by AthleticoSpizz » 14 Jan 2022 21:09
by Sutekh » 15 Jan 2022 06:29
Mid Sussex RoyalMillsySutekh
Generally yes JM did…
Ian Porterfield was removed ostensibly over drink/driving
Mark McGhee jumped ship
Quinn and Gooding were given the heave-ho for no real reason other than JM fancied a change, not what I would have done but then who cares what I would have done?
Terry Bullivant - was that mutual consent or did Terry just walk away?
Tommy Burns was just awful at Reading so got the tin-tack after a reasonable run all of which was fairly bad
Alan Pardew walked out
Steve Coppell resigned
Brendan Rodgers sacked after only 5 months wasn’t it?
Brian McDermott was sacked by Zingaravich I think
Nigel Adkins was sacked by the Thais after JM had managed to sell the club again
I think he only got the decisions on QandG and Brendan wrong
Obviously I love JM.
But your summary there suggests he got 2 wrong, 2 right and the rest were sort of out of his hands/forced. So I’m not sure about the claim of him getting “rid of managers at the right time”. Seems quite neutral.
I put his success more down to being a shrewd enough judge of character to get the right people in more often than most others do I.e. FSB, Parj , Coppell and arguably Brenda had he kept his nerve.
So does he genuinely think Pauno is one of these great men? I’s he the next Brenda, as I’ve been suggesting he might be over the last few weeks? I no longer think that and I don’t think JM is suggesting that either, I think he’s just choosing not to lay the blame fully with him. But that’s just my opinion, largely because the Pauno debate is doing my head in and it’d be much more elegant for me if JM could align himself with the rest of us. He’s putting a spanner in the works!
Must have been character as SJM is not a football person. And he got it right more often than not, McGhee, Pardew and MacD were all completely unproven when appointed.
Re above, was right re not renewing Quinn and Gooding, but admittedly made the wrong appointments next 2. Q & G generally made poor signings and a side 4 mins from the premier league (built by McGhee) was relegation fodder within 6 months. Yes they kept us up for 2 seasons but it wouldn't have lasted. You only have to hear Gooding's bland contributions on BBC Berks to realise that.
by Millsy » 15 Jan 2022 17:02
SutekhMid Sussex RoyalMillsy
Obviously I love JM.
But your summary there suggests he got 2 wrong, 2 right and the rest were sort of out of his hands/forced. So I’m not sure about the claim of him getting “rid of managers at the right time”. Seems quite neutral.
I put his success more down to being a shrewd enough judge of character to get the right people in more often than most others do I.e. FSB, Parj , Coppell and arguably Brenda had he kept his nerve.
So does he genuinely think Pauno is one of these great men? I’s he the next Brenda, as I’ve been suggesting he might be over the last few weeks? I no longer think that and I don’t think JM is suggesting that either, I think he’s just choosing not to lay the blame fully with him. But that’s just my opinion, largely because the Pauno debate is doing my head in and it’d be much more elegant for me if JM could align himself with the rest of us. He’s putting a spanner in the works!
Must have been character as SJM is not a football person. And he got it right more often than not, McGhee, Pardew and MacD were all completely unproven when appointed.
Re above, was right re not renewing Quinn and Gooding, but admittedly made the wrong appointments next 2. Q & G generally made poor signings and a side 4 mins from the premier league (built by McGhee) was relegation fodder within 6 months. Yes they kept us up for 2 seasons but it wouldn't have lasted. You only have to hear Gooding's bland contributions on BBC Berks to realise that.
Mick Gooding has said of his and Jimmy’s tenure that every season they were in charge they would present JM with a playing budget they thought would get the club at least competing at the top of the division and another budget they thought would enable survival and every time JM went down the survival route because of the money involved plus things behind the scenes with identifying and building the new stadium.
On this Q&G were successful every season (and, as I recall, while the club teetered above relegation it never really got wedged in the relegation places during the season). If they had not been “Let go” I don’t think the club would have gone down in 1998 and they deserved a shot at a season with the budget that Burns wasted.
by Forest Gump » 15 Jan 2022 17:21
by Zip » 15 Jan 2022 17:24
Forest Gump If we keep the same manager we must accept the same ( lack of ) tactics, inability to defend, high rate of injuries and ultimately relegation this season.
If it hasn’t happened already the apathy will reach the dressing room and it’ll be damage limitation. Game after game until one of the three teams below us hits a little form and drops us into the R zone.
I predict that Derby will overtake Reading within the next 5 games and that will be that. Stark contrast really. Derby players haven’t been paid but are still beating other teams whereas….
Sums it up really. It’s not just the manager that is the issue here. Most of this overpaid and over-rated squad need to go.
Many of them are an insult to our club.
by SouthDownsRoyal » 15 Jan 2022 22:43
by Snowflake Royal » 15 Jan 2022 22:44
SouthDownsRoyal Won’t be sacked. He is here until end of the season.
by SouthDownsRoyal » 15 Jan 2022 22:48
Snowflake RoyalSouthDownsRoyal Won’t be sacked. He is here until end of the season.
Lose the next 4 and I bet he isn’t.
by Lower West » 15 Jan 2022 23:46
Snowflake RoyalSouthDownsRoyal Won’t be sacked. He is here until end of the season.
Lose the next 4 and I bet he isn’t.
The Club has also agreed to adhere to a Business Plan focused on a number of financial targets, including controlling player-related expenditure, with the objective of moving the Club towards P&S compliance in forthcoming reporting periods.
by Snowflake Royal » 15 Jan 2022 23:48
Lower WestSnowflake RoyalSouthDownsRoyal Won’t be sacked. He is here until end of the season.
Lose the next 4 and I bet he isn’t.
There's no money in the pot.The Club has also agreed to adhere to a Business Plan focused on a number of financial targets, including controlling player-related expenditure, with the objective of moving the Club towards P&S compliance in forthcoming reporting periods.
by Millsy » 16 Jan 2022 00:49
by Lower West » 16 Jan 2022 01:17
Snowflake RoyalLower WestSnowflake Royal Lose the next 4 and I bet he isn’t.
There's no money in the pot.The Club has also agreed to adhere to a Business Plan focused on a number of financial targets, including controlling player-related expenditure, with the objective of moving the Club towards P&S compliance in forthcoming reporting periods.
Do that badly and income will be threatened by much more than the cost of a replacement.
by Hound » 16 Jan 2022 06:56
by Jackson Corner » 16 Jan 2022 07:18
by CountryRoyal » 16 Jan 2022 09:21
Jackson Corner He has to be the luckiest manager ever. Our most humiliating cup defeat ever. Our biggest ever home defeat. And another last minute defeat. I can’t think of any other club that would not have sacked the manager.
by Snowflake Royal » 16 Jan 2022 11:15
Lower WestSnowflake RoyalLower West
There's no money in the pot.
Do that badly and income will be threatened by much more than the cost of a replacement.
Another 6 point deduction this season would be suicidal.
by Millsy » 15 Feb 2022 07:53
by Zip » 15 Feb 2022 08:45
by Hound » 15 Feb 2022 09:15
Zip Never. Pauno will remain manager forever as we crash down through the divisions and end up playing in the Hellenic League South division 3 section.
We will be living in Paunoworld forever.
by Snowflake Royal » 15 Feb 2022 09:20
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