now i care

[wolsey]

but he is going to be insufferable if/when we put a run together. He's bad enough we we play well and lose.

Are you refering to Royalee or Rodgers?

[Gordons Cumming]

If we wanted a 'likeable' manager we could have appointed Cheryl Cole,

[Ferris]

but he is going to be insufferable if/when we put a run together. He's bad enough we we play well and lose.

Are you refering to Royalee or Rodgers?

Nice

[Sun Tzu]

I just can't stand his manager-speak. I like his arrogance - or self-confidence if you will - but he is going to be insufferable if/when we put a run together. He's bad enough we we play well and lose.

No one will care. It's all a sideshow anyway and if you don't like it don;t rush back to the cara fter kick off and listen tot he rubbish on local radio !
Manager interviews are 99% rubbish so why worry what is said.

[Terminal Boardom]

I like arrogance if I can see something behind it, which I can in this instance.

I think he has a way to go yet. He's not done anything that to me marks him out as a tactical genius. He's heading the right way and he's still well within realistic timeframes but I'd mark him quite hard - no higher than 4/10 still in terms of what he's done although I'm very open to that jumping very quickly if it turns out that he's being laying solid foundations and is now ready to actually start on proper contruction.

He has a hell of a long way to go. It is one thing being Jose Mourinho who won the Chapions League with Porto and won a few things with Chelski. What has BR achieved? Sweet FA. I would be so much happier if he shut the feck up and spent more time concentrating on creating a successful team rather than talking bollox about "World Class Models"

There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. I like to see an element of arrogance but it needs to be earnt or justified. Personally, I think he is a classless gobshite!

[CMRoyal]

but he is going to be insufferable if/when we put a run together. He's bad enough we we play well and lose.

Are you refering to Royalee or Rodgers?

[Sun Tzu]

I would be so much happier if he shut the feck up and spent more time concentrating on creating a successful team rather than talking bollox about "World Class Models"

That's impossible though. Managers are contractually obliged to do post match and pre match press conferences. If we had a manager who said 'I'm not doing any interviews' he would get slated.
I much prefer the Coppell style, dry, knowing etc but fans getting wound up because they don't think their manager gives good interviews is on a par with fans getting wound up because the players they insult on the pitch have a little dig back.

But as a general rule, managers should let their team do the talking !

[Terminal Boardom]

I would be so much happier if he shut the feck up and spent more time concentrating on creating a successful team rather than talking bollox about "World Class Models"

That's impossible though. Managers are contractually obliged to do post match and pre match press conferences. If we had a manager who said 'I'm not doing any interviews' he would get slated.
I much prefer the Coppell style, dry, knowing etc but fans getting wound up because they don't think their manager gives good interviews is on a par with fans getting wound up because the players they insult on the pitch have a little dig back.

But as a general rule, managers should let their team do the talking !

Once again, it is the great God Murdoch to blame for this irrational desire for soundbite and spin. Give me someone of the class of Coppell any day of the week. Does not go over the top when we win or lose. Keeps a calm exterior on everything.

BR's problem is that he has to keep proving to all and sundry how good he believes he is.

[brendywendy]

I've cared all along which is why i want the idiot manager out so we're not playing League 1 football next season.

maybe ive not got my point across, but its not so much about caring for the club/its position in the league, thats a given

i now care just as much about the manager and players we have here at the minute

i understand totally if others dont feel the same way, but i really really want this lot to turn things round,and build something we can all be proud of again.

[brendywendy]

Sun Tzu - perhaps with regards to likeability I should explain myself a little better; I have found precious little to like about his tactics which have mainly been unsuited to the personnel we have (4-4-2 diamond without any width? Give me strength), his constant chopping-and-changing of the team and his choices with regards to substitutions (which I thought against Leicester were very poor).

The Opinion that he comes across as arrogant, insincere and full of spin to the media is - I quite agree - irrelevant to whether he can do his job properly, but when he is going through a bad spell it hardly endears him to the supporters.

ammended

[brendywendy]

I just can't stand his manager-speak. I like his arrogance - or self-confidence if you will - but he is going to be insufferable if/when we put a run together. He's bad enough we we play well and lose.

i think that is purely aimed at keeping the club, its players, and its supporters optimistic-he has no choice there IMO
i predict, if we go on a run, hell become more circumspect, and try hard to keep the players feet on the ground.
which would be just good management.

coming out and saying, well we are shit, ithe players are shit,im not very good either, put up with it, it ll be this way for ages, isnt going to get great reaction either

[Dirk Gently]

No-one should have any doubts - the best possible solution is for BR to be successful here, and that's what I'm hoping for while I still believe it's possible.

Others may think we're past that point already, but I think QPR was the nadir and things are now on the way back up. BR's learning to shut up a little bit and does seem to be learning other things as well - like how to be pragmatic in this league, and how to make the plan fit the available resources and not the other way round.

Changing managers would not only be expensive and painful for the club, it'd also set the squad back a bit - we'd then almost need another(!) pre-season. It'd ultimately be as much of a gamble as it was appointing BR in the first place - unless someone else can *guarantee* success with someone else then it's counter-productive, unless things have got too far beyond redemption - which is a point I don't think they've reached.

[brendywendy]

the voice of reason as ever

[winchester_royal]

It's taken a while for us to feel 'one' with the club again, and the turning point was probably half way through the first half against Leicester. We could all see the players agonising over each missed opportunity, and understood that they want to succeed as much as we do.

No-one is suggesting we're definitely heading into a winning patch, but a lot of fans feel as if we're moving forward together, which is nice.

[Rex]

This is the connection we need. The supporters needed to see signs the players care, are affected and are involved with the supporters. The other issue was the initial detatchment felt by the support for the piss poor displays and only a couple of familiar faces within the starting 11. We just now need to start getting behind this team in a positive manner and hopefully the team can settle down into what could be classed as a positive run of results or positive play.
My enthusiasm is starting to come back at last.

[Terminal Boardom]

But how fragile is this new found enthusiasm?

I know as well as anyone that a misplaced pass here, a woeful piece of control there and a comedy of errors leading to another goal conceded will lead to hostility at the drop of an overpriced hot dog.

The only way that the players and BR can actually win is by putting 3 or 4 goals a game past the oppo a few times in succession.

[brendywendy]

But how fragile is this new found enthusiasm?

I know as well as anyone that a misplaced pass here, a woeful piece of control there and a comedy of errors leading to another goal conceded will lead to hostility at the drop of an overpriced hot dog.

The only way that the players and BR can actually win is by putting 3 or 4 goals a game past the oppo a few times in succession.

not from me, booing your own team is for mugs


the most youll get from me is a groan, and some raised eyebrows

[brendywendy]

unless i actually dropped my hotdog that is

[Dirk Gently]

unless i actually dropped my hotdog that is

is that a euphenism?

[Royal We]

i started off this season, not really recognising many of the players, not liking the formation, being unsure about the managers public statements/style, but over the last few weeks, weve changed to 4-4-2, had a settled side, and ive started to get a real feel for some fo the kids, karacan, pearce, sigurddson, davies, and more importantly ive started to feel that the manager really does know what hes doing rather than just hoping,
and i have started to really like the guy.
when we lose badly, and the crowd get on his back i feel quite defensive, and i ve started to really give a toss about it all.i may even sing brendan rodgers barmy army on saturday



have i been taken in by the club spin? is it because weve had a win in the first time in ages?
is it just because my default position is to back the club? has this little bit of adversity has just brought me closer to the team? is it because i dont really know what im on about?

I care that you care but I bet you don't care that I care that you care.