Confimred new owners of Raeding Footbal Club

[HoneyRoastHoax]

People need to get some perspective before getting out the pitch forks.

Anton bought the club in good faith, I find it hard to believe he would invest that sort of money for a year and a half. He has had to back out, could be for a number of reasons but his money got us into the prem which ultimately is what we all wanted and got us some parachute payments.

I find it hard to believe any one on here actually has information about TSI and what their involvement, motives are.

Its fun to get caught up and passionate but some seem to be getting really angry because some twat on twitter is spreading bullshit.

[Angry Shed Sex]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

No one really knows except the club and the only piece of information the club have released recently is the directorial changes bundled together with and a few (in my opinion) condescending platitudes.

So, the speculation continues.

[CholseyRoyal]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

No one really knows except the club and the only piece of information the club have released recently is the directorial changes bundled together with and a few (in my opinion) condescending platitudes.

So, the speculation continues.

Thank you for that A.S.S the most sensible response I have seen on here for a while.

[winchester_royal]

As a previous Anton fan I can only really echo some of the above comments. To begin with Anton did a lot of good for the club. His investment that first January allowed us to bring in the likes of Roberts that pushed us towards promotion, when it was starting to look like Karl Sheppard would be our only signing of that window, and he played a big part in the push for Cat 1 status. He was also ambitious from a commercial point of view and some of his ideas weren't all bad. He funded a bid for Sig which showed he was willing to put money in and up until last September he was very passionate about the club. It's entirely understandable therefore that some choose to support him rather than immediately jumping to cynical conclusions.

As it happens the cynics have been proven right and it's all ended in tears. Does that mean his intentions weren't genuine? Of course not. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely, he's a naive young rich boy who tried too much too soon and for whatever reason we've paid the price.

Does that mean those who choose to look at the positives are 'deserving' of the current scenario? Well...I think that's a stretch to say the least.

[Norfolk Royal]

One of the many puzzling things for me is that Anton's disappearance has been referred to by some commentators as for 'personal reasons.'

If that is the case then why doesn't Anton release a statement saying that he has left for 'personal reasons.'

It wouldn't be unwise I don't think to at least allude to what those personal reasons are either. If there has been some type of personal issue that requires his full attention, and I'll leave others to speculate on what that might be, then what is the harm in saying so?

It would at least put the issue to bed and I think he would find that people were on the whole sympathetic.

[multisync1830]

One of the many puzzling things for me is that Anton's disappearance has been referred to by some commentators as for 'personal reasons.'

If that is the case then why doesn't Anton release a statement saying that he has left for 'personal reasons.'

It wouldn't be unwise I don't think to at least allude to what those personal reasons are either. If there has been some type of personal issue that requires his full attention, and I'll leave others to speculate on what that might be, then what is the harm in saying so?

It would at least put the issue to bed and I think he would find that people were on the whole sympathetic.

becuase it's basically bollox. He left for one reason and one reason only he couldn't afford to stay. he could not raise the funds when daddy took the T'bird away.

[SPARTA]

One of the many puzzling things for me is that Anton's disappearance has been referred to by some commentators as for 'personal reasons.'

If that is the case then why doesn't Anton release a statement saying that he has left for 'personal reasons.'

It wouldn't be unwise I don't think to at least allude to what those personal reasons are either. If there has been some type of personal issue that requires his full attention, and I'll leave others to speculate on what that might be, then what is the harm in saying so?

It would at least put the issue to bed and I think he would find that people were on the whole sympathetic.

becuase it's basically bollox. He left for one reason and one reason only he couldn't afford to stay. he could not raise the funds when daddy took the T'bird away.

Yep. It all comes down to Boris pulling him out and wanting him back under his watchful eye. Anton had genuine intentions for the club, just not the backing to achieve it, and ultimately left us in quite a mess.

[Wycombe Royal]

As a previous Anton fan I can only really echo some of the above comments. To begin with Anton did a lot of good for the club. His investment that first January allowed us to bring in the likes of Roberts that pushed us towards promotion, when it was starting to look like Karl Sheppard would be our only signing of that window, and he played a big part in the push for Cat 1 status. He was also ambitious from a commercial point of view and some of his ideas weren't all bad. He funded a bid for Sig which showed he was willing to put money in and up until last September he was very passionate about the club. It's entirely understandable therefore that some choose to support him rather than immediately jumping to cynical conclusions.

As it happens the cynics have been proven right and it's all ended in tears. Does that mean his intentions weren't genuine? Of course not. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely, he's a naive young rich boy who tried too much too soon and for whatever reason we've paid the price.

Does that mean those who choose to look at the positives are 'deserving' of the current scenario? Well...I think that's a stretch to say the least.

However we still don't know if it is Anton or his dad that has pulled the plug. It may be that Anton is not the one to point the finger at.

[multisync1830]

As a previous Anton fan I can only really echo some of the above comments. To begin with Anton did a lot of good for the club. His investment that first January allowed us to bring in the likes of Roberts that pushed us towards promotion, when it was starting to look like Karl Sheppard would be our only signing of that window, and he played a big part in the push for Cat 1 status. He was also ambitious from a commercial point of view and some of his ideas weren't all bad. He funded a bid for Sig which showed he was willing to put money in and up until last September he was very passionate about the club. It's entirely understandable therefore that some choose to support him rather than immediately jumping to cynical conclusions.

As it happens the cynics have been proven right and it's all ended in tears. Does that mean his intentions weren't genuine? Of course not. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely, he's a naive young rich boy who tried too much too soon and for whatever reason we've paid the price.

Does that mean those who choose to look at the positives are 'deserving' of the current scenario? Well...I think that's a stretch to say the least.

However we still don't know if it is Anton or his dad that has pulled the plug. It may be that Anton is not the one to point the finger at.

Half way through the investigation Boris was dragged into the FPP test even though he said it was nothing to do with him.

Ask yourself why that would be and that will lead you to the answer as to who was calling the shots.

or to put it another way:

Toto Wolf:
"The racing philosophy of Mercedes-Benz is to allow our drivers to compete. We let the boys play with their toys, unless they break them."

[Extended-Phenotype]

What we need is a statement from the chairman to clear things up for us.

[Silver Fox]

As for Jew Boy vs Corner Shop owner.

BTW did any of the people running around saying "I was right about Anton, you're all idiots" actually predict what has happened or just say "ooh, this will all go wrong, you mark my words" or even worse claim he was going to nick all the money, because frankly anyone can do the former and you weren't right about the latter

[multisync1830]

As for Jew Boy vs Corner Shop owner.

BTW did any of the people running around saying "I was right about Anton, you're all idiots" actually predict what has happened or just say "ooh, this will all go wrong, you mark my words" or even worse claim he was going to nick all the money, because frankly anyone can do the former and you weren't right about the latter

perhaps we should start a "I told you so thread"? otherwise we're going to get bogged down in peacocking

[Mr.Swainey]

As for Jew Boy vs Corner Shop owner.

BTW did any of the people running around saying "I was right about Anton, you're all idiots" actually predict what has happened or just say "ooh, this will all go wrong, you mark my words" or even worse claim he was going to nick all the money, because frankly anyone can do the former and you weren't right about the latter

I'm not sure how this board would have kept going without all of SPARTA's ITK information.

[P!ssed Off]

I remember morons asking me early on why I hated Anton....

at HNA FFS

I hope y'all enjoy this mess.

Ah, yes. The old 'you voted for it, you live with it'.
Except Reading fans did not actually vote on the issue, and in fact had very little say at all.
Someone expressed an opinion that may have later turned about to be incorrect: "Serves them right, they deserve everything they get."

The average fan's opinion on the takeover of Zingarevich is completely irrelevant, that was Madejski's decision.
The average fan's opinion on the sacking of McDermott is completely irrelevant, that was Zingarevich's decision.
The average fan's opinion on Sagi vs Burman is completely irrelevant, oxf*rd knows whose decision that is to be, but it will not be for the fans to decide.

Fans are merely expressing a preference. That preference is highly unlikely to have any bearing on the actual decision making process, so I'm not quite sure what exactly you are attempting to hold the fans responsible for.

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I wouldn't say that fans opinions are irrelevant. Sure they weren't involved in the decision making but IIRC, the reaction when Anton came in was highly favourable and I would have a punt at suggesting that in the region of 1 in 5 was against the sale owing to the saga with Everton.

The opinion of BMcD being sacked was about the same only that 4 out of 5 were against it.

As for Jew Boy vs Corner Shop owner, there is just not enough info to make a judgement but since when does that mean opinions are irrelevant?

What I find intriguing is that sjm is down to his last £100 million. He is after cash and quickly. The two former Directors will be after the best value that they can get for themselves and TSI or whatever vehicle they are running with. Finding a buyer prepared to deliver the funds to satisfy both parties, notwithstanding any clauses that may or may not exist (eg stadium naming rights, monthly payments etc), makes for intriguing times. Says a lot when there is more excitement off the pitch rather than on it.

Really? That is not what hobnob's own poll suggests.

[Royal Rother]

One of the many puzzling things for me is that Anton's disappearance has been referred to by some commentators as for 'personal reasons.'

If that is the case then why doesn't Anton release a statement saying that he has left for 'personal reasons.'

It wouldn't be unwise I don't think to at least allude to what those personal reasons are either. If there has been some type of personal issue that requires his full attention, and I'll leave others to speculate on what that might be, then what is the harm in saying so?

It would at least put the issue to bed and I think he would find that people were on the whole sympathetic.

becuase it's basically bollox. He left for one reason and one reason only he couldn't afford to stay. he could not raise the funds when daddy took the T'bird away.

Yep. It all comes down to Boris pulling him out and wanting him back under his watchful eye. Anton had genuine intentions for the club, just not the backing to achieve it, and ultimately left us in quite a mess.

How do you know that?

[Maguire]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

The former.

[multisync1830]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

The former.

are you are making a statement or a guess ?

[Wycombe Royal]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

The former.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has handed back his 51% as it is only worth 51p. So aprt from 51p the only thing he is giving up are his voting rights which from what we have heard he doesn't want anyway.

The main thing he will want is the loans being repaid and handing back his shares doesn't affect that and any deal for the sale of the club will see those debts cleared.

[CholseyRoyal]

Does anyone know for a fact who owns what percentage of the club's shares now?

Is it still Anton/TSI with 51% and SJM just under 49% or did Anton/TSI actually sell the 51% back to SJM for £1?

The former.

If that is the case then TSI have just as much power to veto a takeover they don't like as if they were board members.... Damn!

In fact it could really slow the whole process down as presumably a deal will be negotiated, put to the board for approval then agreed by the shareholders who will have the last say.

[Norfolk Royal]

Not sure why they would veto a deal which would see them getting their money back and that is what is on the table as I understand it.