Gate figure conspiracy-gate?

[The Cube]

Well I've asked JLow if he knows anything about a change of methodology in reporting figures, and he says he'll try to find out.

So watch this space

Gosh, if only he was a proper journalist he might have manged to think about asking a question all by himself.

[WAZZOCK]

I'm surprised this has made it to page 4, people are reading into this way too much.

[Denver Royal]

Well at least Leeds will improve the gate this Saturday with 4200 travelling and a fair few more in the Home ends.

Almost 20k there today 'officially'.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Yeah there was never as many as claimed today, so clearly back to including all STs.

So what was going on last 2 games

[windermereROYAL]

Well at least Leeds will improve the gate this Saturday with 4200 travelling and a fair few more in the Home ends.

Almost 20k there today 'officially'.

Not a chance.

[double d]

Yeah there was never as many as claimed today, so clearly back to including all STs.

So what was going on last 2 games

Work experiance lad probably

[Forbury Lion]

the crowds have gone down, so how would that work?

It's reasonable to assume that the car park season ticket holders are also football season ticket holders, So if a person who owns both season tickets misses a game then chances are they will not park their car on the site for the duration of the match, therefore by including them in the attendance figures and not the car parking figures you are distorting the facts.

An extreme and unrealistic example:
If capacity was 1,000 and there were 1,000 parking spaces held by 1,000 ST Holders
900 decide not to attend the match
Attendance reported as 1,000 instead of 100 of which only 100 used the car park, Therefore the car parking requirements are shown as 100/1000 = 10% of stadium sales instead of 100/100 = 100%.... so they can argue that they only need 100 parking spots in future and/or free bus alternatives and can build on the rest of the land.

If we are assuming the intention is to pretend car park demand is lower than it really is then than makes no sense.

Let's assume if 8000 people actually turn up, 800 will park in the car park. Let's also assume the tickets sold figure for that same game is 12,000.

Which figure implies a lower demand, 800 cars in a crowd of 8000 or 800 cars in a crowd of 12000?

Also, hasn't R.E.P. already been approved? The club doesn't have to convince the council of anything.

It's a conspiracy theory thread, your supposed to add new conspiracy theories (even ones you don't believe in) not attempt to debunk theories.

I personally think it's common practice because
1. Clubs don't want to admit their offerings are so bad that even paying customers don't want to turn up / they want to talk up their attendance figures to make their offering sound popular
2. Nobody can be arsed to count the number of people who attend a game - sure, most people get in by scanning their tickets so the computer will have some figures but why waste time checking on the computer when you have a number provided to you before the game to read out?
3. When selling advertising space or putting catering out to tender, having a higher number of potential hungry customers in the ground / in the stands looking at the ads is going to push prices up, so why quote lower numbers that will have a negative impact on profits?

[muirinho]

Yeah there was never as many as claimed today, so clearly back to including all STs.

So what was going on last 2 games

Work experiance lad probably

Sexist!

[Sebastian the Red]

culturally

Lol.

[Forbury Lion]

Are there many complimentary tickets given out for games? - How many graciously accepted this gift and didn't turn up?

[andrew1957]

Are there many complimentary tickets given out for games? - How many graciously accepted this gift and didn't turn up?

I would not even accept a free ticket right now.

[John Smith]

Are there many complimentary tickets given out for games? - How many graciously accepted this gift and didn't turn up?

I would not even accept a free ticket right now.

Good. Because you're not a supporter.

[Delboy]

Interesting looking at the recent RFC accounts season tickets 2016 were 12685, 2017 11497 so have definitely decided to change the way they report attendances ! surely there is an FA standard, Arsenal last week showed 59000 against city when it was actually half that!

[Forbury Lion]

Are there many complimentary tickets given out for games? - How many graciously accepted this gift and didn't turn up?

I would not even accept a free ticket right now.

Good. Because you're not a supporter.

From my experience, not many complimentary ticket holders are. I got a free ticket to Reading v Man Utd with hospitality and the other random in the group were a Sheffield United fan, a Chelsea fan and others who didn't really follow football. No Reading fans.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Attendance was 20,273 yesterday. Didn't look like that many. Seems a convenient time to start counting ST holders again.

[Jackson Corner]

I would not even accept a free ticket right now.

Good. Because you're not a supporter.

From my experience, not many complimentary ticket holders are. I got a free ticket to Reading v Man Utd with hospitality and the other random in the group were a Sheffield United fan, a Chelsea fan and others who didn't really follow football. No Reading fans.

That was my experience in hospitality. Most were watching soccer Saturday Spurs Liverpool and Southampton fans. No one apart from me were Reading fans.

[CountryRoyal]

Attendance was 20,273 yesterday. Didn't look like that many. Seems a convenient time to start counting ST holders again.

Last week I had a thought to myself that they would do that. I was thinking, perhaps changing the attendance policy was to highlight the issue to the owners to encourage action in sacking Stam. Perhaps Gourlay wanted to sooner? Never know.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Attendance was 20,273 yesterday. Didn't look like that many. Seems a convenient time to start counting ST holders again.

Last week I had a thought to myself that they would do that. I was thinking, perhaps changing the attendance policy was to highlight the issue to the owners to encourage action in sacking Stam. Perhaps Gourlay wanted to sooner? Never know.

Yeh that thought had crossed my mind too x