Percentage of Transfer Market

[PEARCEY]

July and August has always been the time for transfer activity.

So tomorrow is the start......................

........of the exodus.

[Arch]

Scanned the Beeb Championship headlines to day and not a single move of interest to us in sight. Forest get a guy who's played the last four years in the French 2nd div, Swansea add to their collection of unknown Spaniards, a handful of sideways moves by players surplus to requirements at their clubs.

Question: if June is the time to be pro-active and all those teams more savvy than us in the transfer market are supposed to be stripping us of our best assets, why has only an injured, out-of-contract 32-year-old left so far?

[working class hero]

Scanned the Beeb Championship headlines to day and not a single move of interest to us in sight. Forest get a guy who's played the last four years in the French 2nd div, Swansea add to their collection of unknown Spaniards, a handful of sideways moves by players surplus to requirements at their clubs.

Question: if June is the time to be pro-active and all those teams more savvy than us in the transfer market are supposed to be stripping us of our best assets, why has only an injured, out-of-contract 32-year-old left so far?

Because the window opens tomorrow?

[Arch]

Scanned the Beeb Championship headlines to day and not a single move of interest to us in sight. Forest get a guy who's played the last four years in the French 2nd div, Swansea add to their collection of unknown Spaniards, a handful of sideways moves by players surplus to requirements at their clubs.

Question: if June is the time to be pro-active and all those teams more savvy than us in the transfer market are supposed to be stripping us of our best assets, why has only an injured, out-of-contract 32-year-old left so far?

Because the window opens tomorrow?

One of us is missing something. Could be me.

[Roger the Rabbit]

Whilst it may not be a window I think many player contracts run to the end of June so effectively anyone out of contract becomes a free agent on July 1st. Little may technically not be a Pompey player till tomorrow - not sure !

I can;t see how July 1st can be any sort of 'window' though as the window relates to playing players, not signing them so as soon as the last game has been played the window is effectively open, as we've seen by a number of moves taking place.

[Dirk Gently]

The significance of tomorrow is that it's the start of the football "year" - standard players' contracts all run from 1st July to 30th June, and so from tomorrow all the players who are released are officially free agents.

Having said that, if a player is not going to be offered a new contract or has declined one, the rules do allow clubs to approach those players without seeking specific permission of the club they are contracted to - they've been able to do that for 6 -8 weeks or so.

All other players who have on-going contracts cannot officially be approached by any club - the contact must be through the club to whom they are contracted. (*)

The other significance of the date is that as it's the start of the season financially, clubs now have money free - all the released players are no longer on the payroll and so new players can be taken on without breaking the budget or cashflow.

(*)this does not, of course, apply to anyone called Trevor Brooking.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Dirk is spot on of course.

There isn't a whole lot of deals finalised before the 1st July, but there have a beena few interesting signings already.

I think the original point was more that we haven't heard any news on who we might be sniffing around apart from Bodde and Watson.

[Roger the Rabbit]

Dirk is spot on of course.

There isn't a whole lot of deals finalised before the 1st July, but there have a beena few interesting signings already.

I think the original point was more that we haven't heard any news on who we might be sniffing around apart from Bodde and Watson.

And the guy from Dagenham, and the Colchester keeper, and Clinton Morrison, and the guy from Luton ( Bell)

[brendywendy]

Whilst it may not be a window I think many player contracts run to the end of June so effectively anyone out of contract becomes a free agent on July 1st. Little may technically not be a Pompey player till tomorrow - not sure !

I can;t see how July 1st can be any sort of 'window' though as the window relates to playing players, not signing them so as soon as the last game has been played the window is effectively open, as we've seen by a number of moves taking place.

window officially opens today-end of

[Roger the Rabbit]

Whilst it may not be a window I think many player contracts run to the end of June so effectively anyone out of contract becomes a free agent on July 1st. Little may technically not be a Pompey player till tomorrow - not sure !

I can;t see how July 1st can be any sort of 'window' though as the window relates to playing players, not signing them so as soon as the last game has been played the window is effectively open, as we've seen by a number of moves taking place.

window officially opens today-end of

FIFA rules say different, but not sure whether 'FIFA' outranks 'officially' !!
It's just a technical issue though, people have been signing players before today so clearly they've found a way round it if today is the first day !!

[Wycombe Royal]

Whilst it may not be a window I think many player contracts run to the end of June so effectively anyone out of contract becomes a free agent on July 1st. Little may technically not be a Pompey player till tomorrow - not sure !

I can;t see how July 1st can be any sort of 'window' though as the window relates to playing players, not signing them so as soon as the last game has been played the window is effectively open, as we've seen by a number of moves taking place.

window officially opens today-end of

FIFA rules say different, but not sure whether 'FIFA' outranks 'officially' !!
It's just a technical issue though, people have been signing players before today so clearly they've found a way round it if today is the first day !!

You can sign players whenever you want but they can't officially join your club until the window opens - which is today.

[brendywendy]

if its not today i want to know why all the radio stations have been spouting total rubbish

[Southbank Old Boy]

You can sign a player whenever you like, window open or not.

You can't actually play them until after the next transfer window opens though, so there is little point.

[working class hero]

As I stated the window opens today....

There is no point in signing players for a fee earlier than this because you will be laying out cash on a player whom you cannot register until the window opens, and will be paying out wages for nowt.
Assuming a £2 million fee signing a player would cost over £2300 in lost interest and wages of about £40,000 for every fortnight before July 1.

Players like Little are snapped up as they are free....

All seems fairly easy to get to grips with [unless of course I am talking bolleaux]!

That is why we must now prepare to see the floodgates opening and messrs. Shorey / Hunt / Harper / Sonko / Lita / Doyle and Kitson disappearing back to the League they weren't good enough to keep us in....

Unless we buy some quality I think we need to be ready for another season of struggle. Is it a coincidence that Clubs all close their ST renewals shortly before letting all their players leave? Would we have sold 11,762 tickets had Mr M announced that we were going to lose at least 8 members of the first team?? [and that is if the likes of Marek and Bikey are not poached too!]

[Southbank Old Boy]

Why sign a player at anytime between now and the start of the season then? By that logic it would be a waste of wages etc.

The window has nothing to do with it as players who are signed now won't play until the start of the season anyway.

It's all down to the contracts running out and staff being away on holiday etc as Dirk stated earlier.

[Roger the Rabbit]

As I stated the window opens today....!

I guess we could go round and round for ever on this one ! Still not sure how clubs have been signing players in June if the window is shut, or why FIFA state that the window runs from the end of the previous season to a date no longer than 12 weeks later !!

There is no point in signing players for a fee earlier than this because you will be laying out cash on a player whom you cannot register until the window opens, and will be paying out wages for nowt.
Assuming a £2 million fee signing a player would cost over £2300 in lost interest and wages of about £40,000 for every fortnight before July 1.!

I guess the fairly major reason for doing it is a very basic one that once you have signed the player no one else can !
To pay a premium of a few thousand to secure that key player seems money well spent....

[brendywendy]

As I stated the window opens today....

There is no point in signing players for a fee earlier than this because you will be laying out cash on a player whom you cannot register until the window opens, and will be paying out wages for nowt.
Assuming a £2 million fee signing a player would cost over £2300 in lost interest and wages of about £40,000 for every fortnight before July 1.

Players like Little are snapped up as they are free....

All seems fairly easy to get to grips with [unless of course I am talking bolleaux]!

That is why we must now prepare to see the floodgates opening and messrs. Shorey / Hunt / Harper / Sonko / Lita / Doyle and Kitson disappearing back to the League they weren't good enough to keep us in....

Unless we buy some quality I think we need to be ready for another season of struggle. Is it a coincidence that Clubs all close their ST renewals shortly before letting all their players leave? Would we have sold 11,762 tickets had Mr M announced that we were going to lose at least 8 members of the first team?? [and that is if the likes of Marek and Bikey are not poached too!]

i think the club have been more than open about players leaving

numerous statements about it

anyone renewing on the basis that we would be keeping all of our squad, and adding more is orf their eds

im going with 5 live and talk sports who all say it opens today-dunno why theyd make it all up

[Southbank Old Boy]

im going with 5 live and talk sports who all say it opens today-dunno why theyd make it all up

Officially it might do, but in reality it's just a paper chasing exercise.

If there are no games to be played in what difference does it make if the window is open or closed?

[Sarah Star]

I was expecting loads of transfer action today, but it's been quite quiet and a bit boring really.

[Roger the Rabbit]

Wording of the FA and FIFA rules :

' This is now only allowed within 2 transfer windows in a year. From the end of a League's season up to the 31st August and for the month of January.'

Which leaves the question of when the season technically ends ! I'm quite open to 30/6 being the official end of the season but would remain confused as to how there have been 150 transfers which have taken place during a closed period, although that is explained by the previously stated fact that windows never stop clubs signing players, only registering / playing them !!

A classic pedants delight this, given the complete lack of any real practical importance concerning the answer...