Mark Bowen

[Royal_jimmy]

Basically sounds like we could have met the Business Plan if we'd sold Puscas for ~£2m as hoped, Ejaria for a couple million, Joao for about £5m and Moore for a couple.

But once Puscas obviously wasn't going anywhere and nor was Moore, there was zero point in trying any of the others.

Moore must be the most damagingly costly players in our history. Over the last three years he's cost us about £6m in wages, £8m in lost transfer revenue and in that time we've got about half a dozen good performances out of him.

It's basically an entire season’s revenue pissed up the wall on one player.

This. What's worse is we then went and signed Baldock after denying Brighton an accepted bid for Moore

[Royal_jimmy]

I'd like to know who appointed Ince as manager and why

ISTR an article at the time stating that Ince was friends with Dai and Ince came in to do him a favour - hence why when Bowen (the hired football man) went to the owner (who hasn't a fcuking clue how to run a football club and has two folded football clubs as a result aready) stuck by his mate.

Dai is a waste of space!

Let's hope he makes friends with some successful managers then.

If he's mates with Paul Ince I guess that shows what kind of man he is

[RoyalBlue]

I wasn't a great fan of Bowen as manager but I think he's doing a pretty good job in his current position in incredibly difficult circumstances.

Doing well ?
Men's team relegated, Cat one status lost, Women's team most likely relegated as well

I refer back to 'in incredibly difficult circumstances' including the owner clearly ignoring his advice and at the same time still entertaining Kia.

Not sure how he can be blamed for the loss of Cat One status either, given that he only took up his role in May 2022 and the announcement of the loss was made in July 2022 referring to what had happened in 20-21 and 21-22!

[Hound]

They should just hand all football affairs over to him. Trust him to make the decisions

Not that I think he is a footballing genius or anything but best bet at the moment of having a proper strategy, joined up thinking and also someone who knows the game being ultimately responsible for what is on the pitch

[Royal_jimmy]

I wasn't a great fan of Bowen as manager but I think he's doing a pretty good job in his current position in incredibly difficult circumstances.

Doing well ?
Men's team relegated, Cat one status lost, Women's team most likely relegated as well

I refer back to 'in incredibly difficult circumstances' including the owner clearly ignoring his advice and at the same time still entertaining Kia.

Not sure how he can be blamed for the loss of Cat One status either, given that he only took up his role in May 2022 and the announcement of the loss was made in July 2022 referring to what had happened in 20-21 and 21-22!

To be honest I don't blame Bowen for any of this mess we're in. He has only been back at the club for a year. How is that long enough for anything?

[Royal_jimmy]

They should just hand all football affairs over to him. Trust him to make the decisions

Not that I think he is a footballing genius or anything but best bet at the moment of having a proper strategy, joined up thinking and also someone who knows the game being ultimately responsible for what is on the pitch

Bowen isn't perfect, nobody is but he's been in the game for so long and was a part of Blackburn's most recent success when they were in Europe and finishing 6th in the prem. He's worked with some of the most intelligent people in the game so I trust his judgement. He tried getting rid of Moore as manager and is aligned to what the club need to do to get out of the morass we're in.

The best thing Dai did was bring him into the club tbh.

[Orion1871]

I trust Bowen for the most part, but his son being head of sports science does concern me.

I would hope that our medical and fitness department would be given an overhaul given the injuries over the last two or three years. That doesn't seem likely if Bowen Sr is making that decision.

[Snowflake Royal]

How long has Bowen's son been in place? Injuries have been terrible here for years and years.

[RoyalBlue]

I trust Bowen for the most part, but his son being head of sports science does concern me.

I would hope that our medical and fitness department would be given an overhaul given the injuries over the last two or three years. That doesn't seem likely if Bowen Sr is making that decision.

Wow! I didn't realise his son was in that position.

IMO, some very serious questions have to be asked as to the role and effectiveness of the sports science and physio/medical teams over the past year or so. I'm far from convinced that our appalling injury record isn't worse than most other teams, nor that it can simply be put down to 'bad luck'.

[RoyalBlue]

How long has Bowen's son been in place? Injuries have been terrible here for years and years.

I don't think they've ever been as bad as they were over the past year. And even if he was only recruited a year ago, you'd like to think you would see an improvement with the right person in charge.

[Snowflake Royal]

How long has Bowen's son been in place? Injuries have been terrible here for years and years.

I don't think they've ever been as bad as they were over the past year. And even if he was only recruited a year ago, you'd like to think you would see an improvement with the right person in charge.

We were playing the likes of Bristow and Ashcroft at points last season. Laurent was at CB.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

I wouldn't completely blame the club for the injuries for the last 2 years.

Due to the embargo we've had to sign players that no one else wanted, partly due to past fitness records.....look at the likes of Dann, Hutch and Carroll's injury record at previous clubs.

We've been lucky that at least Carroll has stayed reasonably fit.

[Royal_jimmy]

I trust Bowen for the most part, but his son being head of sports science does concern me.

I would hope that our medical and fitness department would be given an overhaul given the injuries over the last two or three years. That doesn't seem likely if Bowen Sr is making that decision.

Wow! I didn't realise his son was in that position.

IMO, some very serious questions have to be asked as to the role and effectiveness of the sports science and physio/medical teams over the past year or so. I'm far from convinced that our appalling injury record isn't worse than most other teams, nor that it can simply be put down to 'bad luck'.

We've had adverse injury problems for years. Not just the past 2 seasons

[Royal_jimmy]

How long has Bowen's son been in place? Injuries have been terrible here for years and years.

I don't think they've ever been as bad as they were over the past year. And even if he was only recruited a year ago, you'd like to think you would see an improvement with the right person in charge.

We were playing the likes of Bristow and Ashcroft at points last season. Laurent was at CB.

Funny enough Bristow had a good season at Tranmere. Could have been a squad player for us if we kept him now

[tidus_mi2]

I trust Bowen for the most part, but his son being head of sports science does concern me.

I would hope that our medical and fitness department would be given an overhaul given the injuries over the last two or three years. That doesn't seem likely if Bowen Sr is making that decision.

I don't think you can blame them for all the injuries, under an embargo we've been going for whatever is available which generally includes injury prone players people don't want to take a risk on.

[Forbury Lion]

I'd like to know who appointed Ince as manager and why

ISTR an article at the time stating that Ince was friends with Dai and Ince came in to do him a favour - hence why when Bowen (the hired football man) went to the owner (who hasn't a fcuking clue how to run a football club and has two folded football clubs as a result aready) stuck by his mate.

Dai is a waste of space!

Where does this idea that Ince and Dai are friends come from ?
Ince lives in Bramhall just south of Manchester and does not speak Chinese, Dai lives in China and does not speak English.
Where did they meet ? How did they strike up this friendship (google translator) ?

Maybe they both have a mutual "friend"?

I have no iKia if that is true or not.

[Rax]

Basically sounds like we could have met the Business Plan if we'd sold Puscas for ~£2m as hoped, Ejaria for a couple million, Joao for about £5m and Moore for a couple.

But once Puscas obviously wasn't going anywhere and nor was Moore, there was zero point in trying any of the others.

Moore must be the most damagingly costly players in our history. Over the last three years he's cost us about £6m in wages, £8m in lost transfer revenue and in that time we've got about half a dozen good performances out of him.

It's basically an entire season’s revenue pissed up the wall on one player.

I will maintain to my dying day that Liam Moore is the biggest parasite this club has ever seen.

[AthleticoSpizz]

No, that was the weasel Anton Zingarevich

The start of the poison that is flowing through Readings veins

[Franchise FC]

Basically sounds like we could have met the Business Plan if we'd sold Puscas for ~£2m as hoped, Ejaria for a couple million, Joao for about £5m and Moore for a couple.

But once Puscas obviously wasn't going anywhere and nor was Moore, there was zero point in trying any of the others.

Moore must be the most damagingly costly players in our history. Over the last three years he's cost us about £6m in wages, £8m in lost transfer revenue and in that time we've got about half a dozen good performances out of him.

It's basically an entire season’s revenue pissed up the wall on one player.

I will maintain to my dying day that Liam Moore is the biggest parasite this club has ever seen.

If your employer, in order to avoid you leaving for a rival company, offered to triple your salary for a fixed term contract, would you ….
- take the money
- sacrifice yourself financially if you became unable to do the job

I rather think the idiot that refused to sell him and then gave him a ludicrous contract is the problem

[Fezza]

Basically sounds like we could have met the Business Plan if we'd sold Puscas for ~£2m as hoped, Ejaria for a couple million, Joao for about £5m and Moore for a couple.

But once Puscas obviously wasn't going anywhere and nor was Moore, there was zero point in trying any of the others.

Moore must be the most damagingly costly players in our history. Over the last three years he's cost us about £6m in wages, £8m in lost transfer revenue and in that time we've got about half a dozen good performances out of him.

It's basically an entire season’s revenue pissed up the wall on one player.

I will maintain to my dying day that Liam Moore is the biggest parasite this club has ever seen.

If your employer, in order to avoid you leaving for a rival company, offered to triple your salary for a fixed term contract, would you ….
- take the money
- sacrifice yourself financially if you became unable to do the job

I rather think the idiot that refused to sell him and then gave him a ludicrous contract is the problem

100% this. It’s not his fault that the chairman refused his move. He was a good captain and did a lot of sterling work in the community. Like McCleary and Gunter, he is someone unnecessarily vilified (largely by the owner) when the club made appalling decisions and tried to use him as a scapegoat.