Opposition fans back from the game - 24/25 page 225 onwards

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by Hound » 27 Oct 2024 08:44

Even take away all the ownership stuff, I think it’s great the manager and players come on the pitch and clap the fans at the end

There’s a bond there between players and fans that hadn’t been there for a long time prior to Selles. Tbf when Ince first came in (I still don’t really get all the hate for him) he actually improved this as well

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by leon » 27 Oct 2024 10:55

Hound Even take away all the ownership stuff, I think it’s great the manager and players come on the pitch and clap the fans at the end

There’s a bond there between players and fans that hadn’t been there for a long time prior to Selles. Tbf when Ince first came in (I still don’t really get all the hate for him) he actually improved this as well


Hmmm where to start with Ince…….

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by Sutekh » 27 Oct 2024 11:02

Hound Even take away all the ownership stuff, I think it’s great the manager and players come on the pitch and clap the fans at the end

There’s a bond there between players and fans that hadn’t been there for a long time prior to Selles. Tbf when Ince first came in (I still don’t really get all the hate for him) he actually improved this as well


Is that the same Ince that was utterly clueless and when his failings started catching up with the team the same Ince that started throwing the players under the bus?

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by Hound » 27 Oct 2024 13:56

Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans

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by RoyalBlue » 27 Oct 2024 15:09

Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans


IIRC he quickly forgot that when the pressure was on him!


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by Snowflake Royal » 27 Oct 2024 15:20

Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans

Recency bias.

Maybe racism. :? :o

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by Hound » 27 Oct 2024 15:45

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Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans


IIRC he quickly forgot that when the pressure was on him!


Dunno, he always seemed honest and fairly open with the fans, and still now says how good the fans were. Maybe I forget somethings he said

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by Clyde1998 » 27 Oct 2024 16:32

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From Despair To Where? Other than saying we celebrated like we'd won the cup, they reckon Forde lost them at least a point. Fairly even game.


I think he actually came closer to nearly gaining them one. Our approach completely changed the second we scored after he was sent off. We'd been creating plenty of chances and dominating the game up until then. Afterwards we simply stopped playing, with Bindon and Mengue playing at walking pace to run 20 minutes off the clock passing between each other and then hoofing it to Bristol. They suddenly stopped worrying about defending and just threw everything at it.

As for playing like it was a cup final, who was it who had their goalkeeper up for pretty much the whole last 5 minutes?


They're not saying we "played" the game like a cup final, they're saying we celebrated like we'd won a cup final. A bit like the Burton manager a few weeks ago they don't understand that our players walk around the whole pitch every home win to thank the fans. They're not as special as they think they are.

IIRC, they did the lap around the pitch when we lost to Leyton Orient and the few last season. So they do it for every home game - regardless of result.

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by RoyalBlue » 27 Oct 2024 16:52

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Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans


IIRC he quickly forgot that when the pressure was on him!


Dunno, he always seemed honest and fairly open with the fans, and still now says how good the fans were. Maybe I forget somethings he said


Maybe I'm misremembering things but I'm sure he turned on the fans at one point. He also claimed he couldn't be held responsible for anything that went wrong, as well as picked on and publicly called out individual players, which didn't exactly endear him to supporters.


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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Oct 2024 17:26

Ince worked for us when we on that winning streak, he also got us Tom Ince (who, despite it all, attitude aside, was a life-raft on our rapidly sinking ship)….however, he was never one to ‘bond’ with the backroom staff at the MS (Spizz, a little bit itk there courtesy of an employee family member).
Despite his arrogance, I expected little different, and I didn’t get too hysterical everytime that he called-out one of our players that wasn’t fully committed to the club on a matchday.

He”s gone, it’s cyclic, we have a good-un right now, but we will have plenty more wrong-uns in years to come.

Let it go.

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by Snowflake Royal » 27 Oct 2024 17:28

AthleticoSpizz Ince worked for us when we on that winning streak, he also got us Tom Ince (who, despite it all, attitude aside, was a life-raft on our rapidly sinking ship)….however, he was never one to ‘bond’ with the backroom staff at the MS (Spizz, a little itk there).
Despite his arrogance, I expected little different, and I didn’t get too hysterical everytime that he called-out one of our players that wasn’t fully committed to the club on a matchday.

He”s gone, it’s cyclic, we have a good-un right now, but we will have plenty more wrong-uns in years to come.

Let it go.

Tom got us Paul, not the other way round.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Oct 2024 17:33

Tom was only on loan, it was the other, “other way round” actually :lol:

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by Snowflake Royal » 27 Oct 2024 18:03

AthleticoSpizz Tom was only on loan, it was the other, “other way round” actually :lol:

The dates speak for themselves Spizz, it's why it was a joke that we were so desperate and badly run that we just appointed one of the player's dads.


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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Oct 2024 18:14

Oh, sorry…Ian does jokes :shock: ?

Those dates? Ftr (and just in case anybody else assumed Ian was being serious….) Paul was appointed manager May 2022, Tom signed June 2022, he was only on loan until then.


Remember Paul answering to a question “will Tom now sign for us?”

Paul replies “Thomas doesn’t have a choice”

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by Brogue » 27 Oct 2024 19:08

Ince also said he would only take the job if there was some Organizatio behind the scenes I.e scouting. So I think he do some good stuff for us. I remeber pauno saying he did the scouting the player negotiations the contract everything. Ince bought some good things to the club tbf.

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by Royal_jimmy » 27 Oct 2024 19:45

Any clubs commenting on that should understand we've been on the brink of extinction. Any win might well be our last

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by leon » 28 Oct 2024 00:02

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Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans

Recency bias.

Maybe racism. :? :o


ok I'm assuming this is a joke.

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by Snowflake Royal » 28 Oct 2024 08:34

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Hound Don’t get me wrong, he was pretty useless as a manager. But some people generally seem to hate the guy; or maybe that’s just Twitter

Just another Clement, Pauno, Gomes for me - out of their depth with the odd good idea and unable to turn it round when things went wrong

He did however seem to understand the importance of the relationship with fans

Recency bias.

Maybe racism. :? :o


ok I'm assuming this is a joke.

What gave you a hint leon?

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by Armadillo Roadkill » 28 Oct 2024 08:36

He kept on picking his own son...who was by far the best player available at the time.

He kept warning survival was the goal and that anything could happen...then it did happen (points deduction).

He said the club was broken behind the scenes and no manager could succeed...so we got big changes off the pitch that eventually identified and recruited Selles.

He constantly praised the fans, but told them to be understanding of the challenges faced by the players and to be supportive...then we all understood what he meant when the circumstances became clear..

He was tactically naive, he once said he didn't really believe in coaching :shock: , and when he went it was time for him to go. But some of the accusations levelled at him are totally unwarranted. He was an honest guy doing his best under ridiculous conditions.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game - 24/25 page 225 onwards

by ILoveMoonPig » 28 Oct 2024 09:02

AthleticoSpizz He”s gone, it’s cyclic, we have a good-un right now, but we will have plenty more wrong-uns in years to come.

Let it go.


Woah woah woah, this is HNA, we don't do calm and sensible, here.

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