CONFRIMED: Takeover collapsed; Back to square one

[MouldyRoyal]

Yeah this is the likely takeover SPV - Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/15584628

Owned by Chiron Sports Group AG. Redwood Capital is, I believe, a Scottish investment vehicle, but the name is generic so I may be mistaken (and do not know to which article Dirk is referring). No connection.

[Sutekh]

Yeah this is the likely takeover SPV - Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd:

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/15584628

Owned by Chiron Sports Group AG. Redwood Capital is, I believe, a Scottish investment vehicle, but the name is generic so I may be mistaken (and do not know to which article Dirk is referring). No connection.

Well guess this all means it must be imminent now

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

[Ascotexgunner]

Couhig jumps out from the wings onto the stage wearing full kit oxf*rd and shouts "I bought you!"

Limbs and beer everywhere.

Followed by "and unfortunately the club financially isn't viable and we will be merging with Wycombe"...

God, you have to shit on absolutely everything don't you, you sad sack bastard.

Yes.....it tends to bring people back to the real shitty world and protects them from getting too carried away.

[MouldyRoyal]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

[Clyde1998]

Is the inference of the changes recorded on Friday that Chiron aren't going to be involved?

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

[Stranded]

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

[scumbag]

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

[Stranded]

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

[MouldyRoyal]

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Yes it would go on Companies House but not straight away. Therefore there is a chance that Chiron no longer owns Redwood Holdings 1 at this point in time, with this potentially being owned by a Couhig related holding company, but that doesn't make commercial sense imo.

If Couhig's consortium had replaced Chiron, then why would they buy out Chiron from an entity that doesn't yet own RFC? The only connection between RFC and Redwood is that RFC owes Redwood money. But still, buying out this entity first is simply buying the club with extra steps. If the two are separate, the more likely and simpler route is that Couhig would have his own SPV that buys the club and repays the debt to Redwood.

As such, it feels a safe conclusion to infer that Couhig is involved in the Chiron consortium now.

[Crusader Royal]

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

He must be more than the face, he must be an investor too. What would be the point of him simply being the front man ?

[Sutekh]

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

This certainly seems to be the case, Chiron are the money, Couhig is the face (and probably some money). Rifkind will likely still be involved via Chiron but is not a person of significant control of Redwood who will be the owners. So unless, Couhig has bought out Chiron from Redwood we will be run sustainably but with access to some pretty deep pockets if required.

Am I correct that if Chiron had sold the 3m shares they hold in Redwood Holdings 1 Ltd, this would have had to be noted on Companies House? I don't see this anywhere.

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

Didn't his son (Peter) run the day to day things at Wycombe at some point?

[blythspartan]

Couhig by all accounts doesn't have enough money to run/own us. He'll be the face of the consortium in my opinion.

If the ownership model is as it looks, that is a definite.

He must be more than the face, he must be an investor too. What would be the point of him simply being the front man ?

This has been mentioned earlier in this thread and is more wishful thinking, but I wonder if John Textor is involved at all. I don’t think he’s sold his shares in Palace yet which could be causing a delay. I am sure he’d want a bigger club than us, but it was only 2 weeks ago that he said he was close to owning 80% of another English club. I don’t think that’s Everton or Sheff U.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

I think it is the opposite, confirmation that Chiron is involved with Couhig (who has replaced Rifkind).

I'm being dense - how do we know both Chiron and Couhig are involved?

Redwood holdings 1 just has Couhig and his buddies as listed now...

Chiron own all the shares in Redwood (if my understanding of that page is correct): link.

So Chiron own Redwood (where Couhig has been made a director). Redwood will be the company owing the club and managing it on a day-to-day basis.

That link doesn't work for me - the above was my understanding - the amendments to redwood holdings 1 confused me - albeit I'm no expert to deciphering companies house stuff.

[On Strings]

Just bumped into Rob Couhig and said "Allo Allo. When's the takeover happening then?" and he snapped back and said "Vee will ask zee questions!"

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Tomorrow may well be the day!

[The Royal Forester]

Tomorrow may well be the day!

Haven't you heard? Tomorrow never comes!

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Tomorrow may well be the day!

Haven't you heard? Tomorrow never comes!

Lol! I've heard some promising mutterings, and it would be a huge relief if it happens.

[Snowflake Royal]

Tomorrow may well be the day!

Haven't you heard? Tomorrow never comes!

Lol! I've heard some promising mutterings, and it would be a huge relief if it happens.

Seem to recall you've been quite reliable in the past and on similar things to Elm Park has been reliable on.

If what he heard is reliable then Thursday or Friday could be very good times seeing as he said maybe this week.