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[LWJ]

We don't seem to have a player that can deal with Fredriks. Blackett got skinned by him every time. Stam then tried out Thiago and he couldn't live with him either. I wonder how Obita would have fared against Fulham's speedy wingman?

Not many teams will have someone who can deal with that pace in the Championship! Thankfully his end ball wasn't always the best, otherwise we would have been punished!

[Top Flight]

We don't seem to have a player that can deal with Fredriks. Blackett got skinned by him every time. Stam then tried out Thiago and he couldn't live with him either. I wonder how Obita would have fared against Fulham's speedy wingman?

Not many teams will have someone who can deal with that pace in the Championship! Thankfully his end ball wasn't always the best, otherwise we would have been punished!

And we were lucky that Martin missed an absolute sitter when it was laid on a plate for him following good wingplay by that man Fredriks. A player that we should perhaps try to sign ourselves?

[LWJ]

I hope our fans don't just use Tiago! Tiago! Tiago! as the choice of song for Tiago. It's all well and good, but why do we need to be so simple

[LWJ]

We don't seem to have a player that can deal with Fredriks. Blackett got skinned by him every time. Stam then tried out Thiago and he couldn't live with him either. I wonder how Obita would have fared against Fulham's speedy wingman?

Not many teams will have someone who can deal with that pace in the Championship! Thankfully his end ball wasn't always the best, otherwise we would have been punished!

And we were lucky that Martin missed an absolute sitter when it was laid on a plate for him following good wingplay by that man Fredriks. A player that we should perhaps try to sign ourselves?

You mean the one where he was offside, and signalled offside by the lino? Imagine being that lucky that somebody gained an advantage against the laws of the game, and still missed. How lucky.

[Top Flight]

Not many teams will have someone who can deal with that pace in the Championship! Thankfully his end ball wasn't always the best, otherwise we would have been punished!

And we were lucky that Martin missed an absolute sitter when it was laid on a plate for him following good wingplay by that man Fredriks. A player that we should perhaps try to sign ourselves?

You mean the one where he was offside, and signalled offside by the lino? Imagine being that lucky that somebody gained an advantage against the laws of the game, and still missed. How lucky.

Was that offside? My first reaction at the time was that it was offside. But then I thought the lino had given a goal kick and the keeper was taking what looked like a goal kick. So then I assumed he must have been onside and it would have counted.

Well then I take that back. No such chance was ever legitimately created.

[LWJ]

Was that offside? My first reaction at the time was that it was offside. But then I thought the lino had given a goal kick and the keeper was taking what looked like a goal kick. So then I assumed he must have been onside and it would have counted.

Well then I take that back. No such chance was ever legitimately created.

Yeah it was given by the lino, if it's the one where the ref called it back for not being played out the box before Moore touched it.

Out of interest anyone know why that was? Is it any dead ball for the defending team in their box has to be played outside first? Or had the ref acknowledged the offside but played adv to give a goal kick?

[paultheroyal]

Was that offside? My first reaction at the time was that it was offside. But then I thought the lino had given a goal kick and the keeper was taking what looked like a goal kick. So then I assumed he must have been onside and it would have counted.

Well then I take that back. No such chance was ever legitimately created.

Yeah it was given by the lino, if it's the one where the ref called it back for not being played out the box before Moore touched it.

Out of interest anyone know why that was? Is it any dead ball for the defending team in their box has to be played outside first? Or had the ref acknowledged the offside but played adv to give a goal kick?

Any defending free kick in penalty area must leave penalty area before it's deemed "in play". Retake if not like last night.

[BR0B0T]

Good reads. Interesting to see praise for Williams, who Dellor and Gooding described as out of sorts and off his game.

they were talking about Ady

[BR0B0T]

I hope our fans don't just use Tiago! Tiago! Tiago! as the choice of song for Tiago. It's all well and good, but why do we need to be so simple

Paging Kesmond to the thread

[CountryRoyal]

Also Gunter is the best right back in the championship

Pereira (Forest)
Fredericks (Fulham)
Iorfa (Wolves)
De Laet (Villa)
Bacuna (Villa)
Yedlin (Newcastle)
Jesus Gamez (Newcastle)
Hunt (Wednesday)
Christie (Derby)

When fit you don't think any of these are better than him?

I don't know I'm even humouring you tbh maybe it's because work is slow.

I honestly will rejoice the day Gunter oxf*rd off more than HRK.

[muirinho]

Obvious sub for Blackett last night would have been for Gunter to swap sides, and Watson to come on, rather than playing Ilori out of position

Obvious..

I think he does trust Watson, he's not been involved much in previous systems but has come in and been the obvious 2nd choice fullback. Every time he has played he has oozed class, and looks to be a real prospect. I would imagine Stam is trying to nurture him and not just throw him in the deep end.

Watson needs to play though, he can't gain much experience permanently glued to the bench. After all, Stam was throwing Ilori in the deep-end, out of position. For me, that's the worst thing about drawing Man U so early in the cup, a cup-run would have been a good opportunity to get even sporadic games for Watson. As it is, all he's getting is occasional U23 games.

Stam has played Gunter at RB before, that's why it seemed like a fairly obvious decision to me. Perhaps he thought Ilori's pace would help with Fredericks, but Ilori was so positionally at sea, his pace didn't help.

I like Gunter, and he was good against Derby, but only a one-eyed fanatic would claim he was decent last night. At the final whistle, he just slumped on the ground rather than running to celebrate with the others, he looked knackered. We know he's going to be playing all of Wales internationals during the International "break" and he had less of a break during the summer than most also.
Unless Stam bites the bullet and plays Watson occasionally, we're going to hit a situation where we're hitting the business-end of the season where the only backup for Gunter has really never been tried - so what happens if he effectively gets burn-out? Even giving Watson 15 minute cameos at the end of games would help.

[Silver Fox]

We don't seem to have a player that can deal with Fredriks. Blackett got skinned by him every time. Stam then tried out Thiago and he couldn't live with him either. I wonder how Obita would have fared against Fulham's speedy wingman?

Not many teams will have someone who can deal with that pace in the Championship! Thankfully his end ball wasn't always the best, otherwise we would have been punished!

Or you could say while he got down to the byline fairly regularly we dealt with any crosses he tried to put in really well

[muirinho]

Also Gunter is the best right back in the championship

Pereira (Forest)
Fredericks (Fulham)
Iorfa (Wolves)
De Laet (Villa)
Bacuna (Villa)
Yedlin (Newcastle)
Jesus Gamez (Newcastle)
Hunt (Wednesday)
Christie (Derby)

When fit you don't think any of these are better than him?

I don't know I'm even humouring you tbh maybe it's because work is slow.

I honestly will rejoice the day Gunter oxf*rd off more than HRK.

Ha, I reckon if you were watching most of those week-in week-out you'd be moaning about them in no time. There's a reason (and sometimes multiple reasons) why those players are playing in the Championship.

Gunter is not the best RB in the Championship, but he's decent, mostly reliable, and wants to play here. If we get promoted, then we'll need a better one for the PL, but he's just fine for where we are now.

As an example, Fredericks is very fast, but his end-product is sporadic at best. Last time I checked, he had 3 League assists - you'd expect with the way Fulham play, and the number of goals they score, it would be higher. After all Gunter has a goal and 2 assists - so actually has done more attacking-wise.

[Ian Royal]

Watson wasn't on the bench to bring on iirc.

Jaakkola, Ilori, Evans, Meite, Kermie, Mendes (ROFL), Samuel.

Wasn't it?

I mean he should have been on the bench for Mendes if he was fit. But he wasn't.

[muirinho]

Watson wasn't on the bench to bring on iirc.

Jaakkola, Ilori, Evans, Meite, Kermie, Mendes (ROFL), Samuel.

Wasn't it?

I mean he should have been on the bench for Mendes if he was fit. But he wasn't.

Ah, well that maybe explains that substitution then! Still think though he should be getting some more time off the bench though.

[genome]

Gunter wasn't even the best right back in the game, let alone the league

[Top Flight]

I think Watson definitely should have been on the bench last night. We had four centre forwards on the bench (Mendes, Meite, Samuel and Kermorgant). We didn't need 4 CF's. We couldn't have used 4 CF's. It would have been wiser to have Watson on the bench instead of Mendes for sure.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

We don't seem to have a player that can deal with Fredriks. Blackett got skinned by him every time. Stam then tried out Thiago and he couldn't live with him either. I wonder how Obita would have fared against Fulham's speedy wingman?

Is that a trick question?

Cuz iirc he got skinned mercilessly when they did us 5-0

[royalp-we]

Did anyone else take the A329M home towards Bracknell last night?

I did my usual:

Drive from Whitley -> Wokingham Road -> Winnersh Triangle
Onto the A329M

I then started to see lane closed signs and assumed it was on the slip road or temporary. Turns out it was the whole way up to the M4 exists which forced me back onto the M4 back to Junction 11

So I then had to almost repeat the journey, exact this time go up through Wokingham and onto Bracknell.

I saw on Twitter 2-3 people had done the same as me - anyone here?

Why do you cut through? Why not just get on the M4 Jct11 which takes about 2/3mins to get to Jct10 A329?

[Nameless]

Nightmare from Topflight re the 'missed sitters'

No only was Martin offside for his but when McCleary missed his the lino was already flagging that Beerens was offside when he crossed it, so that one was even less of a missed chance !