Kevin Doyle

[brendywendy]

If (Doyle) gets (20) I'll be stunned.

I thin(k) he'll find it harder next season, Lita will be our top scorer and Doyle will show more of his alround game than his goalscoring.

Will still be a key player for us....

I understand the numbers now, in my defence it was a pretty confusing way to describe it ! When did English go out of fashion !

hark at mystic meg!

have you got any other cast iron predictions, oh farsighted one

I'll bet anyone that he doesn't get 20 goals in any Premiership season in the league!

Doyle still finished in the top 6 premiership scorers, even tough he had the best part of 3 months out injured and not match fit! how can u guys even suggest he is not capable of getting 20 goals a season?????

I will bet my house on this one! next season, our strongest partnership will be kits and doyle with Lita as main substitute, doyle will get us into europe nect season, so long as Sir steve signs a like 4 like replacement for sidwell so the service keeps coming!

Because he isn't capable of getting that many goals. He went six games straight in December, when we had our hardest run of games, without scoring a single goal. That is why he will not score 20 goals in a season for us

so a top class striker cant get 20 in a season, becuase he didnt score for six games in a row?

[nivek elyod]

Right then, let's talk about the bet. What do you want to make it?

First, can I just clarify: it's that Doyle will never score 20 league goals in a year whilst in the Premiership?

Fine with me. Let's keep this within the realms of reality as well, seeing as I have never met you and in theory this bet could run for ten years. Do you wish to put a time limit on it and an amount?

We'll make the limit ten years. The amount is up to you (as long as it's realistic).

[Huntley & Palmer]

Right then, let's talk about the bet. What do you want to make it?

First, can I just clarify: it's that Doyle will never score 20 league goals in a year whilst in the Premiership?

Fine with me. Let's keep this within the realms of reality as well, seeing as I have never met you and in theory this bet could run for ten years. Do you wish to put a time limit on it and an amount?

We'll make the limit ten years. The amount is up to you (as long as it's realistic).

£5? I have no idea of an amount, you could be dead by then

[Huntley & Palmer]

If (Doyle) gets (20) I'll be stunned.

I thin(k) he'll find it harder next season, Lita will be our top scorer and Doyle will show more of his alround game than his goalscoring.

Will still be a key player for us....

I understand the numbers now, in my defence it was a pretty confusing way to describe it ! When did English go out of fashion !

hark at mystic meg!

have you got any other cast iron predictions, oh farsighted one

I'll bet anyone that he doesn't get 20 goals in any Premiership season in the league!

Doyle still finished in the top 6 premiership scorers, even tough he had the best part of 3 months out injured and not match fit! how can u guys even suggest he is not capable of getting 20 goals a season?????

I will bet my house on this one! next season, our strongest partnership will be kits and doyle with Lita as main substitute, doyle will get us into europe nect season, so long as Sir steve signs a like 4 like replacement for sidwell so the service keeps coming!

Because he isn't capable of getting that many goals. He went six games straight in December, when we had our hardest run of games, without scoring a single goal. That is why he will not score 20 goals in a season for us

so a top class striker cant get 20 in a season, becuase he didnt score for six games in a row?

A top class striker can't score 20 goals unless he is consistent over a season, so that means he can't really afford to go six games straight without hitting the back of the net.

[nivek elyod]

Right then, let's talk about the bet. What do you want to make it?

First, can I just clarify: it's that Doyle will never score 20 league goals in a year whilst in the Premiership?

Fine with me. Let's keep this within the realms of reality as well, seeing as I have never met you and in theory this bet could run for ten years. Do you wish to put a time limit on it and an amount?

We'll make the limit ten years. The amount is up to you (as long as it's realistic).

£5? I have no idea of an amount, you could be dead by then

Unlikely - I'm 17.

[brendywendy]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

[Huntley & Palmer]

Right then, let's talk about the bet. What do you want to make it?

First, can I just clarify: it's that Doyle will never score 20 league goals in a year whilst in the Premiership?

Fine with me. Let's keep this within the realms of reality as well, seeing as I have never met you and in theory this bet could run for ten years. Do you wish to put a time limit on it and an amount?

We'll make the limit ten years. The amount is up to you (as long as it's realistic).

£5? I have no idea of an amount, you could be dead by then

Unlikely - I'm 17.

Best keep it to a fiver then, you might have saved up by then

[papereyes]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

but only one or two players actually score 20 + Premiership goals in a season.

Since moving to a 38 game season ...

1995/6 - 3
1996/7 - 2
1997/8 - 0
1998/9 - 0
1999/0 - 3
2000/1 - 1
2001/2 - 4
2002/3 - 4
2003/4 - 3
2004/5 - 2
2005/6 - 2
2006/7 - 1

Most of those came from top clubs. So, unless he moves from Reading, he's a very low chance of doing it and if he moves from us, he has quite a low chance of doing it.

[Huntley & Palmer]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

So you believe that in that one month, he would have scored an extra eight goals? Playing for a team outside the top four having also not scored in six against some of the best teams in the league. Fair enough

[bigmike]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

So you believe that in that one month, he would have scored an extra eight goals? Playing for a team outside the top four having also not scored in six against some of the best teams in the league. Fair enough

Depends on if he was to play against Wet Spam twice that month or not

[Skyline]

£5? I have no idea of an amount, you could be dead by then

Unlikely - I'm 17.

Best be careful then - males are more likely to die between the ages of 17-25 than at any time until they reach something like their 60s.

[brendywendy]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

but only one or two players actually score 20 + Premiership goals in a season.

Since moving to a 38 game season ...

1995/6 - 3
1996/7 - 2
1997/8 - 0
1998/9 - 0
1999/0 - 3
2000/1 - 1
2001/2 - 4
2002/3 - 4
2003/4 - 3
2004/5 - 2
2005/6 - 2
2006/7 - 1

Most of those came from top clubs. So, unless he moves from Reading, he's a very low chance of doing it and if he moves from us, he has quite a low chance of doing it.

i was talking about topflight leagues worldwide, but if you want to restrict it to the prem its fine, although 25 players may be too small a sample to get reliable data from!

and are u just ignoring my point?

i said id wager alot of money that of these 25 players (or less as some will have done it more than once)21(or less) of them will have had a 6 game run with no goals in the ten years preceding their 20 goal haul.

this was in response to someone asserting that anyone who doesnt score for 6 games in a row will never achieve a 20+goal season, ever, then reduced to ten years due to the impossible nature of a bet over an infinite time scale

it may be wrong, but thats my wager, if u can be arsed, prove me wrong

[Behindu]

If (Doyle) gets (20) I'll be stunned.

I thin(k) he'll find it harder next season, Lita will be our top scorer and Doyle will show more of his alround game than his goalscoring.

Will still be a key player for us....

I understand the numbers now, in my defence it was a pretty confusing way to describe it ! When did English go out of fashion !

hark at mystic meg!

have you got any other cast iron predictions, oh farsighted one

Odd response - in what way does me saying I don;t think Doyle will hit 20 goals turn into a 'cast iron prediction' ?

My line of thinking is that Doyle isn't really an out and out goalscorer - he's got a much broader range of skills than that and i think his contribution next season will be at least as much as provider as scorer. Lita is more your poacher, feeding off Doyle / Little et al.
I have no doubt Doyle will have a good year, just not surehe is quite the new Drogba !

Sorry if youfind expression of a view too much to take..

[brendywendy]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

So you believe that in that one month, he would have scored an extra eight goals? Playing for a team outside the top four having also not scored in six against some of the best teams in the league. Fair enough

no thats not what i said at all.

A: he may well have, but thats just conjecture
B: it was never mentioned that he must be at reading for it to count

my main point is that for him to have got well into double figures, after a season with an injury, in his 1st season for a midtable team, says to me that if he was put in the man UTD team he may well get 20 prem goals in one season at some point over the next ten years
despite the fact that he once didnt score for 6 games whilst with us

and im not saying its definate, just worth a wager

[brendywendy]

If (Doyle) gets (20) I'll be stunned.

.

Will still be a key player for us....

I understand the numbers now, in my defence it was a pretty confusing way to describe it ! When did English go out of fashion !

hark at mystic meg!

have you got any other cast iron predictions, oh farsighted one

Odd response - in what way does me saying I don;t think Doyle will hit 20 goals turn into a 'cast iron prediction' ?

My line of thinking is that Doyle isn't really an out and out goalscorer - he's got a much broader range of skills than that and i think his contribution next season will be at least as much as provider as scorer. Lita is more your poacher, feeding off Doyle / Little et al.
I have no doubt Doyle will have a good year, just not surehe is quite the new Drogba !

Sorry if youfind expression of a view too much to take..

so me saying "hark at mystic meg" translates at me not being able to"take"your point?
i wasnt being horrid, i apologise if it upset you.

but actually i was replying to this comment which does have a whiff of mysticmegness about it:
"I thin(k) he'll find it harder next season, Lita will be our top scorer and Doyle will show more of his alround game than his goalscoring"

i understand that you put "I think" at the start, so its just opinion, but your details were quite specific.

[papereyes]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

but only one or two players actually score 20 + Premiership goals in a season.

Since moving to a 38 game season ...

1995/6 - 3
1996/7 - 2
1997/8 - 0
1998/9 - 0
1999/0 - 3
2000/1 - 1
2001/2 - 4
2002/3 - 4
2003/4 - 3
2004/5 - 2
2005/6 - 2
2006/7 - 1

Most of those came from top clubs. So, unless he moves from Reading, he's a very low chance of doing it and if he moves from us, he has quite a low chance of doing it.

i was talking about topflight leagues worldwide, but if you want to restrict it to the prem its fine, although 25 players may be too small a sample to get reliable data from!

and are u just ignoring my point?

i said id wager alot of money that of these 25 players (or less as some will have done it more than once)21(or less) of them will have had a 6 game run with no goals in the ten years preceding their 20 goal haul.

this was in response to someone asserting that anyone who doesnt score for 6 games in a row will never achieve a 20+goal season, ever, then reduced to ten years due to the impossible nature of a bet over an infinite time scale

it may be wrong, but thats my wager, if u can be arsed, prove me wrong

I just chose a post to make that point on - people bang on about a 20 goal a season striker, but its just such a rare occurence.

[brendywendy]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

but only one or two players actually score 20 + Premiership goals in a season.

Since moving to a 38 game season ...

1995/6 - 3
1996/7 - 2
1997/8 - 0
1998/9 - 0
1999/0 - 3
2000/1 - 1
2001/2 - 4
2002/3 - 4
2003/4 - 3
2004/5 - 2
2005/6 - 2
2006/7 - 1

Most of those came from top clubs. So, unless he moves from Reading, he's a very low chance of doing it and if he moves from us, he has quite a low chance of doing it.

i was talking about topflight leagues worldwide, but if you want to restrict it to the prem its fine, although 25 players may be too small a sample to get reliable data from!

and are u just ignoring my point?

i said id wager alot of money that of these 25 players (or less as some will have done it more than once)21(or less) of them will have had a 6 game run with no goals in the ten years preceding their 20 goal haul.

this was in response to someone asserting that anyone who doesnt score for 6 games in a row will never achieve a 20+goal season, ever, then reduced to ten years due to the impossible nature of a bet over an infinite time scale

it may be wrong, but thats my wager, if u can be arsed, prove me wrong

I just chose a post to make that point on - people bang on about a 20 goal a season striker, but its just such a rare occurence.

i agree, its definately rare
demonstrated that m.owen has never scored 20 prem goals in whole career.
i was just being argumentative over the 6 game streak without a goal thing

[Huntley & Palmer]

i cant really be arsed with an hours research into a topic just to prove another nobber wrong but.

i would wager alot of money that at least 85% of players that have scored 20 in a season in a top flight have gone 6 games without a goal in the ten years preceding it.

like i said thats just a hunch
feel free to disprove it

So you believe that in that one month, he would have scored an extra eight goals? Playing for a team outside the top four having also not scored in six against some of the best teams in the league. Fair enough

no thats not what i said at all.

A: he may well have, but thats just conjecture
B: it was never mentioned that he must be at reading for it to count

my main point is that for him to have got well into double figures, after a season with an injury, in his 1st season for a midtable team, says to me that if he was put in the man UTD team he may well get 20 prem goals in one season at some point over the next ten years
despite the fact that he once didnt score for 6 games whilst with us

and im not saying its definate, just worth a wager

Isn't anything we talk about purely opinion? I personally don't think he is good enough for a top four team, if he was to go to Utd at any point in the next four years then he wouldn't play enough to prove he could or couldn't score 20 goals

[brendywendy]

i disagree, but like u said its just an opinion

and thats not what i was arguing about


my point was that going 6 games without a goal definately does not preclude you from ever being able to score 20 prem goals in one season at some point.

and that it seems a pretty decent wager over that timescale,
thats all

[nivek elyod]

Right then, let's talk about the bet. What do you want to make it?

First, can I just clarify: it's that Doyle will never score 20 league goals in a year whilst in the Premiership?

Fine with me. Let's keep this within the realms of reality as well, seeing as I have never met you and in theory this bet could run for ten years. Do you wish to put a time limit on it and an amount?

We'll make the limit ten years. The amount is up to you (as long as it's realistic).

£5? I have no idea of an amount, you could be dead by then

Unlikely - I'm 17.

Best keep it to a fiver then, you might have saved up by then

All right, you're on.