Report the ref/Leeds?

[The Cube]

Nice explanation, thanks Cube.

By "Favours us", I meant only with respect to our desire for justice.

I thought that was probably the case, but I prefer points.

[Avon Royal]

Nice explanation, thanks Cube.

By "Favours us", I meant only with respect to our desire for justice.

I thought that was probably the case, but I prefer points.

Indeed. I prefer healthy midfielders too

[redscot]

I just seen Hell drivers on BBC. Our guy fought it out with Red (Leeds) whom was a thug. Our guy won in the end, so thuggery does not allways pay!

[handbags_harris]

Nice explanation, thanks Cube.

By "Favours us", I meant only with respect to our desire for justice.

Nice explanation, but sadly, completely incorrect on many counts. The FA can only act if the referee admits to either:-

a) not having seen the incident (he clearly saw it),

or

b) making the incorrect call (slim chance on Pugh, no chance on Brown).

What clubs do or say in the aftermath have very little impact on subsequent action.

Incidentally, for the Pugh incident the only reason a free kick wasn't given was because the referee clearly indicated that Pugh played the ball. There was no advantage because in the referee's mind no offence had been committed.

[The Cube]

Incidentally, for the Pugh incident the only reason a free kick wasn't given was because the referee clearly indicated that Pugh played the ball. There was no advantage because in the referee's mind no offence had been committed.

You mean Brown, surely? For Pugh the referee clearly indicated that he was playing an advantage.

[handbags_harris]

Incidentally, for the Pugh incident the only reason a free kick wasn't given was because the referee clearly indicated that Pugh played the ball. There was no advantage because in the referee's mind no offence had been committed.

You mean Brown, surely? For Pugh the referee clearly indicated that he was playing an advantage.

If we're talking the one in the first half on Karacan that ripped his sock, he clearly points directly at the ball and follows the ball. There is no indication of an advantage which would be two arms forward pointing towards the attacking end.

[Wizard]

Michael Brown sent off after 25mins v Derby today.

[Cypry]

Brown shown a straight red against Derby today...

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

A game too late but that scumbag Brown sent off for Leeds...straight red...

...hopefully the club will be hauled before the FL and fined from their pitiful disciplinary record

[Niko]

Brown shown a straight red against Derby today...

I'm guessing the ref watched our match on Friday and wished to deal some justice...

[Royals-lad14]

surely the FA has to look at this pricks behaviour? puts his job to shame.

[RoyalBlue]

Incidentally, for the Pugh incident the only reason a free kick wasn't given was because the referee clearly indicated that Pugh played the ball. There was no advantage because in the referee's mind no offence had been committed.

You mean Brown, surely? For Pugh the referee clearly indicated that he was playing an advantage.

If we're talking the one in the first half on Karacan that ripped his sock, he clearly points directly at the ball and follows the ball. There is no indication of an advantage which would be two arms forward pointing towards the attacking end.

You are right. Incredibly he didn't appear to think there was anything wrong with the challenge!

[The Cube]

Incidentally, for the Pugh incident the only reason a free kick wasn't given was because the referee clearly indicated that Pugh played the ball. There was no advantage because in the referee's mind no offence had been committed.

You mean Brown, surely? For Pugh the referee clearly indicated that he was playing an advantage.

If we're talking the one in the first half on Karacan that ripped his sock, he clearly points directly at the ball and follows the ball. There is no indication of an advantage which would be two arms forward pointing towards the attacking end.

Just watched it back on the BBC website which didn't help as it cuts away from the ref as he is pointing. During the match I was certain that he did the two arms advantage thing for that incident.

The other time referees point is when they are fixing a player in their mind to come back to. But I can't say he was doing that because he didn't go back.

[handbags_harris]

The other time referees point is when they are fixing a player in their mind to come back to. But I can't say he was doing that because he didn't go back.

Indeed they do, valid point. In this instance though I distinctly remember watching the replay and watching the referee clearly point to the ball immediately after the challenge. If he'd have pointed to the player he would have had to have waited to see who gained possession in the aftermath of the challenge.

[Hoop Blah]

Ref missed one bad challenge and the fact we went uncarded showed some respect from us as a team. Other big decisions he got right. Yes you can be picky about a challenge here, timekeeping there but we have had worse.

We won, we move on, get over it! Just be grateful we don't follow the Leeds / Warnock way.

If that's the typical view from a fellow official then it's no wonder we keep seeing shocking performances from officials.

I'm not one to have a pop at refs or their 'assitants' but Fridays was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a league official. From the moment he sent their lad off he lost control of the game and because of that put our players at risk and almost cost us the game.

The Leeds tactics were obvious. They were timewasting and looking to nobble our players at every opportunity yet the ref did nothing to stop it and the game spiraled out of his control.

As fans there's nothing we can really do about it but I really do hope that as a collection of organisations and individuals the club, Football League, Refs Association (or whatever they brand themselves as these days!) the ref himself and those players and staff at Leeds, they recognise what a shocking display it was from many involved.

[Ian Royal]

Ref missed one bad challenge and the fact we went uncarded showed some respect from us as a team. Other big decisions he got right. Yes you can be picky about a challenge here, timekeeping there but we have had worse.

We won, we move on, get over it! Just be grateful we don't follow the Leeds / Warnock way.

If that's the typical view from a fellow official then it's no wonder we keep seeing shocking performances from officials.

I'm not one to have a pop at refs or their 'assitants' but Fridays was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a league official. From the moment he sent their lad off he lost control of the game and because of that put our players at risk and almost cost us the game.

The Leeds tactics were obvious. They were timewasting and looking to nobble our players at every opportunity yet the ref did nothing to stop it and the game spiraled out of his control.

As fans there's nothing we can really do about it but I really do hope that as a collection of organisations and individuals the club, Football League, Refs Association (or whatever they brand themselves as these days!) the ref himself and those players and staff at Leeds, they recognise what a shocking display it was from many involved.

It really is shocking that paul is defending his jugement on the other Pugh challenge that looked like a red to me. The Brown Ledge challenge which looked a pretty nailed on challenge from behind that goes through the player to me. The chat to Brown as a last warning and to calm down followed shortly after by another horrific challenge that went totally unpunished and then another nasty one in the second half where he got no cards again. Oh and then there was the assault on Pearce in the box which is the most blatant penalty I've ever seen.