Opposition fans back from the game - 24/25 page 225 onwards

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game - 24/25 page 225 onwards

by Snowflake Royal » 02 Jan 2025 08:32

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Usual deluded know nothing comments. How were they stolen exactly, did Brian Carey knock them out and lock them in his SUV after training one day when no one was looking or were they out of contract and preferred the greater chance of eventually playing at a higher level one day rather than fighting to avoid the drop year after year in a 3rd world stadium? Probably on more dosh but not without approval of the FL.

Bit of humility wouldn't go amiss. You're in danger of a jimmy everyone else in L1 is tinpot attitude.

Cambridge are in a bad place, and that's largely because we've nabbed their goalscorers. Reasonable to be resentful.

Tbh I think it's often other fans who need a bit of humility. I reminds me of when we were competing with West Ham and started saying that Pardew had betrayed us, we almost saw them as a rival. And for quite a while they were underperforming at the same time we were peaking and so it felt even more like that.

It's only with hindsight you realise they're a different stratosphere of club to whom we're an irrelevance. It's the same with some clubs down here.

Yes, we all deserve to be in this league, and our off pitch situation remains very concerning. But we're a big club at this level and of course players will want to join us. If Cambridge fans can't see that they're probably being blinded by emotion over reason.

I don't like talking in those terms, but being a "big club" in your league matters. It's how we've been able to pull together a good team without paying any transfer fee.


Humility all round would be good yes, the bigger the club the more needed generally.

We had a problem with West Ham and Pardew because at the time we were on a level playing field, Pardew had just openly commited to the club long term at a fans forum and West Ham's 'Mr Clean' top dog openly admitted live on the BBC they would tap him up in a way that was unacceptable.

At the time and for quite a long period after we were genuine league rivals competing for the same things.

It's completely different.

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by Orion1871 » 02 Jan 2025 08:44

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cambridgeunitedfc.proboards.com I have a big hatred for Reading and those two scoring three against us sums up why. Stole both from us with higher wages and failed to pay their non paying staff. Cheats.


Usual deluded know nothing comments. How were they stolen exactly, did Brian Carey knock them out and lock them in his SUV after training one day when no one was looking or were they out of contract and preferred the greater chance of eventually playing at a higher level one day rather than fighting to avoid the drop year after year in a 3rd world stadium? Probably on more dosh but not without approval of the FL.


Bit of humility wouldn't go amiss. You're in danger of a jimmy everyone else in L1 is tinpot attitude.

Cambridge are in a bad place, and that's largely because we've nabbed their goalscorers. Reasonable to be resentful.


Butler, Kitson, now Knibbs and Smith. You'd have thought Cambridge would be used to us nabbing their goalscorers by now.
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Re: Opposition fans back from the game - 24/25 page 225 onwards

by tidus_mi2 » 02 Jan 2025 09:10

I do get annoyed at fans of other clubs thinking they know our situation when they are in actual fact, clueless but I do sometimes wonder if we should be doing more to curb our expenditure. Since we haven't published our accounts, I have no idea what our wages actually are but I would assume we are probably around the mid to higher range in the division when it comes to average wage while the main expenditure that is causing us to make monthly loses are most likely the commitment to a Cat 1 academy, as well as the costs associated with our facilities, namely the training ground and the stadium.

Not sure what we can do in that regard other than drastically lowering our wages, getting relegated and as a result having our incoming reduced even further, while our upkeep remains relatively unchanged.

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by Snowflake Royal » 02 Jan 2025 09:21

Not signing anyone and selling about 7 players in the last 18 months is probably about the best we could do, short of down grading the Academy.

Safe to say most at the club were blissfully unaware Dai would pull all funding and refuse to sell the club for almost two years at the point we were signing Wing, Knibbs, Smith, Savage, Elliott et al in summer 2023.


We've got enough of our own idiots to know you shouldn't judge a club by its more vocally bitter fans.

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by Clyde1998 » 02 Jan 2025 09:57

tidus_mi2 I do get annoyed at fans of other clubs thinking they know our situation when they are in actual fact, clueless but I do sometimes wonder if we should be doing more to curb our expenditure. Since we haven't published our accounts, I have no idea what our wages actually are but I would assume we are probably around the mid to higher range in the division when it comes to average wage while the main expenditure that is causing us to make monthly loses are most likely the commitment to a Cat 1 academy, as well as the costs associated with our facilities, namely the training ground and the stadium.

Not sure what we can do in that regard other than drastically lowering our wages, getting relegated and as a result having our incoming reduced even further, while our upkeep remains relatively unchanged.

On the flip side, our revenues will be around the top six - although obviously not in the Birmingham, Derby, Bolton, etc. range.

We've averaged around 13k at home since relegation to League One, compared to the median of 8.5k for the division. That's similar to Charlton and Barnsley, who will have budgets to compete for the top six in this division.

I imagine we do better in commercial revenue than most clubs in the division too, due to being in higher divisions than most clubs until recently and having a larger fanbase than a lot of other clubs in League One.

Attracting players will be easier for us with facilities basically no other side in this division could better (especially the training ground).

To me the only real cost we've got beyond what a typical League One side would have (relative to revenue) is the Category One academy, although that's effectively where a lot of the money we would be spending on transfers and first team player wages is going and gives us player sale opportunities (often at a higher rate than would be typical for the league).


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by bakerlou » 04 Jan 2025 18:35

If you search for "Charlton Athletic online fans", you have to drop quite a long way down the list to get a Charlton Athletic online fan forum.

All of the top hits are links to Madelene Wright (former Charlton Athletic Ladies player and now glamour model) and her OnlyFans account.

I'll let you know if / when I get to today's football.

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by Royal_jimmy » 04 Jan 2025 19:35

A lot of their fans on social media moaning that the ref screwed them over.

If only they had seen the treatment we've had from officials all season!

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by Linden Jones' Tash » 04 Jan 2025 19:52

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tidus_mi2 I do get annoyed at fans of other clubs thinking they know our situation when they are in actual fact, clueless but I do sometimes wonder if we should be doing more to curb our expenditure. Since we haven't published our accounts, I have no idea what our wages actually are but I would assume we are probably around the mid to higher range in the division when it comes to average wage while the main expenditure that is causing us to make monthly loses are most likely the commitment to a Cat 1 academy, as well as the costs associated with our facilities, namely the training ground and the stadium.

Not sure what we can do in that regard other than drastically lowering our wages, getting relegated and as a result having our incoming reduced even further, while our upkeep remains relatively unchanged.

On the flip side, our revenues will be around the top six - although obviously not in the Birmingham, Derby, Bolton, etc. range.

We've averaged around 13k at home since relegation to League One, compared to the median of 8.5k for the division. That's similar to Charlton and Barnsley, who will have budgets to compete for the top six in this division.

I imagine we do better in commercial revenue than most clubs in the division too, due to being in higher divisions than most clubs until recently and having a larger fanbase than a lot of other clubs in League One.

Attracting players will be easier for us with facilities basically no other side in this division could better (especially the training ground).

To me the only real cost we've got beyond what a typical League One side would have (relative to revenue) is the Category One academy, although that's effectively where a lot of the money we would be spending on transfers and first team player wages is going and gives us player sale opportunities (often at a higher rate than would be typical for the league).


Charlton's accounts show an annual loss of £10M - so they need to be funded at that level just to be mid table.

I'd be surprised if Reading are in a better position than this - hence the need for significant external funding

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by Hound » 04 Jan 2025 20:02

Royal_jimmy A lot of their fans on social media moaning that the ref screwed them over.

If only they had seen the treatment we've had from officials all season!


Thought he was ok. The Mbengue thing was a bit weird but he prob was fouled before his yellow.

Not sure on our penalty appeals - would have to see back


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by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Jan 2025 20:39

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tidus_mi2 I do get annoyed at fans of other clubs thinking they know our situation when they are in actual fact, clueless but I do sometimes wonder if we should be doing more to curb our expenditure. Since we haven't published our accounts, I have no idea what our wages actually are but I would assume we are probably around the mid to higher range in the division when it comes to average wage while the main expenditure that is causing us to make monthly loses are most likely the commitment to a Cat 1 academy, as well as the costs associated with our facilities, namely the training ground and the stadium.

Not sure what we can do in that regard other than drastically lowering our wages, getting relegated and as a result having our incoming reduced even further, while our upkeep remains relatively unchanged.

On the flip side, our revenues will be around the top six - although obviously not in the Birmingham, Derby, Bolton, etc. range.

We've averaged around 13k at home since relegation to League One, compared to the median of 8.5k for the division. That's similar to Charlton and Barnsley, who will have budgets to compete for the top six in this division.

I imagine we do better in commercial revenue than most clubs in the division too, due to being in higher divisions than most clubs until recently and having a larger fanbase than a lot of other clubs in League One.

Attracting players will be easier for us with facilities basically no other side in this division could better (especially the training ground).

To me the only real cost we've got beyond what a typical League One side would have (relative to revenue) is the Category One academy, although that's effectively where a lot of the money we would be spending on transfers and first team player wages is going and gives us player sale opportunities (often at a higher rate than would be typical for the league).


Charlton's accounts show an annual loss of £10M - so they need to be funded at that level just to be mid table.

I'd be surprised if Reading are in a better position than this - hence the need for significant external funding

That is not required to be mid table. They're underperforming as a club and should be top 6 in this league without needing to spend more.

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by Snowflake Royal » 04 Jan 2025 22:05

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Royal_jimmy A lot of their fans on social media moaning that the ref screwed them over.

If only they had seen the treatment we've had from officials all season!


Thought he was ok. The Mbengue thing was a bit weird but he prob was fouled before his yellow.

Not sure on our penalty appeals - would have to see back

I can't see how either could be given, no attempt to make themselves bigger and went at them like a rocket from close range. Even if it hit an arm for either, which I'm not positive.

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by Clyde1998 » 05 Jan 2025 09:18

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Clyde1998 On the flip side, our revenues will be around the top six - although obviously not in the Birmingham, Derby, Bolton, etc. range.

We've averaged around 13k at home since relegation to League One, compared to the median of 8.5k for the division. That's similar to Charlton and Barnsley, who will have budgets to compete for the top six in this division.

I imagine we do better in commercial revenue than most clubs in the division too, due to being in higher divisions than most clubs until recently and having a larger fanbase than a lot of other clubs in League One.

Attracting players will be easier for us with facilities basically no other side in this division could better (especially the training ground).

To me the only real cost we've got beyond what a typical League One side would have (relative to revenue) is the Category One academy, although that's effectively where a lot of the money we would be spending on transfers and first team player wages is going and gives us player sale opportunities (often at a higher rate than would be typical for the league).


Charlton's accounts show an annual loss of £10M - so they need to be funded at that level just to be mid table.

I'd be surprised if Reading are in a better position than this - hence the need for significant external funding

That is not required to be mid table. They're underperforming as a club and should be top 6 in this league without needing to spend more.

Charlton had an awful season last time, especially given their squad and budget - did worse on the pitch than we did!

They had a bit of a patchy start this season, but results have improved over the past six games - including beating Wycombe. I can see them being in the play-off picture come May (although not expecting them to be in the play-offs at this stage), depending on what happens with transfers.

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by Mr Angry » 06 Jan 2025 16:29

bakerlou If you search for "Charlton Athletic online fans", you have to drop quite a long way down the list to get a Charlton Athletic online fan forum.

All of the top hits are links to Madelene Wright (former Charlton Athletic Ladies player and now glamour model) and her OnlyFans account.

I'll let you know if / when I get to today's football.


I found their fans forum; they barely mention us at all - a few comments that we were decent and our keeper was lucky to be in the right place at the right time (er.......isn't that his job?) but mainly about their toothless attack and having a go at the ref.

But........you really appreciate Hob Nob when you go onto these other sites; they look as if they haven't evolved since they were first created in about 2001!


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by Royals and Racers » 01 Feb 2025 18:33

Bolton fans travelled in number- so be interesting what they thought of our ‘ lucky win ‘ :D

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by Crowbar6753 » 01 Feb 2025 19:31

Royals and Racers Bolton fans travelled in number- so be interesting what they thought of our ‘ lucky win ‘ :D


To be fair, they were pretty loud as well. Good support and noise from the NOTLOB fans :D

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by Royal_jimmy » 01 Feb 2025 20:38

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Royals and Racers Bolton fans travelled in number- so be interesting what they thought of our ‘ lucky win ‘ :D


To be fair, they were pretty loud as well. Good support and noise from the NOTLOB fans :D


Bolton fans are generally a decent bunch to be fair. Bought a lot to us which is a long journey and made noise. Also a club who have had problems of their own and who we once played in the premier league. They're one of the few clubs in league one who I have respect for.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 01 Feb 2025 20:49

Kind’ve agree

If only it wasn’t for that tw4t Jason McAteer 30 years ago

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by Sutekh » 02 Feb 2025 08:07

AthleticoSpizz Kind’ve agree

If only it wasn’t for that tw4t Jason McAteer 30 years ago


It wasn’t his fault he didn’t get sent off, though he did his best.

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by Mr Angry » 02 Feb 2025 20:25

Had a quick look at the Bolton foans forum.

A couple of "how did we contrive to lose that game" comments, and not happy with their finishing, but few actual comments about us...

"Reading's passing and possession were admirable"

"The game was scrappy, on a shit surface"

"Reading didn't do much that we didn't hand to them"

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by Royals and Racers » 16 Feb 2025 07:36

Any gems from the Rotherham fans after their injury time defeat. ?

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