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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by SteveRoyal » 13 Mar 2008 18:52

earleyroyal Purely out of interest...why the crusade against the 'Balding Guy?' Did he run over your dog or something? Even a total moron can see he's a superb manager, admittedly he's not been at his best this season but then give me a shortlist of better alternatives.


You have a good arguement there. 8)
Well done.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Archie's penalty » 13 Mar 2008 18:53

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Your comment about Coppell being quiet just confirms that you are indeed SDR.


What!!!

No I am not SDR, it was mentioned in a previous attack on my fine character that I was as he used to use nicnames and one called The Quiet One was mentioned, I did consider the Quiet Balding Guy, but that didn't have the same ring to it.

One day, SDR whoever he is will come back and post and you will all see that you are so wrong and I'll be doing my victory dance, oh yes. :lol: :twisted: :lol:


Purely out of interest...why the crusade against the 'Balding Guy?' Did he run over your dog or something? Even a total moron can see he's a superb manager, admittedly he's not been at his best this season but then give me a shortlist of better alternatives.


You surely have heard of fishing ER? When I first joined it took me a while to understand the complicated process that it is. Stick around more will follow. I doubt if TV (or SDR) really has an opinion about Coppell. He's doing it to piss people off...

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Xavier Onassis » 13 Mar 2008 18:58

SteveRoyal If i'm honest, i'm reading the article and thinking "This is so goddarned true... finally."

Then i think, he hasn't been learning English for long, maybe the Journalists have twisted his words?

Still. No criticisms, he doesn't sound like he's insulting anyone, just having a whine at the lack of passing done. I agree, passing is the way forwards. :)
Unless you were Marek against City in which case passing was the way to give the opposition possession.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Archie's penalty » 13 Mar 2008 19:00

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SteveRoyal If i'm honest, i'm reading the article and thinking "This is so goddarned true... finally."

Then i think, he hasn't been learning English for long, maybe the Journalists have twisted his words?

Still. No criticisms, he doesn't sound like he's insulting anyone, just having a whine at the lack of passing done. I agree, passing is the way forwards. :)
Unless you were Marek against City in which case passing was the way to give the opposition possession.


He didn't have the best of games (although a lot of people on here made him their MOtM :| ) but he offers a lot to the team and needs to stay in there...

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Thou Voice » 13 Mar 2008 19:02

Archie's penalty I doubt if TV really has an opinion about Coppell. He's doing it to piss people off...


Ok, let's get one thing straight here Mr Penalty...

...an apology.

If my honest opinions on what is wrong with our cherished club, the Balding Guy, the Emperour and Where's Wally as well as several members of the team piss you or anyone else off, then please accept my apology for my own independant thought.

I will not be like a Lemming and blindly follow the trail of people on this board who obviously get a natural high by licking the ego of the Balding Guy with the rough spurs of their tongues.

This board has a interesting litter of people, some of which I would accept into the cherished area if my suggestion for a revenue stream kicks off, others that I would solely be disapointed in, if they were to be near me. But that being said, it is the collective of different people that form a forum like this.

Hell, I am having such a fantastic time here - I may just subscribe. I enjoy chats with some of you and looking at the idiots that have pulled up in their Sunshine Holiday Buses who can only post abuse and one line comments.

This place is wonderful.


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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by SteveRoyal » 13 Mar 2008 19:04

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SteveRoyal If i'm honest, i'm reading the article and thinking "This is so goddarned true... finally."

Then i think, he hasn't been learning English for long, maybe the Journalists have twisted his words?

Still. No criticisms, he doesn't sound like he's insulting anyone, just having a whine at the lack of passing done. I agree, passing is the way forwards. :)
Unless you were Marek against City in which case passing was the way to give the opposition possession.


Considering he's only been with us since January and has been thrown right into our first team, he's doing pretty well.
Sure, his fitness isn't great.
Sure, he gives away possession, but then going long ball does more often.
Sure, he wasn't the most worthy of MOTM, but at least people recognise he's a good player.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by earleyroyal » 13 Mar 2008 19:07

Archie's Penalty - I have heard of fishing but was trying to get an insight into the mind of TV. Why do it? Surely he realises that pissing people off on an internet messageboard is one of the sadder things to waste your life doing.

Actually no he doesn't, I think that solves it 8)

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by Cookie » 13 Mar 2008 19:09

madreadingfan http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3296016,00.html


Another Reading player lapping up media attention, how long before he says he don't give a shit about the FA cup.

I blame the journalists myself!
Leave us alone in our little back-water and concentrate on the "big four" why don't you?

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by Thou Voice » 13 Mar 2008 19:12

earleyroyal Archie's Penalty - I have heard of fishing but was trying to get an insight into the mind of TV. Why do it? Surely he realises that pissing people off on an internet messageboard is one of the sadder things to waste your life doing.

Actually no he doesn't, I think that solves it 8)


Mr Royal, am I pissing you off? :cry:

No - I just ask the questions that need to be asked and say the things that need to be said.

I also welcome you to my home here.


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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by SteveRoyal » 13 Mar 2008 19:14

What's everyone got against TV? :(
I can't see much about his posts that are insulting.
He just dislikes everything about Reading. :)

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Xavier Onassis » 13 Mar 2008 19:29

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SteveRoyal If i'm honest, i'm reading the article and thinking "This is so goddarned true... finally."

Then i think, he hasn't been learning English for long, maybe the Journalists have twisted his words?

Still. No criticisms, he doesn't sound like he's insulting anyone, just having a whine at the lack of passing done. I agree, passing is the way forwards. :)
Unless you were Marek against City in which case passing was the way to give the opposition possession.


He didn't have the best of games (although a lot of people on here made him their MOtM :| ) but he offers a lot to the team and needs to stay in there...
Just trying a clever quip. I'm happy to see him getting a run, but perhaps he shouldn't be yapping about the passing game so soon after a match in which his own passes left so much to be desired.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by From Despair To Where? » 13 Mar 2008 19:38

So let me get this right, the gist of the interview is "i was brought here to instil a short passing game into the mentality of my team mates but as I expected, some are struggling with this at the moment".

Seems to me, he's criticising the footballing culture in this country rather than any particular indivduals, something we have done on here on numerous occasions, and is somewhat in tune with the reasoning behind the management bringing him here in the first place..

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by earleyroyal » 13 Mar 2008 19:47

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earleyroyal Archie's Penalty - I have heard of fishing but was trying to get an insight into the mind of TV. Why do it? Surely he realises that pissing people off on an internet messageboard is one of the sadder things to waste your life doing.

Actually no he doesn't, I think that solves it 8)


Mr Royal, am I pissing you off? :cry:

No - I just ask the questions that need to be asked and say the things that need to be said.

I also welcome you to my home here.


No, I'm genuinely interested as to why you come out with this stuff - do you really believe it? You have an opinion and a right to say what you want, and your fishing is more funny than irritating, so no complaints from me.


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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Archie's penalty » 13 Mar 2008 20:03

Thou Voice
Archie's penalty I doubt if TV really has an opinion about Coppell. He's doing it to piss people off...


Ok, let's get one thing straight here Mr Penalty...

...an apology.

If my honest opinions on what is wrong with our cherished club, the Balding Guy, the Emperour and Where's Wally as well as several members of the team piss you or anyone else off, then please accept my apology for my own independant thought.

I will not be like a Lemming and blindly follow the trail of people on this board who obviously get a natural high by licking the ego of the Balding Guy with the rough spurs of their tongues.

This board has a interesting litter of people, some of which I would accept into the cherished area if my suggestion for a revenue stream kicks off, others that I would solely be disapointed in, if they were to be near me. But that being said, it is the collective of different people that form a forum like this.

Hell, I am having such a fantastic time here - I may just subscribe. I enjoy chats with some of you and looking at the idiots that have pulled up in their Sunshine Holiday Buses who can only post abuse and one line comments.

This place is wonderful.


Whilst you speak an awful lot of crap I respect your right to say said crap. Interested to know if you are Dodger though!

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Archie's penalty » 13 Mar 2008 20:04

earleyroyal Archie's Penalty - I have heard of fishing but was trying to get an insight into the mind of TV. Why do it? Surely he realises that pissing people off on an internet messageboard is one of the sadder things to waste your life doing.

Actually no he doesn't, I think that solves it 8)


Well being on here is kinda sad in the first place I guess...

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Richi Royal » 13 Mar 2008 20:11

There are two ways at looking at players in the mould (IMO) of matejovsky. He is what i would describe as a creative link and a passing player.

Creative player like him when they get the ball suprisingly want to create and will risk the more risky pass. Similar player IMO include Alonso, Fabregas, Koumas, Arteta, Huddlestone, Song, Carrick etc, and although there are all slightly different players the play similar roles in their teams. Recently Reading have been deprived of players in this mould with many suggesting since Simon Osborn so we are not used to the style of play.
The truth is (except the exceptional players i.e. Fabregas, who are amoungst the best in the world) alot of the ambitious passes often end up at the feet of the opposition, however when we watch it on MOTD all we see are the highlights, i.e. the passes which are sucessful and create chances, what you dont see are all the other unsucessful passes. It is not just passing players think how often this season Ronaldo, lampard, and gerrard have instead of passing the ball had a shot from 25-30 yards which have gone 20 yards over the bar, for every shot Ronaldo puts into the top corner he has 4-5 wild shots. The fans accept this and know with his next ball he could put it in the top corner.
Mateojovsky is no worse at passing than most of the players that are listed above, the difference is what we are used to seeing is 'simple football' where we try to kepp the ball, play it down the wing and deliever the crosses. Or we are used to see the '100% pass sucess' we see on match of the day which masks all the rubbish passes. The teams which have these players are more excepting of poor passes because they know one of them will be sucessful and create a golden chance. I personally have been suprised (with the exception of the top teams) becuase i came into the premiership expecting these world beater we see on match of the day, but the truth is only a small percent of the things players try actually come off. Also in midfiled the players listed above are covered by players who will sit back and do the dirty work, likes of carsley at everton, Flamini at arsenal, Reo coker at villa etc.

This is where the difference of opinion arises, you can look at Matejovsky in two ways
1)A creative player who tries to make things happen at every oppertunity, these people are more accepting of bad passes becuase they know at any point he could split the defence with a through ball
2) a player who gives the ball far to frequently and cheaply, wasteing possession

I personally am in camp 1, i feel there is a buzz in the stadium whenever he gets the ball and could change the game at any point, i will allow him to give the ball away becuase i know he is capable with his next ball of splitting the defence. In the last game although he gave the ball away he also created two chances off the top of my head with the short free kick as discussed earlier and when he put doyle through who thenhit the side netting.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by starbug » 13 Mar 2008 20:36

I'm really glad to hear these comments, cant stand the feeling of players just turning up for the money and a good life he really seems to care. Its also exactly the directon I want us to go in, we need a solid player in the centre to hold and control games so lets hope his attitude rubs off on everyone else.

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by Archie's penalty » 13 Mar 2008 20:40

Richi Royal There are two ways at looking at players in the mould (IMO) of matejovsky. He is what i would describe as a creative link and a passing player.

Creative player like him when they get the ball suprisingly want to create and will risk the more risky pass. Similar player IMO include Alonso, Fabregas, Koumas, Arteta, Huddlestone, Song, Carrick etc, and although there are all slightly different players the play similar roles in their teams. Recently Reading have been deprived of players in this mould with many suggesting since Simon Osborn so we are not used to the style of play.
The truth is (except the exceptional players i.e. Fabregas, who are amoungst the best in the world) alot of the ambitious passes often end up at the feet of the opposition, however when we watch it on MOTD all we see are the highlights, i.e. the passes which are sucessful and create chances, what you dont see are all the other unsucessful passes. It is not just passing players think how often this season Ronaldo, lampard, and gerrard have instead of passing the ball had a shot from 25-30 yards which have gone 20 yards over the bar, for every shot Ronaldo puts into the top corner he has 4-5 wild shots. The fans accept this and know with his next ball he could put it in the top corner.
Mateojovsky is no worse at passing than most of the players that are listed above, the difference is what we are used to seeing is 'simple football' where we try to kepp the ball, play it down the wing and deliever the crosses. Or we are used to see the '100% pass sucess' we see on match of the day which masks all the rubbish passes. The teams which have these players are more excepting of poor passes because they know one of them will be sucessful and create a golden chance. I personally have been suprised (with the exception of the top teams) becuase i came into the premiership expecting these world beater we see on match of the day, but the truth is only a small percent of the things players try actually come off. Also in midfiled the players listed above are covered by players who will sit back and do the dirty work, likes of carsley at everton, Flamini at arsenal, Reo coker at villa etc.

This is where the difference of opinion arises, you can look at Matejovsky in two ways
1)A creative player who tries to make things happen at every oppertunity, these people are more accepting of bad passes becuase they know at any point he could split the defence with a through ball
2) a player who gives the ball far to frequently and cheaply, wasteing possession

I personally am in camp 1, i feel there is a buzz in the stadium whenever he gets the ball and could change the game at any point, i will allow him to give the ball away becuase i know he is capable with his next ball of splitting the defence. In the last game although he gave the ball away he also created two chances off the top of my head with the short free kick as discussed earlier and when he put doyle through who thenhit the side netting.


An insightful post RR. You talk about two camps. I fall into the first one i.e am accepting of bad passes if some of them come off. Despite this it is always a risk having a player like him in a team such as ours who are fighting to avoid relegation. Sure the passes that come off might get us goals but the passes that don't might make us let goals in.

I still want MM to be playing though...

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by Mad Dog's Ghost » 13 Mar 2008 20:41

Matejovsky is spot on with one observation. Shorey is, in little's absence, the most comfortable player on the ball at Reading by a country mile.

We'll miss him when he goes.

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Re: Matejovsky slams selfish strikers

by The 17 Bus » 13 Mar 2008 20:47

Majet is the start of a new team at RFC IMHO, same as Fae and Cisse, things will have to change soon, and SC knows this, to move up to the next stage we need to actually play football, and Majet looks like he can. I can see a big clear out this summer, we have too many players on the books, about a dozen out on loan, this must hit the budget hard.

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