Shorey...

[Royalwaster]

SMc in shock switch to 4-5-1 at 3:0 up ... yawn!

[rg6royal]

why is Phil Neville even in the England squad?

[PEARCEY]

why is Phil Neville even in the England squad?

You have to wonder because he could not hold down a place at Man Utd and is hardly setting the place on fire at Goodison.........and he is not exactly one for the future is he.

[Oi Oi Saveloy]

Nicky Shorey does deserve a bench place but not a place in the first XI. He's not been performing well for club so he only desires a place on the bench for England.

Agree and as much as I hate to say it, he has looked out of his depth at international level IMO.

[Coppelled Streets]

Nicky Shorey does deserve a bench place but not a place in the first XI. He's not been performing well for club so he only desires a place on the bench for England.

Agree and as much as I hate to say it, he has looked out of his depth at international level IMO.

Has he?

He more than held his own against Brazil for a start. He has neither set the international world a light (how many defenders do?) nor has he looked out of his depth IMO.

[Muskrat]

If Shorey isn't on the bench does that mean he's picked up an injury or is mcLOLaren just being a twonk?

There's no need for a specialist left-back on the bench if you have a "Lescott"

You're joking aren't you? Lescott was a liability when he came on.

[Kevin Doyles Right Foot]

i think he was taking the piss, at least i hope he was...

[AthleticoSpizz]

Everybody except McClown thought that Shorey should have replaced Ashley at half time (at 3-0 up).............had Shorey actually have been in the squad.


3-0 up...and yet still an own goal scored by McClown

[Royal Rother]

I've been on this forum for 6 years or so now and obviously significantly above the average age, but these days the more I read the more I realise what an immature, obnoxious, sexist and unpleasant bunch of morons support Reading Football Club.

not all of us are like that on here thats a bit harsh

Agreed. If the cap doesn't fit then you won't be wearing it.

[Alan Partridge]

Whilst not to get caught up with the NONCE SENSE on this thread. What has Shorey done this season to warrant a call up? Why should he play instead of Everton's captain and a very underrated player at that. Neville has 60 caps or so but of course he's hopeless. Each and every single one of you know if he was at Reading a) he would walk into our side and probably be captain and b) you'd all be screaming for him to play for England. The sheer biased, blinkered views on here are laughable at times.

Shorey has been part of a quite frankly awful defence for the most part and his performances have been well down on last years efforts. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve being in the squad.

When he has played he's done OK, 6 out of 10's in every game. But nothing to special to deserve starting or being 2nd choice. It won't be long before Leighton Baines takes that spot anyway.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Whilst not to get caught up with the NONCE SENSE on this thread. What has Shorey done this season to warrant a call up? Why should he play instead of Everton's captain and a very underrated player at that. Neville has 60 caps or so but of course he's hopeless. Each and every single one of you know if he was at Reading a) he would walk into our side and probably be captain and b) you'd all be screaming for him to play for England. The sheer biased, blinkered views on here are laughable at times.

Shorey has been part of a quite frankly awful defence for the most part and his performances have been well down on last years efforts. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve being in the squad.

When he has played he's done OK, 6 out of 10's in every game. But nothing to special to deserve starting or being 2nd choice. It won't be long before Leighton Baines takes that spot anyway.

Whilst I am delighted that McCLown deems Shorey unworthy of even a place on the bench (the more national exposure he gets..the bigger his boots will be), the alternatives that are served up are from the team of 5 years ago (passionless and proven failures)...at 3-0 up, if you cannot field anyone more inspiring than a Neville.........then when will you?

[Ian Royal]

Phil Neville came on and looked poor. Lescott came on and looked very poor. If Neville didn't play at Left back tonight he's hardly likely to be playing at left back on wednesday and with Lescott's poor showing you'd have to hope he won't either.

Shorey hasn't been great this season, but he has got more international experience against high quality teams than Lescott and is a LB specialist You'd think that would put him up the pecking order.

In an ideal world Cashley will be fit, but that looks unlikely. I think it could go either way as to whether Shorey plays. Either way it's not a great choice.

Didn't Lampard look utter gash when he came on!? And I didn't think that much of J Cole either, though at least he passes to ashley.

Shearer surprisingly got it right. In the first half we played well because all of the pairs played together properly. We had balance all over the pitch. Great to see. There is hope yet.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Phil Neville came on and looked poor. Lescott came on and looked very poor. If Neville didn't play at Left back tonight he's hardly likely to be playing at left back on wednesday and with Lescott's poor showing you'd have to hope he won't either.

Shorey hasn't been great this season, but he has got more international experience against high quality teams than Lescott and is a LB specialist You'd think that would put him up the pecking order.

In an ideal world Cashley will be fit, but that looks unlikely. I think it could go either way as to whether Shorey plays. Either way it's not a great choice.

Didn't Lampard look utter gash when he came on!? And I didn't think that much of J Cole either, though at least he passes to ashley.

Shearer surprisingly got it right. In the first half we played well because all of the pairs played together properly. We had balance all over the pitch. Great to see. There is hope yet.

..and Talksport said that we had two lucky goals against a pub team.

[PEARCEY]

Whilst not to get caught up with the NONCE SENSE on this thread. What has Shorey done this season to warrant a call up? Why should he play instead of Everton's captain and a very underrated player at that. Neville has 60 caps or so but of course he's hopeless. Each and every single one of you know if he was at Reading a) he would walk into our side and probably be captain and b) you'd all be screaming for him to play for England. The sheer biased, blinkered views on here are laughable at times.

Shorey has been part of a quite frankly awful defence for the most part and his performances have been well down on last years efforts. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve being in the squad.

When he has played he's done OK, 6 out of 10's in every game. But nothing to special to deserve starting or being 2nd choice. It won't be long before Leighton Baines takes that spot anyway.

Cant agree with you AP re Phil Neville..I have never understood why he repeatedy was selected for England when not even playing for his club side. I struggle to recall him putting in any good performances at international level.

[Behindu]

..and Talksport said that we had two lucky goals against a pub team.

all three were lucky - poor keeping for the first.

But then if you want to you can analyse any goal and decide there was an element of 'luck' about it.

[rg6royal]

..and Talksport said that we had two lucky goals against a pub team.

all three were lucky - poor keeping for the first.

But then if you want to you can analyse any goal and decide there was an element of 'luck' about it.

true

[Oi Oi Saveloy]

Nicky Shorey does deserve a bench place but not a place in the first XI. He's not been performing well for club so he only desires a place on the bench for England.

Agree and as much as I hate to say it, he has looked out of his depth at international level IMO.

Has he?

He more than held his own against Brazil for a start. He has neither set the international world a light (how many defenders do?) nor has he looked out of his depth IMO.

Jay I think you are wearing your RTG's. Was at fault for one of Germany's goals and failed to put in a decent cross during both games and got to the point where Cole just stopped passing to him.

I don't like to slate a player as apart from a mediocre start to the season for us, he is one of our best players, but he has not looked great for England and can have no complaints if he doesn;t start and I fully expect him not to.

[Behindu]

Was he at fault for the goal where Robinson hacked it off his toes ?

Cole never started passing to him so hard to see how he coul dhave stopped !!

And given that Cole didn;t pass to him he would have been hard pressed to hit many crosses !

Shorey's been a 6 in the games he's played - nothing special, but done nothing wrong. Hasn;t forced himself into the strating line up but done nothing to suggest he shoul dbe dropped. Will need to up his game if he wants to become a fixture though.

[Ian Royal]

Was he at fault for the goal where Robinson hacked it off his toes ?

Cole never started passing to him so hard to see how he coul dhave stopped !!

And given that Cole didn;t pass to him he would have been hard pressed to hit many crosses !

Shorey's been a 6 in the games he's played - nothing special, but done nothing wrong. Hasn;t forced himself into the strating line up but done nothing to suggest he shoul dbe dropped. Will need to up his game if he wants to become a fixture though.

Spot on.

[Oi Oi Saveloy]

Was he at fault for the goal where Robinson hacked it off his toes ?

Cole never started passing to him so hard to see how he coul dhave stopped !!

And given that Cole didn;t pass to him he would have been hard pressed to hit many crosses !

Shorey's been a 6 in the games he's played - nothing special, but done nothing wrong. Hasn;t forced himself into the strating line up but done nothing to suggest he shoul dbe dropped. Will need to up his game if he wants to become a fixture though.

Spot on.

RTG's in the post for both of you.