Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

[melonhead]

Exactly. And having let us down at that point (only he truly knows how injured he was at various points during his career with us) he could no longer be relied on to be a key player for us. Therefore IMO his departure this season was no great loss. Rather have a slightly less talented but far more robust/reliable player in his place.

dont even bother with your idiotically gay conspiracy theory you mentalist

Theory?? Last occasion seemed pretty much fact judging by what Adkins had to say.

Other facts: Kebe picked up far more injuries than most other players. Compared to most players, he was very slow to recover from his injuries and often encountered 'set backs'. He was often missing due to injury when the team/club had hit tough times and people needed to stand up and be counted.

i fully believe jimmy kebe knew he was being sold, and therefore didnt want to jeopardise that by playing and running the risk of snapping his paper thin tendons again.
that makes sense. & happens all the time during transfer windows


what im loling about is you transferring that to every other injury he ever had at various other points in his reading career

[melonhead]

I remember a lot of seat banging that day.

there are alot of morons

[RoyalBlue]

Theory?? Last occasion seemed pretty much fact judging by what Adkins had to say.

Other facts: Kebe picked up far more injuries than most other players. Compared to most players, he was very slow to recover from his injuries and often encountered 'set backs'. He was often missing due to injury when the team/club had hit tough times and people needed to stand up and be counted.

i fully believe jimmy kebe knew he was being sold, and therefore didnt want to jeopardise that by playing and running the risk of snapping his paper thin tendons again.
that makes sense. & happens all the time during transfer windows


what im loling about is you transferring that to every other injury he ever had at various other points in his reading career

I wasn't trying to suggest he refused to play on previous occasions (well not since he 'went on strike' to force his loan club to let him move to us). However, I was questioning his level of motivation to 'return to the fray' following previous injuries, particularly when the team was going through tough spells.

Some players have to be prevented from returning too early to protect them from their overwhelming desire to play, despite perhaps not being fully fit, others need a bit of a nudge to overcome their psychological concerns about a possible relapse and pursuade them that they are ready to return. I have a view as to where Kebe sits on that continuum. But maybe I am wrong and he is just more injury prone and a slow healer.

[melonhead]

Theory?? Last occasion seemed pretty much fact judging by what Adkins had to say.

Other facts: Kebe picked up far more injuries than most other players. Compared to most players, he was very slow to recover from his injuries and often encountered 'set backs'. He was often missing due to injury when the team/club had hit tough times and people needed to stand up and be counted.

i fully believe jimmy kebe knew he was being sold, and therefore didnt want to jeopardise that by playing and running the risk of snapping his paper thin tendons again.
that makes sense. & happens all the time during transfer windows


what im loling about is you transferring that to every other injury he ever had at various other points in his reading career

I wasn't trying to suggest he refused to play on previous occasions (well not since he 'went on strike' to force his loan club to let him move to us). However, I was questioning his level of motivation to 'return to the fray' following previous injuries, particularly when the team was going through tough spells.

Some players have to be prevented from returning too early to protect them from their overwhelming desire to play, despite perhaps not being fully fit, others need a bit of a nudge to overcome their psychological concerns about a possible relapse and pursuade them that they are ready to return. I have a view as to where Kebe sits on that continuum. But maybe I am wrong and he is just more injury prone and a slow healer.

whilst

(only he truly knows how injured he was at various points during his career with us)

is a statement of undeniable FACT it applies to everyone about anything that is from within their own minds, so you including it certainly implies you have doubts about his previous injuries too

[Mr Angry]

Kebe, as entertaining and as devastating as he could be, demonstrated (with one honourable exception*) zero bottle.

I seem to recall Pratley giving him the benefit of a hard though wholly legitimate tackle early on at The Liberty Stadium a few seasons ago; result? Kebe disappeared from the game till he was subbed after an hour or so.


*The honourable exception was v West Ham 2 seasons ago in our 4-2 win; post-sock gate, he knew he was in for a tough time and to be fair to him, took everything they threw at him that day.

[Victor Meldrew]

Total non-story. Did anything change from this non-event happening, will it change anything at all? No. We move on.

Thank you very much for that posting and I can now sleep at night not worrying that the supposedly wealthy Russian with deep pockets cannot come up with a few quid to buy our club outright despite having over a year to save up.

Having played golf with a Pompey fan yesterday, who lamented that their problems all started with Russian involvement at their club when they were in the Premier League and now they are heading towards the Conference,I was worried that the same could happen to us but now my worrying is over.
Thanks again.

I'd suggest stop being a fukwit and you'll stop worrying.

You're a rude chap Ian-do you have one humour cell in that little brain of yours?

[Ian Royal]

You need to read up on anatomy from a different book.

[leon]

Ooh hard man alert

[AthleticoSpizz]

Does come across a tad bit harsh from the angry lil' man

[Uke]

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... eading-fc/

See also here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=113727&start=1100#p3807932

[windermere_royal]

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... eading-fc/

See also here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=113727&start=1100#p3807932

I`m off to the car park, who`s coming? worrying times

[melonhead]

Kebe, as entertaining and as devastating as he could be, demonstrated (with one honourable exception*) zero bottle.

.

[melonhead]

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... eading-fc/

See also here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=113727&start=1100#p3807932

I`m off to the car park, who`s coming? worrying times

already there, ill put the kettle on

[Ian Royal]

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/ ... eading-fc/

See also here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=113727&start=1100#p3807932

I'd be more concerned if they could get even the most basic facts right in the article, the remaining 49% is for about £12m. And if it wasn't anything other than reporting what a bunch of conspiracy theorists are talking about on the internet with no evidence to support it.

[blindedbythelights]

I can confirm Dirk Gently is already on twitter alluding to inside info the rest of us aren't privy to, this isn't looking good

[Ian Royal]

I can confirm Dirk Gently is already on twitter alluding to inside info the rest of us aren't privy to, this isn't looking good

I'll consider its possibility when there's some actual evidence.

[Lacoste]

Whats his twitter account?

[handbags_harris]

Thing is, we can all listen to some bloke down the pub with his RFC conspiracy theories and dismiss them, but when that bloke in the pub is actually known to have good links into RFC then I, for one, tend to stand up and listen. When that bloke in the pub turns into two blokes down the pub saying the same, or similar, thing in different conversations, then it may well be put down to coincidence. But when a third person turns around and says almost exactly the same thing as the other two in another completely separate conversation, well then I tend to lean ever further towards the scepticism end of the spectrum where TSI is concerned.

From day one, the people I know have said that there isn't actually any money. Almost a year after the Jason Roberts transfer, the money had not materialised for that particular transfer. I don't know if the money has now been transferred. The consistent message I get is that TSI doesn't actually have any money and now the exit strategy is being dealt with as we speak, and dependent on which account the PL money gets transferred to, well if it ends up in the wrong one then RFC could well end up in administration.

As I understand it, big earners will probably be sold of in January, or if they feel it is prudent to gamble then the summer. High value assets will be sold, and we will be left with the deadwood like Gorkks and a crop of promising but untried youngsters.

Personally speaking, knowing what I have been told by people I know have links into the club, it has been very difficult not to look upon TSI as one big fraudulent entity full of faceless "investors" who actually have f*ck all in the way of cash. They have duped the powers that be at RFC, the Football League and the Premier League into believing they were the real deal, but most importantly they have duped Reading fans. Gimpish as they may be, Reading fans don't really deserve this, and I only hope that there is a positive outcome at the end of it. From Madejski down, the people at RFC fought for over a decade to embed RFC into the top two divisons of English football, to build the fanbase and the club into the entity that it is now, and it could all come crashing down all because some bent tossers wanted a plaything to embezzle their fraudulently earned funds. And here's the critical point - AZ was a good face for TSI. The locally educated, young "billionaire" with the fit wife who was prepared to front the company, who would easily win over fans due to his links to the town and the fact he was ready to face the music...only he hasn't really has he? He is a perfect foil for the faceless c*nts behind the company. I've resisted many temptations to post these feelings until now because of the sh*t I'd no doubt get, and will probably get on the back of this, but hey, just wait until those chickens come home to roost...I imagine the fox will get them first.

[winchester_royal]

When a reliable poster like Handbags is posting stuff like that....well, I think we now have cause to be very concerned.

I've previously always backed Anton and co because it appeared to me as if they were going about things in a sensible business-like manner. Investment in the academy/training ground etc seemed like a good way to improve the long term prospects of the club and all the soundbites were exactly what as fans we wanted to hear from the owner. I also trusted Sir John, and assumed he'd only sell the club to the real deal, rather than put at risk a legacy he'd spent over 20 years building.

If, as is being increasingly strongly muted, things aren't all that they seem then I'll hold my hands up and apologise to anyone on here that I'd brow-beaten for having the audacity to question TSI's intentions. I wanted to believe that there was ambitious investment behind the club. I wanted to believe that significant amounts of money were going into making our academy one of the best in the country. I wanted to believe in our young Russian owner's fairytale quest for European football. I wanted to believe in the Adkins Adolescents.

I guess there will be plenty of questions (and no answers in all likelihood) over the next few days. Lets hope things aren't as bad in reality as they are being made to appear in the virtual world atm.

[RoyalBlue]

Thing is, we can all listen to some bloke down the pub with his RFC conspiracy theories and dismiss them, but when that bloke in the pub is actually known to have good links into RFC then I, for one, tend to stand up and listen. When that bloke in the pub turns into two blokes down the pub saying the same, or similar, thing in different conversations, then it may well be put down to coincidence. But when a third person turns around and says almost exactly the same thing as the other two in another completely separate conversation, well then I tend to lean ever further towards the scepticism end of the spectrum where TSI is concerned.

From day one, the people I know have said that there isn't actually any money. Almost a year after the Jason Roberts transfer, the money had not materialised for that particular transfer. I don't know if the money has now been transferred. The consistent message I get is that TSI doesn't actually have any money and now the exit strategy is being dealt with as we speak, and dependent on which account the PL money gets transferred to, well if it ends up in the wrong one then RFC could well end up in administration.

As I understand it, big earners will probably be sold of in January, or if they feel it is prudent to gamble then the summer. High value assets will be sold, and we will be left with the deadwood like Gorkks and a crop of promising but untried youngsters.

Personally speaking, knowing what I have been told by people I know have links into the club, it has been very difficult not to look upon TSI as one big fraudulent entity full of faceless "investors" who actually have f*ck all in the way of cash. They have duped the powers that be at RFC, the Football League and the Premier League into believing they were the real deal, but most importantly they have duped Reading fans. Gimpish as they may be, Reading fans don't really deserve this, and I only hope that there is a positive outcome at the end of it. From Madejski down, the people at RFC fought for over a decade to embed RFC into the top two divisons of English football, to build the fanbase and the club into the entity that it is now, and it could all come crashing down all because some bent tossers wanted a plaything to embezzle their fraudulently earned funds. And here's the critical point - AZ was a good face for TSI. The locally educated, young "billionaire" with the fit wife who was prepared to front the company, who would easily win over fans due to his links to the town and the fact he was ready to face the music...only he hasn't really has he? He is a perfect foil for the faceless c*nts behind the company. I've resisted many temptations to post these feelings until now because of the sh*t I'd no doubt get, and will probably get on the back of this, but hey, just wait until those chickens come home to roost...I imagine the fox will get them first.

If things do turn out how you warn, then the people you name who worked so hard to build up Reading FC will also be very much to blame for allowing it all to crash in flames. If proper due diligence has been carried out then it would not be possible to dupe Madejski and others in the manner you sugggest.