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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hendo » 27 Apr 2022 20:36

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Yep and surprise surprise his agent is Kia. Will probably happen and that scumbag will bleed even more money from us.


Got some proof for that?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Apr 2022 21:42

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Nameless What might happen a year or two in the future really isn’t important in terms of sorting contracts now.
I’d be extremely surprised if Rino is on 2k and if he is we have no chance of resigning him.


I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

Did those figures get even close to wage bill total of ~£26m though?

I find it very doubtful Rino is on less than £4k, and Joao on £15k.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Nameless » 27 Apr 2022 21:57

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Nameless What might happen a year or two in the future really isn’t important in terms of sorting contracts now.
I’d be extremely surprised if Rino is on 2k and if he is we have no chance of resigning him.


I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

Did those figures get even close to wage bill total of ~£26m though?

I find it very doubtful Rino is on less than £4k, and Joao on £15k.


Which bits do you doubt ?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 27 Apr 2022 22:02

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Nameless What might happen a year or two in the future really isn’t important in terms of sorting contracts now.
I’d be extremely surprised if Rino is on 2k and if he is we have no chance of resigning him.


I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

Did those figures get even close to wage bill total of ~£26m though?

I find it very doubtful Rino is on less than £4k, and Joao on £15k.


It was from the start of this season and came to about £22m which was the limit we had been set by the EFL. It listed Puscas on £16,000, Rafael on £18,000 Moore on 30,000 and Swift on £25,000.

£3,500 p/w seems perfectly reasonable for Rinomhota considering at the time he signed it, he was coming out of the U23s and had only played about half a dozen first team games.

How much do you reckon Joao should be on?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Lower West » 27 Apr 2022 23:55

Wasn't the squad average around £16k per week at the beginning of this season? Objective is around £8k per week. 50% is a serious haircut to take. Falling revenues aren't going to help matters.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hound » 28 Apr 2022 07:43

Lower West Wasn't the squad average around £16k per week at the beginning of this season? Objective is around £8k per week. 50% is a serious haircut to take. Falling revenues aren't going to help matters.


Falling revenues won’t hit the wage bill limit

Think the 16m is perfectly doable with staying competitive, esp if Puscas and Moore leave

Don’t want to keep going on about it, but basically if Moore stays our limit is 14m + him. That’s a lot harder

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 28 Apr 2022 08:32

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I posted figures for the whole squad. In the source I used, Rinomhota was on £3,500 p/w.

That contract was signed in February 2019 just as he broke into the first team. Not an outlandish figure in the circumstances.

If he's being linked to continental teams who's top earners are on £6,000 p/w, there's every reason to think he may resign on £8-9,000 p/w

If we shift Moore, and Puscas goes, Joao will be our top earner on £15,000 p/w (and is good value for that IMO) with Ejaria and Meite the only other players on more than £10,000 p/w. Having 7 or 8 1st teamers on £10-12,000 a week is realistically where we should be as a Championship club.

Did those figures get even close to wage bill total of ~£26m though?

I find it very doubtful Rino is on less than £4k, and Joao on £15k.


It was from the start of this season and came to about £22m which was the limit we had been set by the EFL. It listed Puscas on £16,000, Rafael on £18,000 Moore on 30,000 and Swift on £25,000.

£3,500 p/w seems perfectly reasonable for Rinomhota considering at the time he signed it, he was coming out of the U23s and had only played about half a dozen first team games.

How much do you reckon Joao should be on?

Given the amount we paid for him, and that he came from Wednesday who at the time were also spending far too much, about £20k

I don't believe we started the season at about £22m, given that would have been a drop of a third on the previous season.

I thought Rino signed a new contract after his break through. He entered the first team under Clement in 2018, it seems unlikely a relatively unhyped 21 year old was on a 4 year contract at that point. And that after he became a first team regular he wasn’t rewarded with an improved deal.

The one credible thing about it is that we are such a poorly run club we're happy to foment resentment within the playing staff by having on of our key first team players earning about a 10th of one of our underperforming first team players.

I simply don't believe these sites have any genuine knowledge of player deals for the most part. They just aggregate rumours about the big names and guess the rest.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 28 Apr 2022 08:44

Snowflake Royal I simply don't believe these sites have any genuine knowledge of player deals for the most part. They just aggregate rumours about the big names and guess the rest.


And how exactly do you come up with your figures?

Rinomhota signed his current contract in February 2019, about 2 months after Clement was sacked and just after he broke into the first team. He would previously have been on an U23s contract which in all likelihood would have been hundreds a week so a jump to £3,500 would have been significant for him at the time. Don't forget, Rinomhota was signed from a team at Step 9 of the non league pyramid.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 28 Apr 2022 09:15

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Snowflake Royal Did those figures get even close to wage bill total of ~£26m though?

I find it very doubtful Rino is on less than £4k, and Joao on £15k.


It was from the start of this season and came to about £22m which was the limit we had been set by the EFL. It listed Puscas on £16,000, Rafael on £18,000 Moore on 30,000 and Swift on £25,000.

£3,500 p/w seems perfectly reasonable for Rinomhota considering at the time he signed it, he was coming out of the U23s and had only played about half a dozen first team games.

How much do you reckon Joao should be on?

Given the amount we paid for him, and that he came from Wednesday who at the time were also spending far too much, about £20k

I don't believe we started the season at about £22m, given that would have been a drop of a third on the previous season.


Considering he was well down the pecking order at Wednesday for some reason, I can't imagine he was one of their top earners there, but I don't have nothing to back that up, I just wouldn't assume their 3rd/4th choice forward who wasn't exactly a regular first team player would be on a big wage. I'd imagine something like £10k a week, so £15k at ourselves seems reasonable.

I also don't think we started at £22m either, but considering we released both Baldock and Aluko who were earning big money, I can imagine they accounted for about £2m-ish of our yearly wage bill. We also released a lot of youth players which collectively will also add up significantly as well.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Pepe the Horseman » 28 Apr 2022 11:22

Mark Warburton leaving QPR. Obviously they've fallen off a cliff recently, but has done a good job at the super hoops imo. Think he would be a much more realistic and sensible option for us. So obviously no chance of it happening.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 28 Apr 2022 11:48

Pepe the Horseman Mark Warburton leaving QPR. Obviously they've fallen off a cliff recently, but has done a good job at the super hoops imo. Think he would be a much more realistic and sensible option for us. So obviously no chance of it happening.

He is a steady Eddie, not inspiring but we could certainly do a lot worse. I hope our owner uses his loaf and at least gives Warburton an interview.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Pepe the Horseman » 28 Apr 2022 11:50

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Pepe the Horseman Mark Warburton leaving QPR. Obviously they've fallen off a cliff recently, but has done a good job at the super hoops imo. Think he would be a much more realistic and sensible option for us. So obviously no chance of it happening.

He is a steady Eddie, not inspiring but we could certainly do a lot worse. I hope our owner uses his loaf and at least gives Warburton an interview.

Could come down to how much dough he wants.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by PATRIQT » 28 Apr 2022 12:00

NathStPaul I hope our owner uses his loaf...


I've spotted the problem.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 28 Apr 2022 12:03

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Pepe the Horseman Mark Warburton leaving QPR. Obviously they've fallen off a cliff recently, but has done a good job at the super hoops imo. Think he would be a much more realistic and sensible option for us. So obviously no chance of it happening.

He is a steady Eddie, not inspiring but we could certainly do a lot worse. I hope our owner uses his loaf and at least gives Warburton an interview.

Could come down to how much dough he wants.

He will want at yeast 15k a week I reckon.

If we get Warburton in then we can expect a new deal for Brandon Baker.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Pepe the Horseman » 28 Apr 2022 12:16

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NathStPaul He is a steady Eddie, not inspiring but we could certainly do a lot worse. I hope our owner uses his loaf and at least gives Warburton an interview.

Could come down to how much dough he wants.

He will want at yeast 15k a week I reckon.

If we get Warburton in then we can expect a new deal for Brandon Baker.

We knead as many players as we can get tbf.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by morganb » 28 Apr 2022 12:20

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Pepe the Horseman Could come down to how much dough he wants.

He will want at yeast 15k a week I reckon.

If we get Warburton in then we can expect a new deal for Brandon Baker.

We knead as many players as we can get tbf.


Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me...

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 28 Apr 2022 12:22

Managed to do relatively well with QPR who were in a somewhat similar situation to ourselves with some high earners in there and the club struggling to manage finances up until recently. Would be a decent option.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 28 Apr 2022 12:23

Ruined it. What a nob. :roll:

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by Hendo » 28 Apr 2022 12:28

NathStPaul Ruined it. What a nob. :roll:


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by Pepe the Horseman » 28 Apr 2022 13:10

NathStPaul Ruined it. What a nob. :roll:

Don't rise to it.

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