Bignall in trouble?

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Kingsley Junior » 12 Oct 2010 16:22

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I'm simply making the point that he was NOT charged with carrying an offensive weapon


Christ, I thought I was pedantic and argumentative........


Look, the original post clearly implied that Bignall
had been carrying an offensive weapon (eg a knife)


Anyone know anything about Nicholas Bignall being in trouble with the law?
There's a guy listed at Reading Crown Court soon of that name with the same date of birth
for AOABH and having an offensive weapon alongside two other guys.



that sort of "carelessness" shouldn't go unchallenged.

Unchallenged it ends up as "accepted fact" even though

(a) Bignall WASN'T charged with having an offensive weapon

(b) The charge against the other guy (for carrying a weapon) was shelved.

It's not "pedantic" to want the truth, especially when it might
involve a 20-year old's freedom or imprisonment.


The Running List for Reading Crown Court on August 6th listed the three names with the stated charges. Whether the charges all applied to each individual or not was not stated; it may be that Bignall was only ever up for AOABH or it may be that the weapon charge was dropped before he next appeared. As long as the people involved in the trial make sure they actually know what is going on, then a mention on an internet message board is not really going to impact upon a 20-year-old's freedom or imprisonment, is it? Having actually SEEN the Crown Court listing that I was referring to, I know what it said. Having worked with those Crown Court listings day in, day out, I know at least roughly what I am talking about. I don't see how it could be taken as an accepted fact that Reading FC's Nicholas Bignall was facing those charges from what I said. I merely asked if anyone knew anything about any incident as someone of his name and date of birth was listed. At the same time, people are on those lists for a reason, it is not the same as UR&G.

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by andrew1957 » 17 Oct 2010 20:31

Quite surprised Bignall has been given a contract extension with this case hanging over him.

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by AndyRFC » 17 Dec 2010 14:35


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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Snowball » 18 Dec 2010 09:38

So guilty only according to the certain posters on this thread, as predicted

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Ian Royal » 18 Dec 2010 17:44

Snowball So guilty only according to the certain posters on this thread, as predicted


case being dropped is not necessarily an indicator of innocence.


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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 18 Dec 2010 17:46

But harsh to make him a marked man because of it. This thread could do with possible deletion if it starts getting silly herein

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Ian Royal » 18 Dec 2010 17:53

Harpers So Solid Crew But harsh to make him a marked man because of it. This thread could do with possible deletion if it starts getting silly herein


of course, I pass no comment on whether he is innocent or not, or whether we should get rid or keep. Just pointing out that case dropped =/= innocent.

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Snowball » 18 Dec 2010 17:58

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Snowball So guilty only according to the certain posters on this thread, as predicted


case being dropped is not necessarily an indicator of innocence.



You ever get accused of rape and then the case is dropped, we'll call you a rapist, then.

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Avon Royal » 18 Dec 2010 18:01

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Snowball So guilty only according to the certain posters on this thread, as predicted


case being dropped is not necessarily an indicator of innocence.


Actually it is.

A person is innocent until proven guilty. If a case is dropped before that person is proven guilty they therefore remain innocent.


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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Ian Royal » 18 Dec 2010 18:02

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Snowball So guilty only according to the certain posters on this thread, as predicted


case being dropped is not necessarily an indicator of innocence.



You ever get accused of rape and then the case is dropped, we'll call you a rapist, then.


Excellent example given the extremely low conviction and charge rates for rape.

Avon: The law considers someone innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That is not the same thing as them actually being innocent.

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Re: Bignall in trouble?

by Avon Royal » 18 Dec 2010 18:05

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Ian Royal case being dropped is not necessarily an indicator of innocence.



You ever get accused of rape and then the case is dropped, we'll call you a rapist, then.


Excellent example given the extremely low conviction and charge rates for rape.

Avon: The law considers someone innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That is not the same thing as them actually being innocent.


I think you are getting confused between "being innocent" and not having carried out an act.

The case being dropped is not an indicator that an act was not carried out, but it is an indicator of innocence, which in itself is a legal concept.

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