The truth about Royston...

[AthleticoSpizz]

Handbags....wotcha say?

[MmmMonsterMunch]

So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.

No. Not conjecture. More than that, but not hard documentary evidence, which fans are never ever going to have.

Yes, but what is it?

Feel like Paxman trying to get an answer out of Michael Howard.

Check his Instagram from last season - you will find videos & photos of him & his entourage fcuked & smoking shisha the night before a Reading game.

I was also told by someone who works at the club that Royston was barred from travelling with the matchday squad in April (I believe it was Donny away or Wigan away) as he'd been out on the lash in Liverpool during the week. I posted it on here at the time as it's the one rare occasion where I've actually found anything out.

I have zero connections and am not ITK as it were it was just a chance encounter with someone.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see. He is a bad egg & needs to be moved on.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Well? SPEAK UP MAN?!

It's all already there. I don't need to add anything.

Hi Ian, I hope you are well. I want to apologise for raising my voice. If you could give me a brief summary of the evidence against Drenthe to save me the time of sifting back through this thread I'd be extremely grateful.

Thank you in advance, your pal EP
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[sandman]

You won't get the evidence, still waiting for that video of Matt Mills "destroying a supermarket aisle".

[Extended-Phenotype]

I'm not trying to catch anyone out. I'm not even trying to defend Drenthe. I've just read through bits of this thread and keep hearing that Drenthe deserves this and that 'cos he's been a dick - just wondered if this dickness extends beyond "some bloke in O'Neils said" rumour.

All I've heard in any real capacity is that Drenthe is signed to an outlandishly expensive contract with performance based bonuses that we can't afford and along with the fact he hasn't been all that good is spurring the club to drive him out.

Just want to know what else there is to add to that but folk seem a little sheepish with providing information other than "look it up for yourself".

[wingnut]

Where's the evidence it's performance-related bonuses that's keeping him out of the team? Have you got a copy of his contract?

[melonhead]

couldnt give a fook about off the field.

its on the field that hes been pretty awful, in the main

[Extended-Phenotype]

Where's the evidence it's performance-related bonuses that's keeping him out of the team? Have you got a copy of his contract?

That's not what I said, but thanks for answering a question with a question. Ftr, it was widely reported that Drenthe himself said that since Anton had vanished we could no longer afford to play him.

[Winston Smith]

You won't get the evidence, still waiting for that video of Matt Mills "destroying a supermarket aisle".

I have actually seen that. I saw it on Matt Mills phone as he thought it was hilarious and was passing it around a small group. He didn't destroy a supermarket aisle, he basically jumped 2 footed into a load of cereal boxes and then rolled around on the floor giggling. was all fairly childish and tbh

[Uke]

Yes, but what is it?

Feel like Paxman trying to get an answer out of Michael Howard.

Check his Instagram from last season - you will find videos & photos of him & his entourage fcuked & smoking shisha the night before a Reading game.

I was also told by someone who works at the club that Royston was barred from travelling with the matchday squad in April (I believe it was Donny away or Wigan away) as he'd been out on the lash in Liverpool during the week. I posted it on here at the time as it's the one rare occasion where I've actually found anything out.

I have zero connections and am not ITK as it were it was just a chance encounter with someone.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see. He is a bad egg & needs to be moved on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87694.html

It's clear what his problems are from this article published before he went to Everton, a simple Google search by our erstwhile owner at the time would have found this in seconds but he wanted his "marquee" but only ended up with a tent in his trousers.

Adkins and McD probably knew via the football grapevine. The club can't say anything as it would wipe a couple of million off our assets - it's not like the days of Byron Glasgow when the finances were much, much smaller.

Basically, papers have a way of 'saying' he is a coke head very clearly without actually putting themselves in a libellous position...

[wingnut]

Where's the evidence it's performance-related bonuses that's keeping him out of the team? Have you got a copy of his contract?

That's not what I said, but thanks for answering a question with a question. Ftr, it was widely reported that Drenthe himself said that since Anton had vanished we could no longer afford to play him.

It wasn't me that was asserting it was Royston's behaviour that was causing his freeze-out so I don't think I'm oblig8ted to answer the question but I thought it odd to question one assertion and replace it with another. I notice you've not answered mine, btw.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Where's the evidence it's performance-related bonuses that's keeping him out of the team? Have you got a copy of his contract?

That's not what I said, but thanks for answering a question with a question. Ftr, it was widely reported that Drenthe himself said that since Anton had vanished we could no longer afford to play him.

It wasn't me that was asserting it was Royston's behaviour that was causing his freeze-out so I don't think I'm oblig8ted to answer the question but I thought it odd to question one assertion and replace it with another. I notice you've not answered mine, btw.

Soz, in the edit. I think it was around January that Drenthe stated the club couldn't afford to play him and that they wanted him to leave, confirmed by Charles Watts and reported in every newspaper.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Yes, but what is it?

Feel like Paxman trying to get an answer out of Michael Howard.

Check his Instagram from last season - you will find videos & photos of him & his entourage fcuked & smoking shisha the night before a Reading game.

I was also told by someone who works at the club that Royston was barred from travelling with the matchday squad in April (I believe it was Donny away or Wigan away) as he'd been out on the lash in Liverpool during the week. I posted it on here at the time as it's the one rare occasion where I've actually found anything out.

I have zero connections and am not ITK as it were it was just a chance encounter with someone.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see. He is a bad egg & needs to be moved on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87694.html

It's clear what his problems are from this article published before he went to Everton, a simple Google search by our erstwhile owner at the time would have found this in seconds but he wanted his "marquee" but only ended up with a tent in his trousers.

Adkins and McD probably knew via the football grapevine. The club can't say anything as it would wipe a couple of million off our assets - it's not like the days of Byron Glasgow when the finances were much, much smaller.

Basically, papers have a way of 'saying' he is a coke head very clearly without actually putting themselves in a libellous position...

Coolio, so lots of stuff on him misbehaving prior to joining us but any evidence to confirm he has been disruptive or guilty of misconduct while at Reading?

[wingnut]

That's not what I said, but thanks for answering a question with a question. Ftr, it was widely reported that Drenthe himself said that since Anton had vanished we could no longer afford to play him.

It wasn't me that was asserting it was Royston's behaviour that was causing his freeze-out so I don't think I'm oblig8ted to answer the question but I thought it odd to question one assertion and replace it with another. I notice you've not answered mine, btw.

Soz, in the edit. I think it was around January that Drenthe stated the club couldn't afford to play him and that they wanted him to leave, confirmed by Charles Watts and reported in every newspaper.

Doesn't explain why he has to train with the under-21s though and he has played since January so it seems unlikely to be solely down to "performance related bonuses" as you asserted.

[PieEater]

Who are all these oxf*rd asking for "evidence". Like the OS is going post anything about a players behaviour

[Extended-Phenotype]

Doesn't explain why he has to train with the under-21s though and he has played since January so it seems unlikely to be solely down to "performance related bonuses" as you asserted.

But I didn't though. Again, that's not what I said chap.

[wingnut]

All I've heard in any real capacity is that Drenthe is signed to an outlandishly expensive contract with performance based bonuses that we can't afford and along with the fact he hasn't been all that good is spurring the club to drive him out.

Seems like it to me.

[Extended-Phenotype]

All I've heard in any real capacity is that Drenthe is signed to an outlandishly expensive contract with performance based bonuses that we can't afford and along with the fact he hasn't been all that good is spurring the club to drive him out.

Seems like it to me.

Doesn't explain why he has to train with the under-21s though and he has played since January so it seems unlikely to be solely down to "performance related bonuses" as you asserted.

HTH

[wingnut]

Ok but you are asserting its a factor and I've not seen anything from the club that says they can't afford to pay him. As I said, it also doesn't explain why he has to train with the stiffs.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Ok but you are asserting its a factor and I've not seen anything from the club that says they can't afford to pay him. As I said, it also doesn't explain why he has to train with the stiffs.

I'm with PieEater here - not really expecting the source of any of our questions to be the club in an official capacity. And I don't think training with the U21's is particularly important in this discussion: it fits the story with the story that we want to force him out but doesn't affirm any of the proposed reasons over another (wages, performances, conduct or a combination of the three).