Shorey not a one cap wonder

[Only one Trevor Morley]

Can we just clear this up.

A bloke in my office is insisting that for Germany's first goal, it was Shorey who hacked it out to Germany's right wing and then the bloke slung the cross back in.

But the way I saw it, it was Robinson who hacked it out.

Who is right?

you are

def robinson

should have left it to shorey (and held the shot in the first place!)

i thought it was definitely shorey who cleared it.

[Scarface]

I thought Shorey showed a lot more going forward than he has so far this season for us. Hopefully he can reproduce his England form in a blue and white shirt now.

However I've mentioned on here his lack of closing down this season and yet again he allowed the winger acres of time to whip the cross in for the goal.

[Archies Volley]

Can we just clear this up.

A bloke in my office is insisting that for Germany's first goal, it was Shorey who hacked it out to Germany's right wing and then the bloke slung the cross back in.

But the way I saw it, it was Robinson who hacked it out.

Who is right?

you are

def robinson

should have left it to shorey (and held the shot in the first place!)

i thought it was definitely shorey who cleared it.

oh dear - maybe i had more to drink than i thought!

i still say robinson but maybe some one needs to find the you tube link so we can all watch again!

[The Surgeon of Crowthorne]

Can we just clear this up.

A bloke in my office is insisting that for Germany's first goal, it was Shorey who hacked it out to Germany's right wing and then the bloke slung the cross back in.

But the way I saw it, it was Robinson who hacked it out.

Who is right?

you are

def robinson

should have left it to shorey (and held the shot in the first place!)

i thought it was definitely shorey who cleared it.

oh dear - maybe i had more to drink than i thought!

i still say robinson but maybe some one needs to find the you tube link so we can all watch again!

Watch the replay if you can. Robinson kicks it almost from underneath Nicky while lying on the ground. Shorey then does stand too far from the player who crosses it.

[Archies Volley]

I thought Shorey showed a lot more going forward than he has so far this season for us. Hopefully he can reproduce his England form in a blue and white shirt now.

However I've mentioned on here his lack of closing down this season and yet again he allowed the winger acres of time to whip the cross in for the goal.

because he was in the area covering the keepers initial mistake (and maybe or maybe not making a poor clearence - read other posts!)

no way he could get out to the touch line to block the cross from where he was but if i am wrong and it was his clearence then he should take some blame

[Adrian's Fool]

I think he was fine last night, in fact I think England were fine defensively - not sure what all the moaning is about (one goalkeeping error, one amazing strike - did the Germans have any other shots on goal?).

I was watching Nicky carefully and he made very few errors, especially compared to e.g. Beckham, Joe Cole who kept giving the ball away. He got forward on a few occasions and put a couple of great crosses and attacking passes in, which unfortunately came to nothing. He was fairly solid defensively. Should have cleared better for the first goal but you have to apportion a lot of blame to the goalie and to the flatfooted centre halves who should have reacted quicker to Robinson's mistake.

Easily good enough for England (which is not necessarily saying a great deal).

[Stranded]

I thought Shorey showed a lot more going forward than he has so far this season for us. Hopefully he can reproduce his England form in a blue and white shirt now.

However I've mentioned on here his lack of closing down this season and yet again he allowed the winger acres of time to whip the cross in for the goal.

because he was in the area covering the keepers initial mistake (and maybe or maybe not making a poor clearence - read other posts!)

no way he could get out to the touch line to block the cross from where he was but if i am wrong and it was his clearence then he should take some blame

It was his clearance, anybody who thinks it wasn't is either blind or was drunk during the game.

[Only one Trevor Morley]

Can anyone confirm one way or another for sure - I am adamant Shorey cleared the ball.

[Stranded]

Robinson saved a long-ish range shot and spilled it. Shorey was nearest defender and recovered loose ball. Striker closed him down and he did one of those chip pass/clearance things that he does.

German winger picked the ball up just before it went out and crossed before Shorey could get out to close down......you know the rest.

[willz_royal]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwaAH0GJbQ


video evidence that it was robinsons clearance


ffs its me who supposed to act like a child

[Behindu]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwaAH0GJbQ


video evidence that it was robinsons clearance


ffs its me who supposed to act like a child

Bizarre !

That clip shows totally the opposite to expressed wisdom but most people !

Shorey gets a touch which sends the ball back towards Robinson who clearly boots it out wide.

Shorey gets pretty close to the winger but holds off when he could have flung himslef intot he tackle (and may have ben made to look a mug),.

So
1. It was 100% Robinson who cleared it
2. Shorey was probably a touch too far off his man and was in a position to have got closer.

[UpNorth]

Nope - it was defintely Robinson who cleared the ball just as Shorey was about to deal with it.

A bit hard on Shorey blaming him for the goal - he was never going to get out to block the cross in time.

[southbank1871]

I didn't see the first half and so I've only seen the replays, but I thought it was Robinson's clearance.

[Stranded]

I'll hold my hands up then if that's what people are seeing - sworn blind it was Shorey's clearance when watching both live and on the replays.

[Great Knolly]

It looked like Shorey cleared it from every camera angle except one, and from that angle it looks obvious that Robinson cleared it.

[Only one Trevor Morley]

Wow - I'm totally wrong. i would have staked everything on Shorey being the one who cleared it.

[Franchise FC]

Can we just clear this up.

A bloke in my office is insisting that for Germany's first goal, it was Shorey who hacked it out to Germany's right wing and then the bloke slung the cross back in.

But the way I saw it, it was Robinson who hacked it out.

Who is right?

you are

def robinson

should have left it to shorey (and held the shot in the first place!)

i thought it was definitely shorey who cleared it.

oh dear - maybe i had more to drink than i thought!

i still say robinson but maybe some one needs to find the you tube link so we can all watch again!

It was absolutely Robinson. In fact, had he left it to the left-footed Shorey, who would have put his foot through the ball into row Z, England would not have conceded that farcical effort.

We would have had to wait for another farcical effort later.

[Huntley & Palmer]

It was Andy Hinchcliffe's clearance, Woods should have done better

[Top Flight]

If Reading played England, we would win!

England are so useless....... There is so much pressure on the team that all the players play such useless unadventurous football.

They don't have the guts to try and play a little bit. Shorey didn't make enough forward runs and when he got the ball, no one ran into areas so that he could play them in. He kept having to sweep it across the back four.

[Franchise FC]

If Reading played England, we would win!

England are so useless....... There is so much pressure on the team that all the players play such useless unadventurous football.

They don't have the guts to try and play a little bit. Shorey didn't make enough forward runs and when he got the ball, no one ran into areas so that he could play them in. He kept having to sweep it across the back four.

I disagree entirely. Shorey was not helped by the fact that it took Joe Cole 37 minutes to pass the ball to him (and yes, I was watching for it), and then when he did it was a bloody hospital ball.

Not much use charging forward if you ain't gonna get the ball, methinks.