Twatter Unpopular opinion- Hutch and Cooper are too slow and not good enough in posession #Millwall
Well yeah, that’s why we gave him to you.
by CountryRoyal » 09 Aug 2023 00:09
Twatter Unpopular opinion- Hutch and Cooper are too slow and not good enough in posession #Millwall
by paultheroyal » 09 Aug 2023 09:27
What's pissed me off most about last night's defeat is why didn't Reading play that team on Saturday!!, their loss to Peterboro cost me 234 quid!!
when you look at the team sheets posted up an hour before kick off and dont recognize a single Reading player from when we last played them in March this should have have been the closest thing to getting a bye into the next round
I've just watched a horror show the like of which I can only remember a couple of times in my 50 odd years of games.
Looking at our line up and the subs used that was 95% of our full strength squad
by Gunny Fishcake » 09 Aug 2023 18:37
MouldyRoyalCan’t believe a Wi-Fi password scored two against us
by Franchise FC » 09 Aug 2023 18:42
Gunny FishcakeMouldyRoyalCan’t believe a Wi-Fi password scored two against us
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by Clyde1998 » 09 Aug 2023 19:12
by From Despair To Where? » 09 Aug 2023 19:26
Franchise FCGunny FishcakeMouldyRoyal
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Someone needs to put a chant together for him using that
Either that or something similar about a Scrabble score
by CountryRoyal » 09 Aug 2023 19:38
Franchise FCGunny FishcakeMouldyRoyal
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Someone needs to put a chant together for him using that
Either that or something similar about a Scrabble score
by tidus_mi2 » 09 Aug 2023 20:46
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Someone needs to put a chant together for him using that
Either that or something similar about a Scrabble score
Give me an E…..
Oh.
by Franchise FC » 10 Aug 2023 08:50
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Someone needs to put a chant together for him using that
Either that or something similar about a Scrabble score
Give me an E…..
Oh.
by Sutekh » 10 Aug 2023 09:26
Franchise FCCountryRoyalFranchise FC Someone needs to put a chant together for him using that
Either that or something similar about a Scrabble score
Give me an E…..
Oh.
It’s E … H
by skipper » 10 Aug 2023 10:00
Dirk GentlyStrandedDirk Gently
'Greed. And that's the legacy of not having a long-term tradition of mass-support like many other clubs do - and especially those in traditionally industrial areas. All the fancy marketing in the world won't change that.
Quite - tradition of getting mass-support generally comes from a club having been successful 60-100 years ago and being in a town that people didn't really move from - supporting then got handed down from generation to generation.
With us, Reading was a relatively small market town with a club that was just happy existing in the lower reaches of football, with little to no sustained periods of success - we were in Divison 3 (S) or D3 from 1931/32 through to 70/71 and only then left the division through the trapdoor, spending all but 1 year of the rest of the 70s in the 4th division - so really no chance for the club to build up a bigger fanbase both locally and from further afield as clubs who were more successful then (even if less so now) managed to build.
Fanbases can still be built through prolonged success but as that wasn't achieved at the time of our grandfathers or great-grandfathers, any club building a fanbase this century will be seen as plastic - and with so much more option in terms of free time and access to football, these newer fanbases are also much more fragile than those built many decades ago (and even these can be fragile).
Just to add to this, all of the surveys about why people support a club or what made them first come to matches consistently show that for about 70% of people it's related to (mostly) family or (to a lesser extent) friends - "my dad took me", "we've always gone together", "it was my grandad's team" or something along those lines.
You can't replicate that without having large-scale support for at least a generation, and really a lot longer - and this is the sort of core-support that sticks to a club regardless of how they're doing or playing. For everyone else coming to the football is a leisure activity - a choice at the time, competing against lots of other potential things they could do, so a lot less "sticky" and dependable.
by Stranded » 10 Aug 2023 10:17
skipperDirk GentlyStranded
Quite - tradition of getting mass-support generally comes from a club having been successful 60-100 years ago and being in a town that people didn't really move from - supporting then got handed down from generation to generation.
With us, Reading was a relatively small market town with a club that was just happy existing in the lower reaches of football, with little to no sustained periods of success - we were in Divison 3 (S) or D3 from 1931/32 through to 70/71 and only then left the division through the trapdoor, spending all but 1 year of the rest of the 70s in the 4th division - so really no chance for the club to build up a bigger fanbase both locally and from further afield as clubs who were more successful then (even if less so now) managed to build.
Fanbases can still be built through prolonged success but as that wasn't achieved at the time of our grandfathers or great-grandfathers, any club building a fanbase this century will be seen as plastic - and with so much more option in terms of free time and access to football, these newer fanbases are also much more fragile than those built many decades ago (and even these can be fragile).
Just to add to this, all of the surveys about why people support a club or what made them first come to matches consistently show that for about 70% of people it's related to (mostly) family or (to a lesser extent) friends - "my dad took me", "we've always gone together", "it was my grandad's team" or something along those lines.
You can't replicate that without having large-scale support for at least a generation, and really a lot longer - and this is the sort of core-support that sticks to a club regardless of how they're doing or playing. For everyone else coming to the football is a leisure activity - a choice at the time, competing against lots of other potential things they could do, so a lot less "sticky" and dependable.
I wonder how much our core support changed / grew during the Coppell / McDermot years of sustained, albeit by our own standards, success. And whether we're currently riding on that fan base?
My personal fanship of Reading is because its the family home. Even though I never lived here. Both parents are born and raised Reading. So there was never any real option. Dad took me and the rest is history.
I started going just as Gilkes was coming through, and Parkinson and Caskey days. And have loved it ever since. I love our history with Robin Friday and the Simod Cup and reaching the FA quarters and producing a lot of incredible talent and doing it "the Reading way"
But most of that history is the past 40 years....
by leon » 10 Aug 2023 11:39
StrandedskipperDirk Gently
Just to add to this, all of the surveys about why people support a club or what made them first come to matches consistently show that for about 70% of people it's related to (mostly) family or (to a lesser extent) friends - "my dad took me", "we've always gone together", "it was my grandad's team" or something along those lines.
You can't replicate that without having large-scale support for at least a generation, and really a lot longer - and this is the sort of core-support that sticks to a club regardless of how they're doing or playing. For everyone else coming to the football is a leisure activity - a choice at the time, competing against lots of other potential things they could do, so a lot less "sticky" and dependable.
I wonder how much our core support changed / grew during the Coppell / McDermot years of sustained, albeit by our own standards, success. And whether we're currently riding on that fan base?
My personal fanship of Reading is because its the family home. Even though I never lived here. Both parents are born and raised Reading. So there was never any real option. Dad took me and the rest is history.
I started going just as Gilkes was coming through, and Parkinson and Caskey days. And have loved it ever since. I love our history with Robin Friday and the Simod Cup and reaching the FA quarters and producing a lot of incredible talent and doing it "the Reading way"
But most of that history is the past 40 years....
It definitely has got bigger as a result of that period and a lot of the teenagers through to late 20s now will be going as they either first went then or their parents went and dragged them a long a few years later - if we don't get success again in a realtively short period of time then the numbers will likely dwindle esp if people move on - for example, my son is turning in to a big football fan but due to him being born here, his club is Eintracht Frankfurt and whilst he knows who Reading are and wants them to do well for Daddy, he'll never be a fan.
by Stranded » 10 Aug 2023 12:13
leonStrandedskipper
I wonder how much our core support changed / grew during the Coppell / McDermot years of sustained, albeit by our own standards, success. And whether we're currently riding on that fan base?
My personal fanship of Reading is because its the family home. Even though I never lived here. Both parents are born and raised Reading. So there was never any real option. Dad took me and the rest is history.
I started going just as Gilkes was coming through, and Parkinson and Caskey days. And have loved it ever since. I love our history with Robin Friday and the Simod Cup and reaching the FA quarters and producing a lot of incredible talent and doing it "the Reading way"
But most of that history is the past 40 years....
It definitely has got bigger as a result of that period and a lot of the teenagers through to late 20s now will be going as they either first went then or their parents went and dragged them a long a few years later - if we don't get success again in a realtively short period of time then the numbers will likely dwindle esp if people move on - for example, my son is turning in to a big football fan but due to him being born here, his club is Eintracht Frankfurt and whilst he knows who Reading are and wants them to do well for Daddy, he'll never be a fan.
Plastic
by RoyalBlue » 10 Aug 2023 12:27
StrandedskipperDirk Gently
Just to add to this, all of the surveys about why people support a club or what made them first come to matches consistently show that for about 70% of people it's related to (mostly) family or (to a lesser extent) friends - "my dad took me", "we've always gone together", "it was my grandad's team" or something along those lines.
You can't replicate that without having large-scale support for at least a generation, and really a lot longer - and this is the sort of core-support that sticks to a club regardless of how they're doing or playing. For everyone else coming to the football is a leisure activity - a choice at the time, competing against lots of other potential things they could do, so a lot less "sticky" and dependable.
I wonder how much our core support changed / grew during the Coppell / McDermot years of sustained, albeit by our own standards, success. And whether we're currently riding on that fan base?
My personal fanship of Reading is because its the family home. Even though I never lived here. Both parents are born and raised Reading. So there was never any real option. Dad took me and the rest is history.
I started going just as Gilkes was coming through, and Parkinson and Caskey days. And have loved it ever since. I love our history with Robin Friday and the Simod Cup and reaching the FA quarters and producing a lot of incredible talent and doing it "the Reading way"
But most of that history is the past 40 years....
It definitely has got bigger as a result of that period and a lot of the teenagers through to late 20s now will be going as they either first went then or their parents went and dragged them a long a few years later - if we don't get success again in a realtively short period of time then the numbers will likely dwindle esp if people move on - for example, my son is turning in to a big football fan but due to him being born here, his club is Eintracht Frankfurt and whilst he knows who Reading are and wants them to do well for Daddy, he'll never be a fan.
by Stranded » 10 Aug 2023 12:59
RoyalBlueStrandedskipper
I wonder how much our core support changed / grew during the Coppell / McDermot years of sustained, albeit by our own standards, success. And whether we're currently riding on that fan base?
My personal fanship of Reading is because its the family home. Even though I never lived here. Both parents are born and raised Reading. So there was never any real option. Dad took me and the rest is history.
I started going just as Gilkes was coming through, and Parkinson and Caskey days. And have loved it ever since. I love our history with Robin Friday and the Simod Cup and reaching the FA quarters and producing a lot of incredible talent and doing it "the Reading way"
But most of that history is the past 40 years....
It definitely has got bigger as a result of that period and a lot of the teenagers through to late 20s now will be going as they either first went then or their parents went and dragged them a long a few years later - if we don't get success again in a realtively short period of time then the numbers will likely dwindle esp if people move on - for example, my son is turning in to a big football fan but due to him being born here, his club is Eintracht Frankfurt and whilst he knows who Reading are and wants them to do well for Daddy, he'll never be a fan.
Our granddaughter was born and lives in the USA. She will be a Reading fan, her mum will make sure of that (junior kit on its way out to the States as soon as Fanatics can be arsed to deliver it to me here), although she will probably be allowed an MLS team too.
by paultheroyal » 16 Aug 2023 10:15
Just had a quick look on the Reading message board and they are genuinely saying it’s the best they have played in years. Quick and hungry and I would agree with that. A brighter start to the second half from us though.
That said, Reading look decent, very composed on the ball. I can see them pushing for the playoffs.
Reading play some nice football mind, if they can get a bit of penetration up front they'll be a match for anyone in this league. That we had to score for them shows that we're not the only ones struggling up top.
by Pepe the Horseman » 16 Aug 2023 12:27
paultheroyalJust had a quick look on the Reading message board and they are genuinely saying it’s the best they have played in years. Quick and hungry and I would agree with that. A brighter start to the second half from us though.That said, Reading look decent, very composed on the ball. I can see them pushing for the playoffs.Reading play some nice football mind, if they can get a bit of penetration up front they'll be a match for anyone in this league. That we had to score for them shows that we're not the only ones struggling up top.
by St Pauli » 16 Aug 2023 14:23
StrandedRoyalBlueStranded
It definitely has got bigger as a result of that period and a lot of the teenagers through to late 20s now will be going as they either first went then or their parents went and dragged them a long a few years later - if we don't get success again in a realtively short period of time then the numbers will likely dwindle esp if people move on - for example, my son is turning in to a big football fan but due to him being born here, his club is Eintracht Frankfurt and whilst he knows who Reading are and wants them to do well for Daddy, he'll never be a fan.
Our granddaughter was born and lives in the USA. She will be a Reading fan, her mum will make sure of that (junior kit on its way out to the States as soon as Fanatics can be arsed to deliver it to me here), although she will probably be allowed an MLS team too.
Him being an Eintracht fan makes life easier as well, what with the wife's side of the family being Stoke fans.
by From Despair To Where? » 19 Aug 2023 19:12
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