Jackson Corner No lack of effort just quality we have to except we need a miracle to stay up. There will be more points deducted we will not win any away games this season, we can’t buy anyone and in reality the young players are not all that.
Hound Think sometime tbe problem with football is a goal just changes all perception of how the match went. We had enough chances to score and should have done - Kelv, Azeez, Binden all had decent chances. The keeper made some solid saves for them
Had a goal gone in then it’s a solid performance in which we dominated throughout. If we don’t then it’s Selles to blame
I didn’t think Selles did a lot wrong. My only gripe really was Ballard should have come on sooner - but as mentioned the time when he’d normally be brought on - 50m to 65m was when we looked our most dangerous
Should have won, usual expected failings - Kelv inexperienced, Azeez seemingly unable to get a goal, Ballard small and inexperienced - main reason we didn’t
Oh other thing - set pieces not good enough. Stop the floaty shit, Get Carson or Azeez to hit them in at pace
WestYorksRoyalMillsyWestYorksRoyal I go back to how inexperienced Selles [is]
We know we're in trouble when this is the most convincing defence we can muster up for a manager.
So glad we got someone inexperienced and out of his depth in this situation.
Our choice was between inexperience or a flawed record. Experienced managers with good records don't drop down to L1. No doubt if we'd appointed a manager with recent failure on their CV we'd be ready to sharpen the knives too.
SouthDownsRoyalWestYorksRoyalMillsy
We know we're in trouble when this is the most convincing defence we can muster up for a manager.
So glad we got someone inexperienced and out of his depth in this situation.
Our choice was between inexperience or a flawed record. Experienced managers with good records don't drop down to L1. No doubt if we'd appointed a manager with recent failure on their CV we'd be ready to sharpen the knives too.
Can we please be less negative about Selles
CountryRoyalSouthDownsRoyalWestYorksRoyal Our choice was between inexperience or a flawed record. Experienced managers with good records don't drop down to L1. No doubt if we'd appointed a manager with recent failure on their CV we'd be ready to sharpen the knives too.
Can we please be less negative about Selles
Can you please stfu with your inane dribblings.
Snowflake RoyalMillsy Not getting on Selles’ case here but genuinely feel great parts of our game were despite him rather than because of him I.e. thanks to individual moments of brilliance across the park. Players seemed clueless as a unit.
Bbcrb posed the question what would happen if you just threw those people on the pitch with no system and said “you’re good players, work it out yourself” suggesting they’d probably do better.
Sounds harsh because tbf there’s a lot of man managemen, encouragement, training, motivation etc which I’m sure Selles brings to the party but tbf I can see where the question came from.
I can't remember the last time I went to / watched a game and thought a manager had a plan for us scoring and winning other than hoofing it at a target man, or passing until someone does something amazing.
VisionSnowflake RoyalMillsy Not getting on Selles’ case here but genuinely feel great parts of our game were despite him rather than because of him I.e. thanks to individual moments of brilliance across the park. Players seemed clueless as a unit.
Bbcrb posed the question what would happen if you just threw those people on the pitch with no system and said “you’re good players, work it out yourself” suggesting they’d probably do better.
Sounds harsh because tbf there’s a lot of man managemen, encouragement, training, motivation etc which I’m sure Selles brings to the party but tbf I can see where the question came from.
I can't remember the last time I went to / watched a game and thought a manager had a plan for us scoring and winning other than hoofing it at a target man, or passing until someone does something amazing.
I do see patterns of play developing though. We got into a few really good situations yesterday but the final ball or decision making making wasn't quite there.
It just doesn't happen often enough at the moment but hopefully that will come with experience and a more settled side. On that last point Selles came out after the Exeter 9-0 saying he doesn't look at a first 11 but a whole squad of 25. As much as that might be considered a strength in some ways it also creates issues in terms of continuity.
It's often said in criticism that some managers don't know their best 11 but I'm pretty sure Selles has no idea not just of his best 11 but also which of his squad of 25 are his best option on any given day.
Hate to say it because he's so young and we really shouldn't be relying so much on him but Vickers really does help link things up far better than someone like Azeez. Azeez much like Knibbs look like players who are good at getting into decent positions but don't really help in building up play. That's why I'm hoping Elliott gets an extended run more centrally because (along with Wing) I think he has the capability to dictate play for us in a more positive way.
Royals and Racers Was anything said as why Vickers was missing on Saturday ?
Hound We were pretty reliant on Olise when he was here tbf
Definitely was a miss Saturday. Hopefully back for the next game
tidus_mi2 Hopefully everything clicks soon otherwise will the confidence drop? We play some good stuff at times, and really should have won this game but the decision making seems off at times. Sometimes we just keep passing it around endlessly in the midfield, sometimes we immediately do some low percentage ball to nowhere.
morganb Just curious - what was the formation on Saturday and how many of those players were square pegs in round holes (for example, Bindon the CB playing at RB)?
Then did we have any round pegs available to fill those round holes?
Do we think Selles is going down the same route we've seen from previous managers where he shoehorns players into the team even though there are more suitable ones available to him, or was this an experimental one-off?
YorkshireRoyal99morganb Just curious - what was the formation on Saturday and how many of those players were square pegs in round holes (for example, Bindon the CB playing at RB)?
Then did we have any round pegs available to fill those round holes?
Do we think Selles is going down the same route we've seen from previous managers where he shoehorns players into the team even though there are more suitable ones available to him, or was this an experimental one-off?
I'd say this was a one off until proven otherwise. I have no issues with using players in different positions than what is considered their natural one, as players can adapt and it can work where players perform better/well in a different position.
I think a lot of it comes down to the individual though. It shouldn't be frowned upon to have some players playing outside their best positions, although it also has to be effective for them and the team as well. If it's clearly not working, then obviously it needs to be changed.
Snowflake RoyalYorkshireRoyal99morganb Just curious - what was the formation on Saturday and how many of those players were square pegs in round holes (for example, Bindon the CB playing at RB)?
Then did we have any round pegs available to fill those round holes?
Do we think Selles is going down the same route we've seen from previous managers where he shoehorns players into the team even though there are more suitable ones available to him, or was this an experimental one-off?
I'd say this was a one off until proven otherwise. I have no issues with using players in different positions than what is considered their natural one, as players can adapt and it can work where players perform better/well in a different position.
I think a lot of it comes down to the individual though. It shouldn't be frowned upon to have some players playing outside their best positions, although it also has to be effective for them and the team as well. If it's clearly not working, then obviously it needs to be changed.
Bindon RB was definitely a square peg in a round hole which didn't work. And we had two alternatives on the bench, with another in the full squad.
Azeez doesn't really have a nailed down position, but he started upfront so that's more a roughly carved peg in a round hole.
Rushesha also got brought on a RW which he absolutely isn’t, just because he's a willin lg runner with RB experience.
Sometimes emergencies happen. Some players are utility players who can play in multiple positions. But we really should stick to specialists unless there is a very good reason not to. And there wasn't v Burton.
