Brian: The right decision?

[windermere_royal]

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[Avon Royal]

For the love of God, not this again. Why not have a discussion on exhuming the body of Maurice Evans? too? Mcdermott has gone; his real test wil be at Leeds next year and the scumbag supporters who follow them if Mcdermott has a string of bad results (sleeping giants my arse, they are no one these days) Adkins has to assemble his, oh you know what, I really can't be bothered with this irrelevent thread any longer...I strongly suggest you good people move on as well.

You don't really get the point of a discussion forum do you?

[jellytot]

NA is getting more out of our poor pl squad than BM did. You need a more possessive style in the pl
Something BM did not properly address.

He has gone! So please as Brian would say 'and we MOVE ON'. He has but some of you on here dont seem to want to! Get a grip!

[glass half full]

You mean the set of players that HE assembled?

Any perceived lack of talent in the team can't be used as a defence for Brian - he put that team together and he wasted the money in the summer.

And how much did we spend relative to the other promoted clubs?

Crystal Palace and Huddersfield would/will go up with Championship teams and come straight back down through little fault of their managers as well.

Huddersfield? I take it you've not be following the Championship too closely this season.

Did he mean Hull?

[creative_username_1]

5 points out of 32

[maffff]

Yes

[Snowball]

Adkins has


Settled the goalkeeper issue

Turned Karacan into a ball-player

Got Guthrie to play and show his (relative) brilliance

Discovered Gunter is actually a decent player who will be a lot better next year

Got rid of the too-slow or couldn't care problem at left-back

Made our football streets better in terms of "joy to watch"


Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

[sandman]

Adkins has


Settled the goalkeeper issue

Turned Karacan into a ball-player

Got Guthrie to play and show his (relative) brilliance

Discovered Gunter is actually a decent player who will be a lot better next year

Got rid of the too-slow or couldn't care problem at left-back

Made our football streets better in terms of "joy to watch"


Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

We haven't had a goalkeeper issue apart from injuries which the medical staff have sorted out not the manager.

Karacan has done ok but he's not exactly turned into Xavi. Most of his passes still go sideways.

A couple of 7/10 performances still has an attitude problem.

Gunter has still leaves a lot to be desired.

He hasn't sorted out the left back position just given himself a different problem.

Our football would be a lot more joyous to watch if we did the passing in the oppositions half.

Adkins has made a solid start don't get me wrong but he still has work to do and today was seemingly a prime example of that.

[winchester_royal]

I like the way we're shaping up going into next season, and think we'll do very well, but there is still plenty of work to be done. Big summer coming up for Nige and co, but I think the past 8 games will have aided him hugely in terms of knowing what changes need to be made.

[Woodcote Royal]

Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

So, with just the one pathetic victory against a team who clearly had one eye on the summer break, you see Adkin's as ahead of McDermott despite him finishing second to his rival last season with a superior team, and you being happy to see him finish a mere second next season despite everyone expecting him to be blessed with the kind of budget McDermott could only dream about

I'm all for attractive football but it's worth the square route of fcuk all if it fails to produce the desired results.

As I've said before, I have high hopes for Adkins but, so far, McDermott seems capable of getting rather more from the same resources.

Simply, Adkin's has produced NOTHING so far to suggest he is any way superior to McDermott and that includes another FOUR goals conceded today against a team who had nothing to play for.

[Wimb]

Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

So, with just the one pathetic victory against a team who clearly had one eye on the summer break, you see Adkin's as ahead of McDermott despite him finishing second to his rival last season with a superior team, and you being happy to see him finish a mere second next season despite everyone expecting him to be blessed with the kind of budget McDermott could only dream about

I'm all for attractive football but it's worth the square route of fcuk all if it fails to produce the desired results.

As I've said before, I have high hopes for Adkins but, so far, McDermott seems capable of getting rather more from the same resources.

Simply, Adkin's has produced NOTHING so far to suggest he is any way superior to McDermott and that includes another FOUR goals conceded today against a team who had nothing to play for.

The difference being that McDermott was working with a squad he'd assembled and coached for years to play in his way, which was an extension of the Pardew/Coppell way.

When you have the likes of Morrison openly saying he's never been taught to play out from the back before, you get a sense of how hard it must be for that group of players to suddenly adopt Adkins philosophy, especially when a large chunk of that squad must know they're going elsewhere.

I don't think Adkins has pulled up trees since he's been here results wise but there seems to be some sort of plan to progress in place, something that you just didn't feel was happening with Brian who time and time again went back to the same dire formula.

Of course he could well have changed that in the summer with the appropriate investment, that we'll never know, but I actually feel the club is moving forward.

[jellytot]

From the moment NA arrived it was all about assessing the squad ahead of next season. We have been
Down for a long long time. NA and BM have two different styles. As has been said above
NA is working with BM's players. A fair assessment of how we are doing should be made in
12 months.

Early signs are good. We should be aspiring to be.promotion contenders. At least NA does not have to waste time assessing. Now is the time to get players out and in july get in a few to freshen things up.
His appointment was all about saving time. The next three months are vital now. Our squad come the end of August will be interesting!

[Cypry]

Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

So, with just the one pathetic victory against a team who clearly had one eye on the summer break, you see Adkin's as ahead of McDermott despite him finishing second to his rival last season with a superior team, and you being happy to see him finish a mere second next season despite everyone expecting him to be blessed with the kind of budget McDermott could only dream about

I'm all for attractive football but it's worth the square route of fcuk all if it fails to produce the desired results.

As I've said before, I have high hopes for Adkins but, so far, McDermott seems capable of getting rather more from the same resources.

Simply, Adkin's has produced NOTHING so far to suggest he is any way superior to McDermott and that includes another FOUR goals conceded today against a team who had nothing to play for.

And therein lies the problem - I have it from a very reliable source that AZ was "practically begging" McD to spend more last Summer, but McD said he was happy with what he had....same in January.....

It was his failure to spend that cost Brian his job.....

[Schards#2]

Sorry, but in marks out of ten Adkins is 2-3 ahead of Brian and I expect us to be top two next season if we don't lose too many

So, with just the one pathetic victory against a team who clearly had one eye on the summer break, you see Adkin's as ahead of McDermott despite him finishing second to his rival last season with a superior team, and you being happy to see him finish a mere second next season despite everyone expecting him to be blessed with the kind of budget McDermott could only dream about

I'm all for attractive football but it's worth the square route of fcuk all if it fails to produce the desired results.

As I've said before, I have high hopes for Adkins but, so far, McDermott seems capable of getting rather more from the same resources.

Simply, Adkin's has produced NOTHING so far to suggest he is any way superior to McDermott and that includes another FOUR goals conceded today against a team who had nothing to play for.

Errr......yes

[winchester_royal]

'Getting rather more from his resources'? So 0.1 ppg is 'rather more'?

FTR, I really don't think that 29 games with a squad that was entirely of McD's making that were used to plying the style of football he was asking them to play V 8 games with a squad Nige had no influence in putting together and whom he was asking to play an almost alien style of football because that was the remit he was given when offered the job is reasonable grounds for comparison just yet.

There have been vast improvements in several of the individuals who Bri struggled to get the best out of, and if we can invest smartly this window and mould those individuals into a team that plays attractive, winning football (which NA has shown consistently in the past he is capable of doing) then next year will be a lot of fun. You only have to listen to how the players' attitudes have changed since he came in to realise the effect he's had. Even if that hasn't transformed into a statistical improvement just yet, there are more grounds for optimism than negativity.

Any comparison between the two is impossible until December at the very least.

[Handsome Man]

Adkins hasn't had a very good start, but he deserves to be given a chance. His team doesn't currently look like getting too many wins before Christmas, but give him time to find the right way to play.

[Schards#2]

Adkins hasn't had a very good start, but he deserves to be given a chance. His team doesn't currently look like getting too many wins before Christmas, but give him time to find the right way to play.

Could not disagree more.

Our performances have improved in 6 -7 weeks and before Adkins has bought a single player. Given a summer with the squad, some of his own players being brought in and the fact that we will be playing against teams of far lower quality,I would expect us to be top or thereabouts by Christmas.

Adkins has 4 promotions in 6 seasons managing in the football league, the two he wasn't promoted were managing Scunthorpe in the championship.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Adkins hasn't had a very good start, but he deserves to be given a chance. His team doesn't currently look like getting too many wins before Christmas, but give him time to find the right way to play.

Could not disagree more.

Our performances have improved in 6 -7 weeks and before Adkins has bought a single player. Given a summer with the squad, some of his own players being brought in and the fact that we will be playing against teams of far lower quality,I would expect us to be top or thereabouts by Christmas.

Adkins has 4 promotions in 6 seasons managing in the football league, the two he wasn't promoted were managing Scunthorpe in the championship.

Also don't forget than one of the other 2 seasons was a relegation with Scunthorpe from whcich they immediately bounced back so NA has quite useful experience for our current predicament.

Going to be b****y hard next year though.

[melonhead]

Adkins hasn't had a very good start, but he deserves to be given a chance. His team doesn't currently look like getting too many wins before Christmas, but give him time to find the right way to play.

Could not disagree more.

Our performances have improved in 6 -7 weeks and before Adkins has bought a single player. Given a summer with the squad, some of his own players being brought in and the fact that we will be playing against teams of far lower quality,I would expect us to be top or thereabouts by Christmas.

Adkins has 4 promotions in 6 seasons managing in the football league, the two he wasn't promoted were managing Scunthorpe in the championship.

cant argue that watching us lose is now much more entertaining and pleasing on the eye
but we are still losing.

like him, think hes got what it takes to make a good fist of next season, but lets see us win a few first before going mental

[Ian Royal]

I can't see McAnuff, McCleary or Robson-Kanu leaving. And if we play the same way as we have been, they will absolutely destroy Championship defences. Guthrie and Karacan are good enough to hold their own against Championship midfields at least. Pog and ALF are capable of getting close to 20 goals. Federici and McCarthy are two fo the best keepers you'll see next season. Our defence and lack of depth upfront are our biggest weakness. And Mariappa, Kelly and Gunter are all amongst the best defenders at that level, so all we really need there is a left back and someone to challenge Morro.

Gorkss looks a spent force.