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Re: Next manager

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Dec 2024 12:49

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Elm Park Kid It will have to be Hunt as no manager in their right mind is going to join a club in our situation.


You think?

Difficult to really “lose out” from a manager’s perspective. You can either do well, build a better reputation and move on (like Selles) or struggle but with the excuse of the current condition we’re in. Think it’s almost impossible to lose any credibility at the moment managing us - shot to nothing

Exactly, when in the history of football has it ever been difficult to find externals interested in being manager? Never.

People said this when we were last recruiting and we almost appointed Wilder and did appoint Selles, who after a sticky start has done very well.

Obviously we'll have an interim internal manager, and we certainly should have internal succession planning. But externals will be interested, and some of them will even be potentially good or competent.


It's also worth remembering that the club's table position and squad strength is far superior to anywhere its been for years, comparative to our division. Unlike almost every manager for a decade, Selles will leave the playing side in rude health.

And really, how much worse is the non-playing side right now? Dai's stopped refusing to sell players to find the club, he's stopped buying massively overpriced and over paid mediocrity for the playing side. We have a good coaching and scouting set up, and compared to when Selles joined we are actually still just about paying our bills.

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Re: Next manager

by Whore Jackie » 05 Dec 2024 12:50

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Whore Jackie At the Former Players' thing in October, Rubén was categoric that he would remain in charge for at least until the end of this season, unless he was lied to, by the people above.

If he does go, then I think it's safe to assume that these new potential owners are either not credible, do not exist or simply that Dai is not selling.


Well it's not sage to assume anything.

All of that may be true or it may just be that the impact this job was having on his mental health was such that he felt he no longer had a choice but to move on whilst someone wanted to employ him.

It is likely that someone crossed that line in terms of lies though.

I'm surprised lying was a red line. The club lie all the time. It's what they do. Saying you'll leave the club when they lie to you is like saying you'll put up an umbrella when it rains. You know it will happen, it's just timing.


He came across brilliantly. Easy to see why the players have bought into his tactics and improved under his coaching. But he was also obviously very principled. In his tactics, how he had to deal with problematic squad members, but specifically if he felt that Dai or Pang lied to him about the future, new ownership model etc then he would have to reconsider that commitment.

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Re: Next manager

by Hound » 05 Dec 2024 12:54

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Elm Park Kid It will have to be Hunt as no manager in their right mind is going to join a club in our situation.


You think?

Difficult to really “lose out” from a manager’s perspective. You can either do well, build a better reputation and move on (like Selles) or struggle but with the excuse of the current condition we’re in. Think it’s almost impossible to lose any credibility at the moment managing us - shot to nothing

Exactly, when in the history of football has it ever been difficult to find externals interested in being manager? Never.

People said this when we were last recruiting and we almost appointed Wilder and did appoint Selles, who after a sticky start has done very well.

Obviously we'll have an interim internal manager, and we certainly should have internal succession planning. But externals will be interested, and some of them will even be potentially good or competent.


It's also worth remembering that the club's table position and squad strength is far superior to anywhere its been for years, comparative to our division. Unlike almost every manager for a decade, Selles will leave the playing side in rude health.

And really, how much worse is the non-playing side right now? Dai's stopped refusing to sell players to find the club, he's stopped buying massively overpriced and over paid mediocrity for the playing side. We have a good coaching and scouting set up, and compared to when Selles joined we are actually still just about paying our bills.


Who would actually make the choice from applicants? Pang?

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Re: Next manager

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Dec 2024 12:55

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You think?

Difficult to really “lose out” from a manager’s perspective. You can either do well, build a better reputation and move on (like Selles) or struggle but with the excuse of the current condition we’re in. Think it’s almost impossible to lose any credibility at the moment managing us - shot to nothing

Exactly, when in the history of football has it ever been difficult to find externals interested in being manager? Never.

People said this when we were last recruiting and we almost appointed Wilder and did appoint Selles, who after a sticky start has done very well.

Obviously we'll have an interim internal manager, and we certainly should have internal succession planning. But externals will be interested, and some of them will even be potentially good or competent.


It's also worth remembering that the club's table position and squad strength is far superior to anywhere its been for years, comparative to our division. Unlike almost every manager for a decade, Selles will leave the playing side in rude health.

And really, how much worse is the non-playing side right now? Dai's stopped refusing to sell players to find the club, he's stopped buying massively overpriced and over paid mediocrity for the playing side. We have a good coaching and scouting set up, and compared to when Selles joined we are actually still just about paying our bills.


Who would actually make the choice from applicants? Pang?

oxf*rd knows. That's the REAL roadblock to an external candidate.

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Re: Next manager

by Sutekh » 05 Dec 2024 15:35

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Snowflake Royal Exactly, when in the history of football has it ever been difficult to find externals interested in being manager? Never.

People said this when we were last recruiting and we almost appointed Wilder and did appoint Selles, who after a sticky start has done very well.

Obviously we'll have an interim internal manager, and we certainly should have internal succession planning. But externals will be interested, and some of them will even be potentially good or competent.


It's also worth remembering that the club's table position and squad strength is far superior to anywhere its been for years, comparative to our division. Unlike almost every manager for a decade, Selles will leave the playing side in rude health.

And really, how much worse is the non-playing side right now? Dai's stopped refusing to sell players to find the club, he's stopped buying massively overpriced and over paid mediocrity for the playing side. We have a good coaching and scouting set up, and compared to when Selles joined we are actually still just about paying our bills.


Who would actually make the choice from applicants? Pang?

oxf*rd knows. That's the REAL roadblock to an external candidate.


There isn't anyone there is there? Bowen is no longer employed, Howe is suspended, Dai is just a pointless waste of space who doesn't care and I'm not even sure when the last time Pang was seen at the club.


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Re: Next manager

by grey_squirrel » 05 Dec 2024 15:45

Who gave Hull permission to speak to him then?

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Re: Next manager

by MouldyRoyal » 05 Dec 2024 15:47

Realistically it would have been Pang

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Re: Next manager

by Sutekh » 05 Dec 2024 15:48

grey_squirrel Who gave Hull permission to speak to him then?


Take your pick. Presumably it was Pang but nothing would surprise given the utter mess everything is in.

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Re: Next manager

by Mid Sussex Royal » 05 Dec 2024 15:51

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Who would actually make the choice from applicants? Pang?

oxf*rd knows. That's the REAL roadblock to an external candidate.


There isn't anyone there is there? Bowen is no longer employed, Howe is suspended, Dai is just a pointless waste of space who doesn't care and I'm not even sure when the last time Pang was seen at the club.


Earnshaw said yesterday Pang "was around"


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Re: Next manager

by Armadillo Roadkill » 05 Dec 2024 15:57

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Snowflake Royal oxf*rd knows. That's the REAL roadblock to an external candidate.


There isn't anyone there is there? Bowen is no longer employed, Howe is suspended, Dai is just a pointless waste of space who doesn't care and I'm not even sure when the last time Pang was seen at the club.


Earnshaw said yesterday Pang "was around"


In his interview with Dellor last week Selles made reference to the Chief Executive being active in the club at the moment.

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Re: Next manager

by Snowflake Royal » 05 Dec 2024 16:13

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There isn't anyone there is there? Bowen is no longer employed, Howe is suspended, Dai is just a pointless waste of space who doesn't care and I'm not even sure when the last time Pang was seen at the club.


Earnshaw said yesterday Pang "was around"


In his interview with Dellor last week Selles made reference to the Chief Executive being active in the club at the moment.

Yet more bad news :x

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Re: Next manager

by Hound » 05 Dec 2024 16:46

Pang appears when there is money to be made on sales etc. he’d have given Hull the permission

He has absolutely zero qualification to interview a new manager. I strongly suspect Hunt is the best option we have here, with hopefully the coaching team hanging around

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Re: Next manager

by stealthpapes » 05 Dec 2024 16:54

have we basically sold our manager to make ends meet?


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Re: Next manager

by Mid Sussex Royal » 05 Dec 2024 17:04

stealthpapes have we basically sold our manager to make ends meet?


£120k is the number being banded around on Twitter so no.

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Re: Next manager

by morganb » 05 Dec 2024 17:48

Hound Pang appears when there is money to be made on sales etc. he’d have given Hull the permission

He has absolutely zero qualification to interview a new manager. I strongly suspect Hunt is the best option we have here, with hopefully the coaching team hanging around


Selles's coaching staff going with him according to Twitter

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Re: Next manager

by Ascotexgunner » 05 Dec 2024 18:13

Just when you think it's all bottomed out we are just poodling along surviving we start dropping another level.
Im fast losing interest in the club....i have to say as much as his away record for us wasn't very good, I felt he was still in a learning process and really starting to get everything right, and now this.
Guess the one positive is our league position, the might attract a few managers....

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Re: Next manager

by Clyde1998 » 05 Dec 2024 18:17

https://rdg.today/reading-fc-coach-to-j ... es-closer/

Reading FC first-team coach James Oliver-Pearce is expected to join Ruben Selles’ coaching staff at Hull City as the manager departs the Royals.

It is understood that Selles returned to Bearwood Park training ground today to say farewell to all of the staff as he moves on.

It is also expected that Oliver-Pearce and also Tobias Loveland will both join Selles as part of his set-up at Hull.

It is now expected that Reading Under 21s boss Noel Hunt will be given the job left vacant by Selles.

News broke yesterday that Selles had become the frontrunner for the vacant Hull job and had been granted permission to speak to them.

The deal has developed quickly with a compensation package agreed between the two clubs.

The Royals fans are now left with more uncertainty than ever with the club in turmoil and now without a manager.

The club has been in a takeover saga for more than a year with absent owner Dai Yongge putting the Reading up for sale more than a year, but with no deal currently close.

Despite all the off-field troubles, Reading sit in 6th position in League One.

Hull City are currently in the Championship relegation zone in 22nd place.

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Re: Next manager

by SouthDownsRoyal » 05 Dec 2024 18:49

As I’ve said numerous times I’m just so numb to it all now it’s just another bit of bad news.

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Re: Next manager

by Hound » 05 Dec 2024 18:51

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Re: Next manager

by AthleticoSpizz » 05 Dec 2024 19:07

(Assuming Noel is a god-given to replace Ruben…..for now at least) Do we have anybody capable of replacing Noel (in what has become the lifeblood of propping-up the first team squad, U21s)?

Any thoughts that Ruben may want Noel with him too?

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