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Re: Dunne Injury?

by seahawk10 » 10 Mar 2008 03:17

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Dirk Gently Let's not forget that a keeper should never let himself get beaten at his near post - and Hart did twice.


That's incredibly harsh!! Absolutely no chance with the 1st and wasn't at fault for the 2nd IMO.



Do you think that Joe Hart has a tendency to cheat away from the short side? Do you think Reading coaches picked up on this? It did seem that a lot of shots were attempted short side, whether it was a coincidence or by plan it worked.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by RoyalBlue » 10 Mar 2008 08:20

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Dirk Gently Let's not forget that a keeper should never let himself get beaten at his near post - and Hart did twice.


That's incredibly harsh!! Absolutely no chance with the 1st and wasn't at fault for the 2nd IMO.



Do you think that Joe Hart has a tendency to cheat away from the short side? Do you think Reading coaches picked up on this? It did seem that a lot of shots were attempted short side, whether it was a coincidence or by plan it worked.


Could someone please translate that into English/football terminology from what I assume is US/Soccer speak?! :wink:

Are we talking weak on the near post here?

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by seahawk10 » 10 Mar 2008 19:17

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That's incredibly harsh!! Absolutely no chance with the 1st and wasn't at fault for the 2nd IMO.



Do you think that Joe Hart has a tendency to cheat away from the short side? Do you think Reading coaches picked up on this? It did seem that a lot of shots were attempted short side, whether it was a coincidence or by plan it worked.


Could someone please translate that into English/football terminology from what I assume is US/Soccer speak?! :wink:

Are we talking weak on the near post here?


Sorry, still rough on the proper terminology. I saw quite a few shot attempts to the near post, it seemed like that was the 'game plan'. Not having been a fan my whole life some of the subtleties pass me by at times. I am wondering if teams in the Prem will study game tapes to look for weak spots in their opponents game? Does Joe Hart have a reputation of cheating (or leaning) towards the far post on shot attempts. Both goals were taken near post, and a few of Doyles attempt were toward the near post (even though they usually went into the side-netting). Or am I reading too much into this and it was just a happy coincidence?

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by SteveRoyal » 10 Mar 2008 19:28

chilipepper91 Slightly random, but does anyone know why Hart was so angry after the game?


...because his team lost.
And he conceded 2 goals.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Ian Royal » 10 Mar 2008 22:02

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Do you think that Joe Hart has a tendency to cheat away from the short side? Do you think Reading coaches picked up on this? It did seem that a lot of shots were attempted short side, whether it was a coincidence or by plan it worked.


Could someone please translate that into English/football terminology from what I assume is US/Soccer speak?! :wink:

Are we talking weak on the near post here?


Sorry, still rough on the proper terminology. I saw quite a few shot attempts to the near post, it seemed like that was the 'game plan'. Not having been a fan my whole life some of the subtleties pass me by at times. I am wondering if teams in the Prem will study game tapes to look for weak spots in their opponents game? Does Joe Hart have a reputation of cheating (or leaning) towards the far post on shot attempts. Both goals were taken near post, and a few of Doyles attempt were toward the near post (even though they usually went into the side-netting). Or am I reading too much into this and it was just a happy coincidence?


I believe the widely held opinion is that you should shoot far post as it has the best chance of coming back out off the keeper and falling to a team mate, or going in off a defender's foot. Also Keepers should have the near post covered pretty well. It's a big old sin to let one in there.

Which is why you often see strikers shape to go far and then hit it low near as the keeper is expecting a far post shot


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Re: Dunne Injury?

by RoyalBlue » 10 Mar 2008 22:27

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floyd__streete Absolutely clattered in a fair 50/50 challenge by Hunty, the Bionic Man. Won us the game probably, what with City's centre-half issues.


I'm in absolute shock that this is being taken so wrongly by so many. :shock:

It wasn't anywhere near a challenge, let alone a 50/50 one! Dunne 100% clattered into Hunt and probably a little too aggresively and not far off from a foul in my opinion.

Hunt was simply running with the ball totally innocently and Dunne came in on him HARD.

I'm surprised Hunt wasn't injured. No foul play at all, but if anyone is going to be accused of a foul it'd be Dunne for an extremely hard challenge on a player running full pelt.

Not even sure I can say Dunne didn't deserve it.

Glad he's ok though - just a gash.


Was going to add something after reading first few posts but 2ww 1wc has it spot on.
This was right in front of me, I heard the crunch and I was expecting Hunt to be injured. It was a very physical tackle, designed to hit the player hard. Nothing wrong with that but don't blame anyone else - it was Dunne's doing


I notice that Hunt was wearing blades though. There have been concerns expressed about these being more likely than studs to end up cutting opposing players and not just from Sir Alex: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... _rage.html

Medical experts have also suggested that blades lead to a greater incidence of ankle, knee and metatarsal injuries as they prevent the foot rotating sufficiently and thus additional stress is placed through the knee and ankle joints as well as the foot. I believe even Craig Johnston, who introduced blades with his Predator boot design, has now spoken about the risks they pose and no longer favours them.

Given these concerns, I am surprised to see so many Reading players are still wearing boots with blades.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Dirk Gently » 11 Mar 2008 09:39

Jon Fearn thinks there is no difference in the number and extent of injuries between players wearing blades and those wearing studs.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by sucatraps » 11 Mar 2008 10:05

There is some evidence to suggest blades are best for straight running, do cause more serious cuts than round studs and that there are greater stresses involved with twisting and turning. The variables are enormous, every square foot of turf being different subject to weather etc. Many years ago there were experiments with a friction clutch plate stud, part of the boot sole, but it could move under high pressure to enable players to twist as they changed direction. I think the idea vanished without trace! :shock:

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by coyrls » 11 Mar 2008 10:09

I was speaking to a City fan who was at the game. He thought at the time when Dunne went into the tackle that is was deliberately aggressive (though just on the right side of a foul) as some sort of revenge for Hunt's particularly bad tackle earlier this season at Man City (for which Hunt later apologised). As such Dune was taking the risk of injuring either Hunt or himself.


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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Stranded » 11 Mar 2008 12:42

Nothing wrong with a "deliberately aggessive" tackle. If the tackle is fair, it can be as hard as the player wants to make it. A proper challenge.

The photos you have chosen to use were not decent or proper challenges.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Y25 » 11 Mar 2008 13:38

I thought it was quite funny seeing as he basically ran into Hunt who didn't know too much about it

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by brendywendy » 11 Mar 2008 14:58

Stranded Nothing wrong with a "deliberately aggessive" tackle. If the tackle is fair, it can be as hard as the player wants to make it. A proper challenge.

The photos you have chosen to use were not decent or proper challenges.


dunnes was on the verge of being a bad tackle, didnt think he even got the ball, and just ran straight into a guy going 100 MPH towards him

got what he deserved, especially if it was a bit of revenge for an earlier tackle

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Platypuss » 11 Mar 2008 15:43

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Stranded Nothing wrong with a "deliberately aggessive" tackle. If the tackle is fair, it can be as hard as the player wants to make it. A proper challenge.

The photos you have chosen to use were not decent or proper challenges.


dunnes was on the verge of being a bad tackle, didnt think he even got the ball, and just ran straight into a guy going 100 MPH towards him

got what he deserved, especially if it was a bit of revenge for an earlier tackle


Dunne got the ball fairly and cleanly - he was actually too fast for his own good!

Hunt was about to knock the ball forward but actually connected with Dunne as he took the ball away a fraction ahead of him.


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Re: Dunne Injury?

by fridays child » 11 Mar 2008 15:52

Stranded Nothing wrong with a "deliberately aggessive" tackle. If the tackle is fair, it can be as hard as the player wants to make it. A proper challenge.

The photos you have chosen to use were not decent or proper challenges.


Both are very good examples of where the agressor ended up worse off. Although Roy had another go a year or so later.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by sucatraps » 11 Mar 2008 15:59

That Friday Feeling http://forums.lfconline.com/showthread.php?t=67031

:wink:


Hmmmm! I wonder how much stick Hunty will get at Anfield from the paragons of all things virtuous, good, wholesome, fair and wonderful??? :roll:

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 11 Mar 2008 18:44

sucatraps
That Friday Feeling http://forums.lfconline.com/showthread.php?t=67031

:wink:


Hmmmm! I wonder how much stick Hunty will get at Anfield from the paragons of all things virtuous, good, wholesome, fair and wonderful??? :roll:

it does show the power of the media though to shape opinions. Hunt isn't even really a hard tackler to any degree, yet loads are now convinced he spends every week kicking lumps out of people.

The Man City fans kept booing him after Dunne went off, somehow convinced Hunt took him out.

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Re: Dunne Injury?

by readingbedding » 11 Mar 2008 19:42

Rev Algenon Stickleback H
sucatraps
That Friday Feeling http://forums.lfconline.com/showthread.php?t=67031

:wink:


Hmmmm! I wonder how much stick Hunty will get at Anfield from the paragons of all things virtuous, good, wholesome, fair and wonderful??? :roll:

it does show the power of the media though to shape opinions. Hunt isn't even really a hard tackler to any degree, yet loads are now convinced he spends every week kicking lumps out of people.

The Man City fans kept booing him after Dunne went off, somehow convinced Hunt took him out.


Hunt did make a nasty tackle at their place earlier this season.

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