Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Whistle » 12 Aug 2009 11:56

I think Henry is being 're-positioned' as he's not going to get in as a RW now.

Mooney and Bignall better than expected, Siggi's goal top drawer. Last 10 minutes utterly boring and an insult to those who had bothered to turn up. Surprised Antonio didn't get a run out.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by I was there at Elm Park » 12 Aug 2009 14:50

Whistle Last 10 minutes utterly boring and an insult to those who had bothered to turn up. Surprised Antonio didn't get a run out.


To be fair we were winning 5-1 and have a much more important game on Saturday so you can hardly expect the players to bust a gut for no reason. I do agree about Antonio but I guess Rodgers wanted all the players to get the full 90 minutes.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Arch » 12 Aug 2009 14:52

Isaac Hunt I thought Marek & Stretch were borderline poor, given what they're both capable of.

Both over 20. Get rid quick.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Woodcote Royal » 12 Aug 2009 15:50

Alan Partridge First look at Bignall and importantly for Rodgers and Reading he's got the raw attributes to play up front on his own, which instantly makes him different to our current forwards. His first touch was good, he's lightning quick and on the day he finished well. Almost scored a hattrick when he brought a long ball down and in one movement swivelled and shot and Poole made an excellent save to his right. Only Burton but Bignall did all required and more.


Totally agree, which is why I don't understand claims by others that his technique was suspect.

Yep, it was only Burton but he was definately too good for their back four.

As for the match, I left just as convinced as when I arrived that all those who had been missing from Saturdays line up were left out by choice and not through lack of fitness, with only Bignall deemed not fit to play a full 90 minutes just 3 days later and Dean Austin offering nothing in his post match interview to contradict that view.

It struck me, too, that, if Mick McCarthy turned up to take another look at James Harper (and as much he's been very loyal servant to RFC) I can't believe he went home with Harps still at the top of his shopping list given the impressive display of future talent on view.

In fact, it was suggested to me that he might have been most impressed by Bignall.

I would have gone for Sigurdsson who, I agree, had a very impressive night even without the long range shot that surpassed anything we saw in the whole of last season.

Just how big was Steve Coppell's mattress that he was able to hide so many talented young players whilst his stuttering favorites dished up such utter sh*te in the last half of last season :evil:

Once again, I'm forced to agree with Rother :P All the current evidence points towards spending more money on the academy and off loading those for whom money and success appears to have cost them the edge they had when ambition stilled raged from within.

This really is a new era and some of our fans are in for a culture shock.

We have a whole squad of young players who are clearly ready to be bloodied in the Championship and it would be nothing short of madness to spend money denying them this opportunity just because others have chosen to pay us millions for players who failed to deliver in recent times.

I'm sure a new striker (and possibly a new right back if Liam doesn't shape up :| ) will be on the way but that's all we need until someone from this impressive bunch shows that they are not up to the job.

Thank you, Brendan Rodgers, for more making watching my team the highlight of the week it always used to be.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Wycombe Royal » 12 Aug 2009 15:53

Woodcote Royal (and possibly a new right back if Liam doesn't shape up :| )

Julian Kelly will probably get his chance there........


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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Thomas L'Heureux » 12 Aug 2009 16:03

Woodcote Royal It struck me, too, that, if Mick McCarthy turned up to take another look at James Harper (and as much he's been very loyal servant to RFC) I can't believe he went home with Harps still at the top of his shopping list given the impressive display of future talent on view.

In fact, it was suggested to me that he might have been most impressed by Bignall.

I would have gone for Sigurdsson who, I agree, had a very impressive night even without the long range shot that surpassed anything we saw in the whole of last season.


The fact that Mick's in the market for a midfielder with top flight experience probably suggests why...

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Woodcote Royal » 12 Aug 2009 16:18

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Woodcote Royal It struck me, too, that, if Mick McCarthy turned up to take another look at James Harper (and as much he's been very loyal servant to RFC) I can't believe he went home with Harps still at the top of his shopping list given the impressive display of future talent on view.

In fact, it was suggested to me that he might have been most impressed by Bignall.


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The fact that Mick's irdsson whoet for a midfielder with top flight experience probably suggests why...


And I'm saying there's no way on last nights evidence that McCarthy would have come away feeling Harper was what he was looking for regardless of previous experience.................he was largely anonymous against what had been a non league side last season whilst their were a number of youngsters who really impressed.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Thaumagurist* » 12 Aug 2009 16:26

Woodcote Royal Just how big was Steve Coppell's mattress that he was able to hide so many talented young players whilst his stuttering favorites dished up such utter sh*te in the last half of last season :evil:


That just makes me laugh. :lol: I like the way you phrased that.

While I applaud Rodgers' decisions to blood several of the youngsters, might I remind you that Coppell was under more pressure, than Rodgers was, to deliver an immediate return to the Premiership. He might have thought that some were not quite ready (You realise that last year they were 1 year younger?), but still managed to give debuts to Pearce, Karacan and Church.

The start of the season is probably the best time to give a few youngsters a chance, or at the end of a season when there's nothing to play for. And minor cups.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Thomas L'Heureux » 12 Aug 2009 16:28

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Woodcote Royal It struck me, too, that, if Mick McCarthy turned up to take another look at James Harper (and as much he's been very loyal servant to RFC) I can't believe he went home with Harps still at the top of his shopping list given the impressive display of future talent on view.

In fact, it was suggested to me that he might have been most impressed by Bignall.


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The fact that Mick's irdsson whoet for a midfielder with top flight experience probably suggests why...


And I'm saying there's no way on last nights evidence that McCarthy would have come away feeling Harper was what he was looking for regardless of previous experience.................he was largely anonymous against what had been a non league side last season whilst their were a number of youngsters who really impressed.

HTH


I don't think Harper played particularly well either. But apart from Marek, he was the only midfielder on display with Premiership experience, which is what Mick is looking for.

He would have been impressed with both Bignall and Gylfi, no doubt, but neither of them have top flight experience and one isn't even a midfielder.

If you go shopping for a loaf of bread because you intend to make a sandwich with it, do you instead buy yourself a cream cake to put either side of your ham, cheese, and pickle, just because it looks more appetising at the time?

HTH.


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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Woodcote Royal » 12 Aug 2009 16:52

If you turn up to look at a former Premiership midfielder and he fails to shine amongst a bunch of youngsters playing a team that had one league game under it's belt in their entire history, how impressed would you be?

Might you have been more impressed with a number of young players on view? This isn't rocket science, is it :|

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Stranded » 12 Aug 2009 17:02

Woodcote Royal If you turn up to look at a former Premiership midfielder and he fails to shine amongst a bunch of youngsters playing a team that had one league game under it's belt in their entire history, how impressed would you be?

Might you have been more impressed with a number of young players on view? This isn't rocket science, is it :|


No it's not but at the same time I doubt MM would base any decision to move solely on last nights game - particularly when said match was over as a contest after 9 minutes.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Woodcote Royal » 12 Aug 2009 17:10

I don't disagree. I was only alluding to any impression Mick McCarthy might have taken away with him from last nights events.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 12 Aug 2009 17:14

The impressiveness of youngsters will be a tick in his book to keep an eye on them, no more.

Still we have Gunnarsson and Bikey so we will be ok, till they fall out of your favour as well WR.

After two games it seems we have Woodcotes goal of the Season already, though there are a few from last season that are easily as good, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uej7zGNQB9g tho i guess you was at home after deciding not to bother going after hearing the team.


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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by chilipepper91 » 12 Aug 2009 17:16

+ Mills' distribution. When Rodgers said he liked ball-playing CBs, he's found one with Mills. Confidently hit 40-yard passes straight to his man. It was long ball, sure, but it reached his man 90% of the time.

+ Harper. Had a pretty good sweeping game.Think I even saw a few forward passes!

+ Sigurdsson. Bossed the midfield, and need I say more about the 35 yard goal?

+ Mooney. Lively, deserved his goals, could be a good player for us finally!

- Rosenior. One dimensional as usual, and really not good enough for the system.

- Armstrong. Maybe being dropped has got to him, but he looked a shadow of the Player of the Season.

- Matejovsky. Some sublime passes, but still can't tackle or run.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Woodcote Royal » 12 Aug 2009 17:35

Harpers So Solid Crew The impressiveness of youngsters will be a tick in his book to keep an eye on them, no more.

Still we have Gunnarsson and Bikey so we will be ok, till they fall out of your favour as well WR.

After two games it seems we have Woodcotes goal of the Season already, though there are a few from last season that are easily as good, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uej7zGNQB9g tho i guess you was at home after deciding not to bother going after hearing the team.


Nope, lost me there. Didn't see one goal in those 8 minutes that competed with last nights 35 yard pile driver.......................which didn't surprise having already seen all of last seasons goals and not remembering one that came close, although I enjoyed Noel Hunt's free kick.

It has nothing to do with who I "fall out" with and everything to do with who BR is putting in his team.....................and I only see him favouring younger players.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by juanpablo » 12 Aug 2009 17:55

glad some people are finally seeing the light regards Henry, at the end of the day Kebe would have been dancing round Burton at will....

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Ian Royal » 12 Aug 2009 18:26

Interesting to see the radio seems to have given a very accurate reflection of the majority of players contributions. Most notably Rosenior's, mentioned about 6 times I can remember, 1 good, 2 mediocre and 3 awful.

Good defender, too prone to errors, losses of discipline or sloppiness and just not very good at passing or crossing.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Platypuss » 12 Aug 2009 18:57

juanpablo glad some people are finally seeing the light regards Henry, at the end of the day Kebe would have been dancing round Burton at will....


But where would the ball have been?

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Cookie » 12 Aug 2009 19:16

Burton Albion manager Paul Peschisolido told BBC Radio Derby
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_cup/8187631.stm

There's an audio stream embedded in this BBC page, with some very nice things said about our club.

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Re: Gone for a Burton, Back from the game thread

by Forbury Lion » 12 Aug 2009 19:30

Harpers So Solid Crew team came out to the flag waving nonsense, how embarrassing is that.
Extremely embarassing, especially at the Forest game where the Forest mascots were waving Reading flags..... I hope they didn't get any abuse for that from their friends and famillies.

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