The truth about Royston...

[Royal Lady]

I mean he is given nothing to encourage him to change his attitude (if it needs changing) - paying him his high wages and just dumping him to train with U21s isn't going to make him think I must prove myself here and prove the others wrong. He's not being given the chance to. And I'll repeat, if he has done some of the things people have accused him off, Nigel would have terminated his contract before now.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Maybe Nigel has tried to change his attitude for a year & has thought the rest of the squad & the development of the youngsters has to take priority at this point.

I'm guessing he has bigger fish to fry now & is no longer under pressure from the board to keep this guy in the team.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Again, I've not mentioned drugs at all RL that is from others.

I do find it quite puzzling / funny that all of us have seen how unfit he is yet some are looking for some kind of conspiracy / stick to beat Adkins with.

Just strange - the bloke couldn't even last one half.

As for terminating his contract, if a player doesn't keep to a personal fitness regime as they should & is therefore never match fit, that might not be strong enough grounds to actually dismiss them providing they actually turn up for training. Even if they are a passenger during the training sessions.

Only Drenthe can get himself fit - no one else can do it for him.

[Royal Biscuitman]

just dumping him to train with U21s isn't going to make him think I must prove myself here and prove the others wrong.

There's always a risk he might have a detrimental effect on the development of the U21's as well.

[Extended-Phenotype]

As for terminating his contract, if a player doesn't keep to a personal fitness regime as they should & is therefore never match fit, that might not be strong enough grounds to actually dismiss them providing they actually turn up for training.

It is. If you are not able to play because of personal conditioning, that is breach of contract. You can't sign a 3 year professional contract, go "Ha ha FUK you guys, I'm actually a COMPLETE TOOL!" and then just go down the pub and get smashed every night, eat Burger King every day, put on 10 stone and turn up to training if and when you choose with a hooker on your arm and a reefer in your gob.

[Brum Royal]

Anyone (strap?) got a record of how many games he has played for us, and what's the longest (no. of minutes) game he's played?

[P!ssed Off]

Anyone (strap?) got a record of how many games he has played for us, and what's the longest (no. of minutes) game he's played?

http://www.espnfc.com/player/105391/royston-drenthe

Though this doesn't include his debut against Ipswich where he played 79 minutes.
He's played 3 full league games for us.

[Brum Royal]

It's not a lot is it. One 86 minute game, and otherwise from a starter somewhere in the 70s minutes.

[maffff]

As for terminating his contract, if a player doesn't keep to a personal fitness regime as they should & is therefore never match fit, that might not be strong enough grounds to actually dismiss them providing they actually turn up for training.

It is. If you are not able to play because of personal conditioning, that is breach of contract. You can't sign a 3 year professional contract, go "Ha ha FUK you guys, I'm actually a COMPLETE TOOL!" and then just go down the pub and get smashed every night, eat Burger King every day, put on 10 stone and turn up to training if and when you choose with a hooker on your arm and a reefer in your gob.

Yeah.

[Pepe the Horseman]

You look like you've lost weight, maffff.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Yeah, nice sig

[strap]

Anyone (strap?) got a record of how many games he has played for us, and what's the longest (no. of minutes) game he's played?

http://www.espnfc.com/player/105391/royston-drenthe

Though this doesn't include his debut against Ipswich where he played 79 minutes.
He's played 3 full league games for us.

Well according to my stats he's made 17 starts and 6 sub apps in the league and a solitary sub app in the FAC. Of the 17 starts he's been subbed 14 times!

His total time on the pitch is 1,459 minutes, which gives an average of 61 minutes per performance.

Splitting out subs and starts, he's made 17 starts for a total of 1,271 minutes, so when starting he does average about 75 minutes per game.

[Hoop Blah]

As for terminating his contract, if a player doesn't keep to a personal fitness regime as they should & is therefore never match fit, that might not be strong enough grounds to actually dismiss them providing they actually turn up for training.

It is. If you are not able to play because of personal conditioning, that is breach of contract. You can't sign a 3 year professional contract, go "Ha ha FUK you guys, I'm actually a COMPLETE TOOL!" and then just go down the pub and get smashed every night, eat Burger King every day, put on 10 stone and turn up to training if and when you choose with a hooker on your arm and a reefer in your gob.

Proving to some form of tribunal if he's fit enough or not is probably quite difficult.

There are plenty of players who appear to be fit enough who never get sacked for it so I can't imagine it's really possibly in the real world.

[Ian Royal]

In what possible way would the new owners want to keep Drenthe, manager doesn't want him, he's not playing, he's been banished to train with the under 21s and he costs a fortune. Who in their right mind would take over a club and want to keep a player like that?

And I will still stick up for Drenthe until I have definitive proof that his being banished to the under 21s is nothing more than Adkins childish attempt to try and have some managerial "influence" because he didn't want him or sign him in the first place. IF all these stories were true, including taking coke, which is libellous without any proof whatsoever, by the way, we'd have got rid of him by terminating his contract.

He broke into Everton's training ground to screw some women and they didn't sack him. It's not that clear cut. Especially if its a genuine addiction. Terminating contracts is difficult even outside the dodgy football environment.

[Royal Biscuitman]

In what possible way would the new owners want to keep Drenthe, manager doesn't want him, he's not playing, he's been banished to train with the under 21s and he costs a fortune. Who in their right mind would take over a club and want to keep a player like that?

And I will still stick up for Drenthe until I have definitive proof that his being banished to the under 21s is nothing more than Adkins childish attempt to try and have some managerial "influence" because he didn't want him or sign him in the first place. IF all these stories were true, including taking coke, which is libellous without any proof whatsoever, by the way, we'd have got rid of him by terminating his contract.

He broke into Everton's training ground to screw some women and they didn't sack him. It's not that clear cut. Especially if its a genuine addiction. Terminating contracts is difficult even outside the dodgy football environment.

Why were there women locked inside Everton's training ground?

[Ian Royal]

In what possible way would the new owners want to keep Drenthe, manager doesn't want him, he's not playing, he's been banished to train with the under 21s and he costs a fortune. Who in their right mind would take over a club and want to keep a player like that?

And I will still stick up for Drenthe until I have definitive proof that his being banished to the under 21s is nothing more than Adkins childish attempt to try and have some managerial "influence" because he didn't want him or sign him in the first place. IF all these stories were true, including taking coke, which is libellous without any proof whatsoever, by the way, we'd have got rid of him by terminating his contract.

He broke into Everton's training ground to screw some women and they didn't sack him. It's not that clear cut. Especially if its a genuine addiction. Terminating contracts is difficult even outside the dodgy football environment.

Why were there women locked inside Everton's training ground?

Fellaini is a canibal. It's his larder.

[Uke]

He's been given nothing to make him work his socks off in training - he could do that every day and Adkins won't play him.

As others have said, either terminate his contract for breach of contract due to all these supposed things he has done, or treat him like any other player and if he proves himself in training, with the first team, then give him a go in the team. If it is the case that the other players refuse to work with him, he must have done something wrong,in which case, sack him.

Sorry what the hell are you talking about RL?! He was presumably given a decent contract at Reading last summer!!!! Or does that constitute nothing? We saved him from the footballing wilderness where he had already been ditched by a no mark Russian club so I’d say that’s a decent incentive to do well no??

He wasn't match fit in August last season & never has been for his entire tenure here. Adkins has put up with his BS for an entire year & now Anton has fcuked off & Nigel has control again he’s probably thought “Do you know what mate, there are 18 year olds here more professional than you are so I’m fcuked if I’m picking you again. Now do one you complete cnut”

Fair play to him. The bloke is a useless waster who should do the honourable thing & get the fcuk out of our club.

Adkins was playing him & giving him chances right up to April – FACT.

He has had MORE than enough time.

Presumably Adkins is legally obliged to give him training facilities etc hence the inclusion with the kids.

^^ This

Also his regular pay, less any possible deductions for failing to train, etc. may well total to less than a potential 'loss of earnings' legal case following what he claims may have been constructive dismissal.

Adkins is now firmly back in charge.

Drenthe is dead to RFC

[VlakvarkAsh]

Honestly from glimpses last year he could of been a really important player for years to come; it's a shame he has terrible work rate and attitude. Will be unfortunate if he gets shipped out, I'd like to see Adkins turn him around.

[Royal Biscuitman]

[resumably Adkins is legally obliged to give him training facilities etc hence the inclusion with the kids.

I'd be tempted to tell Drenthe he doesn't have to come to training and let him sit at home getting fatter and more unfit, in fact I'd tell him he doesn't even have to be in the country.

[leon]

[resumably Adkins is legally obliged to give him training facilities etc hence the inclusion with the kids.

I'd be tempted to tell Drenthe he doesn't have to come to training and let him sit at home getting fatter and more unfit, in fact I'd tell him he doesn't even have to be in the country.

Before you know it he'd be on the Hurrell thread talking about Pointless contestants.