If Khizanishvili plays - will we be in trouble?

[BonBoh]

Has anyone actually checked to see whether ZK has played for Blackburn this season?
He is allowed to be registered at 3 clubs but only allowed to play for 2 of them.
If he was loaned to Newcastle and hasn't played for Blackburn this season then there is no issue around him playing for us.

[Ian Royal]

Has anyone actually checked to see whether ZK has played for Blackburn this season?
He is allowed to be registered at 3 clubs but only allowed to play for 2 of them.
If he was loaned to Newcastle and hasn't played for Blackburn this season then there is no issue around him playing for us.

Played in both league cup and FA cup

[BonBoh]

OK, I checked myself...

From http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10303~10070,00.html

Hailing from Georgia, Zura arrived in the British Isles courtesy of a move from Lokomotiv Tblisi to Dundee in 2001. An impressive couple of seasons saw him move to Glasgow Rangers.

Zura arrived at Ewood Park initially on a season long loan from Rangers, but the Georgian international settled into Lancashire life so comfortably that he was soon a regular in Mark Hughes' squad. Culminating in Rovers making the move permanent in signing him on a three year deal.

The 24 year old defender is able to operate in a number of positions, in the centre of defence, as a holding midfielder, or as right back.

Signed a new three-year-deal in January 2008 that sees him contracted to the club until the summer of 2011.

Limited opportunites saw the Georgian make the move to Newcastle United on an emergency three-month loan deal in September 2009.

Season 2009 - 10

Newcastle
Competition Apps(as sub) Goals YellowCards RedCards
League 6 (1) 0 2 1


Blackburn
Competition Apps(as sub) Goals YellowCards RedCards
FA Cup 0 (1) 0 0 0
League Cup 1 (0) 0 0 0

[Hoop Blah]

Soccerbase says the loan started 17th August, but that's clearly wrong as he played for Newcastle after that.... If the loan was only 3 months then, as you say, it was an emergency loan and we're in the clear with the FL/FA.

I'm guessing you mean Blackburn there and not Newcastle, or am I missing something?

[RoyalBlue]

Have we fcuked up, here?

No we haven't.If anyone has it is the FL/FA for allowing the move - no transfer can happen without their agreement.

THey have already stopped one transfer happening:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/y/yeovil/8485202.stm

Yeovil Town's hopes of re-signing Welsh midfielder Arron Davies have been thwarted after they were told the registration is against FIFA rules.

The 25-year-old has already appeared for Nottingham Forest and Brighton this season and cannot therefore play competitively for the Glovers.

The rules state than an individual may only play for two clubs in one season.

Davies, who first played at Huish Park between 2004 and 2007 became a free agent in September.

Doesn't make sense - there is nothing wrong with a registration transferring to a third club.

It certainly doesn't make sense if he is a free agent i.e. doesn't have an employer at present. The footballing authorities could find themselves on course for a legal clash in terms of restraint of trade. Unless you compensate that person, it is extremely difficult to prevent them seeking/taking up gainful employment in their normal type of work.

[Platypuss]

Soccerbase says the loan started 17th August, but that's clearly wrong as he played for Newcastle after that.... If the loan was only 3 months then, as you say, it was an emergency loan and we're in the clear with the FL/FA.

I'm guessing you mean Blackburn there and not Newcastle, or am I missing something?

Yep - Blackburn, sorry.

[Wycombe Royal]

It certainly doesn't make sense if he is a free agent i.e. doesn't have an employer at present. The footballing authorities could find themselves on course for a legal clash in terms of restraint of trade. Unless you compensate that person, it is extremely difficult to prevent them seeking/taking up gainful employment in their normal type of work.

I think that would depend on his contract situation. If he still had say a year left on his contract and Forest released him by paying up that final year of his contract then "restraint of trade" may not apply as he has already been paid for working this season, even though he doesn't have a club.

If his contract expired and he had no contract then your point is more valid, however he played for Forest this season and was released in September.

[Hoop Blah]

Surely if another club was then willing to pay him for his services within that same period it would still be restraint of trade. Would seem a bit odd if not, but who knows, there's some odd rules and regulations out there.

I trust that the club have covered their bases on this one.

[Wycombe Royal]

Surely if another club was then willing to pay him for his services within that same period it would still be restraint of trade. Would seem a bit odd if not, but who knows, there's some odd rules and regulations out there.

I'n not saying I agree with it, but from a legal point of view they see it that he has been paid for this season and therefore denying him the chance to play for another club may not be seen as restraint of trade.

AccordingtoWIkipedia his contract was terminated in January by mutual consent so I would guess that Forest have paid it up so he won't actually be out of pocket and signing for another club may just be extra money......

[Gus the teenage cow]

I'm not too bothered about the registration thing but TBMs thread does raise an interesting point.

As far as I am aware we have never won a game that the Georgian has started so, much like Gareth Bale, he could have a morale-sapping effect on the rest of the squad if he starts. I know Gareth Bale took almost 2 years before he started a league game that Spurs won. I hope the same fate doesn't befall Zurab....but it is a most sobering thought though.

The solution: don't start him as it will not alone sap the team's confidence, it will sap his confidence

[Wycombe Royal]

Just stick to AE Gus.......

[The whole year inn]

Why do the FA let transfers like this go through if there is a risk ....

[Sun Tzu]

As far as I am aware we have never won a game that the Georgian has started so,

Quite the contrary, I believe we have in fact won every game which he has started in Royals colours.

[Franchise FC]

a few seasons back West Ham's (I think) secretary failed to note that one player had been cup tied whilst on loan to Gillingham (I think) and they fielded an illegitimate player.

Bastards

A few seasons back West Ham's secretary failed to notice that Carlos Tevez was not legitimatly registered. Cost them £40m in total, so be prepared for a new round of cloth cutting.

[Platypuss]

Surely if another club was then willing to pay him for his services within that same period it would still be restraint of trade. Would seem a bit odd if not, but who knows, there's some odd rules and regulations out there.

I'n not saying I agree with it, but from a legal point of view they see it that he has been paid for this season and therefore denying him the chance to play for another club may not be seen as restraint of trade.

AccordingtoWIkipedia his contract was terminated in January by mutual consent so I would guess that Forest have paid it up so he won't actually be out of pocket and signing for another club may just be extra money......

Though surely ,by definition, still restraint of trade, surely?

[Platypuss]

Just stick to AE Gus.......

Indeed. Hope he gets paid by ther word, otherwise why the feck does he bother?

[Ian Royal]

As far as I am aware we have never won a game that the Georgian has started so,

Quite the contrary, I believe we have in fact won every game which he has started in Royals colours.

We've certainly not lost a game with him

[Deadlock]

..although a few seasons back West Ham's (I think) secretary failed to note that one player had been cup tied whilst on loan to Gillingham (I think) and they fielded an illegitimate player.

Samassi Abou.

Nope. Manny Omoyinmi

[Sun Tzu]

As far as I am aware we have never won a game that the Georgian has started so,

Quite the contrary, I believe we have in fact won every game which he has started in Royals colours.

The run continues I believe. A win in every game he has appeared....

[Terminal Boardom]

Well, he has played for us now. What happens next?