#SellBeforeWeDai Action/Inaction Group

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by RoyalBlue » 26 Aug 2023 11:22

Stranded Also confirmed that RBC have a covenant on the land where there stadium is, meaning it can only ever be used for a stadium. An application can be made to change it but it would be opposed by the council.


Whilst this is certainly a whole lot better than nothing, displaying my usual cynical attitude towards politicians, what prevents those in power at the time being persuaded/encouraged not to oppose plans, particularly if there is substantial planning gain offered?

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Snowflake Royal » 26 Aug 2023 12:15

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Stranded Also confirmed that RBC have a covenant on the land where there stadium is, meaning it can only ever be used for a stadium. An application can be made to change it but it would be opposed by the council.


Whilst this is certainly a whole lot better than nothing, displaying my usual cynical attitude towards politicians, what prevents those in power at the time being persuaded/encouraged not to oppose plans, particularly if there is substantial planning gain offered?

Same as for literally anything. Nothing but public perception and activisim.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Sutekh » 07 Sep 2023 14:30

So has everyone given up on this now as Reading actually won a game last month or are things still happening and being planned but no-one's telling anyone about them for fear of abuse from those armchair "can't be arsed" fans that don't like whatever idea it is?

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by RoyalBlue » 07 Sep 2023 14:45

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Stranded Also confirmed that RBC have a covenant on the land where there stadium is, meaning it can only ever be used for a stadium. An application can be made to change it but it would be opposed by the council.


Whilst this is certainly a whole lot better than nothing, displaying my usual cynical attitude towards politicians, what prevents those in power at the time being persuaded/encouraged not to oppose plans, particularly if there is substantial planning gain offered?

Same as for literally anything. Nothing but public perception and activisim.


So unless we import a few thousand of our French friends we could be f*cked then!

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Mid Sussex Royal » 07 Sep 2023 18:06

Not completely on topic but as they are backing all this, haven't STAR got a meeting with the club coming up round about now?


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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by morganb » 13 Sep 2023 16:52

They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by NathStPaul » 13 Sep 2023 16:53

morganb They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534

They missed off the word "Bell" on that sign off.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Snowflake Royal » 13 Sep 2023 17:00

I'm interested in how these planks think the EFL can hold a private individual (foreign national) to account for anything.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by windermereROYAL » 13 Sep 2023 17:04

And our biggest bogey team since 20/21.............



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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Zammo » 13 Sep 2023 17:28

morganb They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534


Weird. Not heard from them for a while. Assume they must be taking action/keeping the pressure up behind the scenes.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Snowflake Royal » 13 Sep 2023 17:46

windermereROYAL And our biggest bogey team since 20/21.............


:lol:

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Clyde1998 » 13 Sep 2023 17:49

windermereROYAL And our biggest bogey team since 20/21.............


Impressive points per game ratio of infinity, even West Brom could only manage three points per game against us.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Sutekh » 13 Sep 2023 19:54

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windermereROYAL And our biggest bogey team since 20/21.............


Impressive points per game ratio of infinity, even West Brom could only manage three points per game against us.


Yes shouldn't be showing the total Reading playing record since 20/21 rather than a load of 0s?


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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Greatwesternline » 13 Sep 2023 19:59

Just to point out that as clearly month to month RFC makes a loss, and isnt cash generative, which is why we keep failing to meet the EFL rules, it means that every month Dai continues to "invest" in the club because its still a black hole of money to him.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Sutekh » 13 Sep 2023 20:04

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morganb They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534


Weird. Not heard from them for a while. Assume they must be taking action/keeping the pressure up behind the scenes.


I have to say that while the owners should be the ones brought to account rather than the club, just what else can the FA/PL/FL do if the owner is out of UK jurisdiction and can't be brought to account in a court somewhere? And what if the problems are actually being caused by policies of another country's government - should clubs and owners be being penalised at all? Perhaps there are legal arguments that need to be had on that point.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Greatwesternline » 13 Sep 2023 20:34

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morganb They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534


Weird. Not heard from them for a while. Assume they must be taking action/keeping the pressure up behind the scenes.


I have to say that while the owners should be the ones brought to account rather than the club, just what else can the FA/PL/FL do if the owner is out of UK jurisdiction and can't be brought to account in a court somewhere? And what if the problems are actually being caused by policies of another country's government - should clubs and owners be being penalised at all? Perhaps there are legal arguments that need to be had on that point.


What legal arguments? We're not breaking any laws. We're just breaking the rules of a football competition.

I know sports governing bodies like to take themselves too seriously and refer to the rules of the games as "laws", the reality is, we are a football club that isn't playing by the rules of the league we are in. Why would that interest a court?

Why would the other teams in the league agree to let one of the other teams off playing by the same rules because they got a dodgy owner and tried to cheat the rules by selling their stadium and training ground to themselves and then ran out of ways to cheat the rules.

The level of self-delusion from Reading fans is quite high. People still seem to think we are the wronged party here.

We did financial doping, still didnt get promoted, continue to break rules on a monthly basis and people still think the world owes us leniency.

What the actual oxf*rd.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by genome » 13 Sep 2023 20:47

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morganb They've issued a statement (probably not worth reading though):



https://twitter.com/SellBeforeWeDai/sta ... 2258282534

They missed off the word "Bell" on that sign off.


chuckle

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by genome » 13 Sep 2023 20:50

I like how they've got "for immediate release" on there as if they have an external PR department

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by leon » 13 Sep 2023 20:52

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Weird. Not heard from them for a while. Assume they must be taking action/keeping the pressure up behind the scenes.


I have to say that while the owners should be the ones brought to account rather than the club, just what else can the FA/PL/FL do if the owner is out of UK jurisdiction and can't be brought to account in a court somewhere? And what if the problems are actually being caused by policies of another country's government - should clubs and owners be being penalised at all? Perhaps there are legal arguments that need to be had on that point.


What legal arguments? We're not breaking any laws. We're just breaking the rules of a football competition.

I know sports governing bodies like to take themselves too seriously and refer to the rules of the games as "laws", the reality is, we are a football club that isn't playing by the rules of the league we are in. Why would that interest a court?

Why would the other teams in the league agree to let one of the other teams off playing by the same rules because they got a dodgy owner and tried to cheat the rules by selling their stadium and training ground to themselves and then ran out of ways to cheat the rules.

The level of self-delusion from Reading fans is quite high. People still seem to think we are the wronged party here.

We did financial doping, still didnt get promoted, continue to break rules on a monthly basis and people still think the world owes us leniency.

What the actual oxf*rd.


we're now getting punished for our owner's financial negligence rather than trying to gain a competitive advantage through rule breaking so blaming the fans for it is missing the point I would say.

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Re: “ Sell before we Dai “ supporters action group v2.2

by Greatwesternline » 13 Sep 2023 20:54

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I have to say that while the owners should be the ones brought to account rather than the club, just what else can the FA/PL/FL do if the owner is out of UK jurisdiction and can't be brought to account in a court somewhere? And what if the problems are actually being caused by policies of another country's government - should clubs and owners be being penalised at all? Perhaps there are legal arguments that need to be had on that point.


What legal arguments? We're not breaking any laws. We're just breaking the rules of a football competition.

I know sports governing bodies like to take themselves too seriously and refer to the rules of the games as "laws", the reality is, we are a football club that isn't playing by the rules of the league we are in. Why would that interest a court?

Why would the other teams in the league agree to let one of the other teams off playing by the same rules because they got a dodgy owner and tried to cheat the rules by selling their stadium and training ground to themselves and then ran out of ways to cheat the rules.

The level of self-delusion from Reading fans is quite high. People still seem to think we are the wronged party here.

We did financial doping, still didnt get promoted, continue to break rules on a monthly basis and people still think the world owes us leniency.

What the actual oxf*rd.


we're now getting punished for our owner's financial negligence rather than trying to gain a competitive advantage through rule breaking so blaming the fans for it is missing the point I would say.


Clubs that sign players whose wages they can't afford to pay each month are gaining a competitive advantage.

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