CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 15 Jun 2016 10:32

I like Stam's opening comments.

I also like what he said about his 18 year old Jong Ajax players coming up against 30 year olds in the professional leagues in Holland.

Hopefully that means that Jaap will have confidence to throw the youngsters into these highly competitive games against the big boys. Hopefully Jaap knows when is right to blood the youth. At the same time though, i don't think results were the most important thing for Jong Ajax. It was more about getting players ready for the Ajax first team. At Reading though, results do matter. He can only play the youth when they are ready and good enough to win games against Championship opponents.

His comments also underline again that very little money will be spent on the first team. Hopefully Samuel, Fosu, Kuhl, Stacey and the rest are ready for action. It's going to be a big season for these kids.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by George_ » 15 Jun 2016 10:50

Top Flight I like Stam's opening comments.

I also like what he said about his 18 year old Jong Ajax players coming up against 30 year olds in the professional leagues in Holland.

Hopefully that means that Jaap will have confidence to throw the youngsters into these highly competitive games against the big boys. Hopefully Jaap knows when is right to blood the youth. At the same time though, i don't think results were the most important thing for Jong Ajax. It was more about getting players ready for the Ajax first team. At Reading though, results do matter. He can only play the youth when they are ready and good enough to win games against Championship opponents.

His comments also underline again that very little money will be spent on the first team. Hopefully Samuel, Fosu, Kuhl, Stacey and the rest are ready for action. It's going to be a big season for these kids.


Tshibola also. Stay fit & i think he will be a MASSIVE player for us next season.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Nameless » 15 Jun 2016 11:30

Once a player hits 20 surely he deserves more than being labelled a kid.
I can't see us using more than one teenager in the first team next season and players like Samuel , Cooper , Evans and Tishbola are adults with a full seasons worth of first team games under their belt.
It's hardly ground breaking for clubs to use 21 and 22 year old players is it ?

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 15 Jun 2016 11:49

Nameless Once a player hits 20 surely he deserves more than being labelled a kid.
I can't see us using more than one teenager in the first team next season and players like Samuel , Cooper , Evans and Tishbola are adults with a full seasons worth of first team games under their belt.
It's hardly ground breaking for clubs to use 21 and 22 year old players is it ?


You're right Nameless.

If they're good enough then they're old enough. Someone needs to be able to judge whether they are good enough and have the confidence to play them and let them gain experience. Hopefully Jaap is able to make the right decisions either way.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Norfolk Royal » 15 Jun 2016 11:57

I took from Stam's comments that he is going to fill the team with a load of massive brutes in his own image. Might be fun.


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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by John Smith » 15 Jun 2016 12:11

Norfolk Royal I took from Stam's comments that he is going to fill the team with a load of massive brutes in his own image. Might be fun.

Same here. Maybe bye bye Rakels?

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Nameless » 15 Jun 2016 12:23

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Nameless Once a player hits 20 surely he deserves more than being labelled a kid.
I can't see us using more than one teenager in the first team next season and players like Samuel , Cooper , Evans and Tishbola are adults with a full seasons worth of first team games under their belt.
It's hardly ground breaking for clubs to use 21 and 22 year old players is it ?


You're right Nameless.

If they're good enough then they're old enough. Someone needs to be able to judge whether they are good enough and have the confidence to play them and let them gain experience. Hopefully Jaap is able to make the right decisions either way.


What do you think about Josh Barratt TF ? I'd been a bit unsure but the last couple of games he looked very comfortable.
At 18 he might be the one people are concerned about as being just a kid but I reckon he's worth getting straight in the side. Whether we could play him and Samuel together with Barrett in the 10 role I'm not sure. A front 4 of Barratt, Samuel, Fosu and Stacey would be risky but potentially very exciting.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 15 Jun 2016 13:02

You can see that Josh Barrett has got quality.

He didn't look like he was attuned to the pace and intensity of the championship in the couple of games that he played in, but he has a good eye for a pass and the quality to spray balls around the park. Hopefully with more experience and opportunities he will be able to up his intensity and work rate and properly compete in the dog eat dog division that it is. You have to earn the right to play and he has to be able to fight it out, take a game by the scruff of the neck and make things happen for us.

I would say that Josh has a lot of potential. He has a lot of work to do to realise that potential.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Forbury Lion » 15 Jun 2016 13:25

I read on getreading a quote that Jaap Stam's first job is to sit down and discuss transfer funding with the owners.

Do managers really not discuss this before taking the job? - He might be in for a shock when he's told there isn't any/he can spend whatever we get back from selling players...... and then when they sign players without his involvement.

Possibly Brian McDermot's downfall, not establishing all the facts before taking the job both at Reading 2nd spell and Leeds... although I assume Clarke made the same mistake a Reading.


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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Maneki Neko » 15 Jun 2016 14:25

Forbury Lion I read on getreading a quote that Jaap Stam's first job is to sit down and discuss transfer funding with the owners.

Do managers really not discuss this before taking the job? - He might be in for a shock when he's told there isn't any/he can spend whatever we get back from selling players...... and then when they sign players without his involvement.

Possibly Brian McDermot's downfall, not establishing all the facts before taking the job both at Reading 2nd spell and Leeds... although I assume Clarke made the same mistake a Reading.


think it was pretty clear from th eoff that McDermott was fully aware of the situation in terms of budget and owner interference
his downfall was not extracting more response from a shit squad, in a short time span

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Nameless » 15 Jun 2016 16:46

Forbury Lion I read on getreading a quote that Jaap Stam's first job is to sit down and discuss transfer funding with the owners.

Do managers really not discuss this before taking the job? - He might be in for a shock when he's told there isn't any/he can spend whatever we get back from selling players...... and then when they sign players without his involvement.

Possibly Brian McDermot's downfall, not establishing all the facts before taking the job both at Reading 2nd spell and Leeds... although I assume Clarke made the same mistake a Reading.


I think elsewhere it was said that he had discussions on funding already. The point on Getreading was that once he has assessed his squad he will then talk to the owners about specific targets. Sounds like it may even be the standard RFC policy - no fictional budget announced (see Villa) but an agreement that the manager could bring in players if he makes the case that they are needed and value for money. That's how I've pieced it together anyway. Given Stam's long standing link to Dutch Brian you have to expect that the transfer policy is understood by all.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Lower West » 15 Jun 2016 18:47

Nameless What do you think about Josh Barratt TF ? I'd been a bit unsure but the last couple of games he looked very comfortable.
At 18 he might be the one people are concerned about as being just a kid but I reckon he's worth getting straight in the side.


Needs a loan season in league 2.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by vdWindt » 16 Jun 2016 09:09

Hi guys,

Just registered to give you guys some hope..

The manager Stam is one of the most talented in the Netherlands, who like al Dutch trainers like attacking football.. Difference is Stam style of working is very realistic and he doesnt attack at all cost. Did very good with the youngsters at Ajax and I was suprised that he was not chosen to follow up de Boer at the first team (pressure from the outside I think)

If the club let Stam do his job and get the Players he wants you will be in for a good season..


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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by TFF » 16 Jun 2016 09:21

vdWindt Hi guys,

Just registered to give you guys some hope..

The manager Stam is one of the most talented in the Netherlands, who like al Dutch trainers like attacking football.. Difference is Stam style of working is very realistic and he doesnt attack at all cost. Did very good with the youngsters at Ajax and I was suprised that he was not chosen to follow up de Boer at the first team (pressure from the outside I think)

If the club let Stam do his job and get the Players he wants you will be in for a good season..


Welcome to the forum Jaap

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 16 Jun 2016 09:27

So Jaap, which positions are your priority to strengthen this summer?

Can you give us any ideas as to which players you might be interested in to bring to the club?

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by vdWindt » 16 Jun 2016 09:38

Top Flight So Jaap, which positions are your priority to strengthen this summer?

Can you give us any ideas as to which players you might be interested in to bring to the club?


Lol :lol: I will bring myself to play in defence, Frank Rijkaard for midfield and Dennis Bergkamp as a striker .. We old guys are still way beter than the current players

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 16 Jun 2016 09:41

Jaap, please tell Said Bukkati not to bring his toy guns in to training. We don't need any incidents over there.

Those sound like great signings. Famous names. Good luck this season. We are backing you all the way!

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Forbury Lion » 16 Jun 2016 10:39

vdWindt If the club let Stam do his job and get the Players he wants you will be in for a good season..
If being the key part of that statement.

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Longhorn1970 » 16 Jun 2016 10:49

vdWindt Hi guys,

Just registered to give you guys some hope..

The manager Stam is one of the most talented in the Netherlands, who like al Dutch trainers like attacking football.. Difference is Stam style of working is very realistic and he doesnt attack at all cost. Did very good with the youngsters at Ajax and I was suprised that he was not chosen to follow up de Boer at the first team (pressure from the outside I think)

If the club let Stam do his job and get the Players he wants you will be in for a good season..


I wonder what he's been promised then ? all the noises here are that there's no money in the kitty and that we will be heavily reliant on young players which concerns me slightly in this league ..

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Re: CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

by Top Flight » 16 Jun 2016 11:27

Longhorn1970
vdWindt Hi guys,

Just registered to give you guys some hope..

The manager Stam is one of the most talented in the Netherlands, who like al Dutch trainers like attacking football.. Difference is Stam style of working is very realistic and he doesnt attack at all cost. Did very good with the youngsters at Ajax and I was suprised that he was not chosen to follow up de Boer at the first team (pressure from the outside I think)

If the club let Stam do his job and get the Players he wants you will be in for a good season..


I wonder what he's been promised then ? all the noises here are that there's no money in the kitty and that we will be heavily reliant on young players which concerns me slightly in this league ..


There is no doubt, it's going to be difficult next season. It would have been difficult whoever the manager was going to be. Even if McDermott stayed. I'm with you Longhorn, the board/ownership way of running things looks very dodgy. Relegation is a huge possibility for us next season.

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