THE INQUEST

[mr_number]

[quote="Southbank Old Boy]
Another £3m-£5m on wages and perhaps £5-10m on new signings and we'd have probably been comfortable.[/quote]

another £5-10 million on signings would inetivably be more than £5 million on wages per year- Hunt's on nearly £3 million a year...
Other than that, I'm not in the mood to get involved in this thread. If people think that heads should role for our two season stay in the top flight, then they won't be missed next year.

[Southbank Old Boy]

another £5-10 million on signings would inetivably be more than £5 million on wages per year- Hunt's on nearly £3 million a year...
Other than that, I'm not in the mood to get involved in this thread. If people think that heads should role for our two season stay in the top flight, then they won't be missed next year.

Hunts on £25k a week. In my book that works out to be about £1.3m not £3!

If we'd added another 3 players who are good enough to justify being on 25k then we'd have been much better equiped to avoid the drop.

[Number 9]

the same management team that denied that 2nd season syndrome did not exist

So they accepted its existence?

Without SSC and JM we would never have been in the Premier League in order to be able to be relegated from it. A few more seasons would have been nice but we had t go down some time.

Stupid mentality. You don't build just to fail or there is no point in football. I don't know who is to blame, coppell for not buying or madejski for not giving him a big enough wage budget or transfer budget to buy, it lies with those two im afraid.
At the end of the day we pay the clubs money, we paid well over the odds for season tickets this season, more than parts of old trafford on the promise that the money was to " invest in the squad", we didn't, we are down. I'm furious with coppell and majejski, not the players.
We spend 135 years getting here and then we can't be bothered to make any effort to stay here, what a waste. Im not gutted at all, im sick of the sob stories I am reading so far like " im gutted, this hurts,etc", why? Its expected, there are no hurtful circumstances at all. You should be angry two men pissed away our premiership campaign because of lack of investment. Fulham are a better side with better player, thats why they stayed up, no other reason. We have had players out of form or injured all season and haven't bothered to replace, we DESERVE our fate.

Why is that a stupid mentality? Is it not just a realistic mentality? Yes, the failure to invest in better players may be the main reason we went down this season. But I don't think it was a case of not being 'bothered' to invest in he team, it was a case that it wasn't considered necessary at the time. In hindsight this appears to have been an error of judgement, but who's to say that if we had splashed the cash that things would have been any different? Birmingham spent a lot of money and still went down, and Fulham only survived by the skin of their teeth after spending nearly £30million this summer.

What is the point in fans apportioning blame? We've gone down. We may come back up, we may not. We may even go straight down again. If you can't accept that someone has to lose and someone has to be relegated each season then maybe you would be happier if you found something else to do on Saturdays?

[Number 9]

the same management team that denied that 2nd season syndrome did not exist

So they accepted its existence?

Without SSC and JM we would never have been in the Premier League in order to be able to be relegated from it. A few more seasons would have been nice but we had t go down some time.

Stupid mentality. You don't build just to fail or there is no point in football. I don't know who is to blame, coppell for not buying or madejski for not giving him a big enough wage budget or transfer budget to buy, it lies with those two im afraid.
At the end of the day we pay the clubs money, we paid well over the odds for season tickets this season, more than parts of old trafford on the promise that the money was to " invest in the squad", we didn't, we are down. I'm furious with coppell and majejski, not the players.
We spend 135 years getting here and then we can't be bothered to make any effort to stay here, what a waste. Im not gutted at all, im sick of the sob stories I am reading so far like " im gutted, this hurts,etc", why? Its expected, there are no hurtful circumstances at all. You should be angry two men pissed away our premiership campaign because of lack of investment. Fulham are a better side with better player, thats why they stayed up, no other reason. We have had players out of form or injured all season and haven't bothered to replace, we DESERVE our fate.

Why is that a stupid mentality? Is it not just a realistic mentality? Yes, the failure to invest in better players may be the main reason we went down this season. But I don't think it was a case of not being 'bothered' to invest in he team, it was a case that it wasn't considered necessary at the time. In hindsight this appears to have been an error of judgement, but who's to say that if we had splashed the cash that things would have been any different? Birmingham spent a lot of money and still went down, and Fulham only survived by the skin of their teeth after spending nearly £30million this summer.

What is the point in fans apportioning blame? We've gone down. We may come back up, we may not. We may even go straight down again. If you can't accept that someone has to lose and someone has to be relegated each season then maybe you would be happier if you found something else to do on Saturdays?

[zummerset]

What is the point of your daft posts Number 9? The management (all of them) screwed up and have to go. Its a fact that they made mistakes, signed players poorly and fecked up the Jan window. If this was my business then they would be fired not waiting for their options ...

[Southbank Old Boy]

But I don't think it was a case of not being 'bothered' to invest in he team, it was a case that it wasn't considered necessary at the time.

And there is the reason why we're down. We didn't do it because we thought better of it, even after our manager had said on numerous occassions that we needed to.

In hindsight this appears to have been an error of judgement, but who's to say that if we had splashed the cash that things would have been any different?

It's not hindsight for a hell of a lot of people. There were obvious weaknesses that could and should've been addressed.

Splashing the cash certainly wouldn't have guaranteed any different outcome, but it would've given us a much better chance of picking up more points since January and given us a really good chance of another season of Premiership football.

[Denver Royal]

What is the point in fans apportioning blame? We've gone down. We may come back up, we may not. We may even go straight down again. If you can't accept that someone has to lose and someone has to be relegated each season then maybe you would be happier if you found something else to do on Saturdays?

You realize this is a discussion forum, right? And as fans we discuss these things in here. Maybe its you who needs to find something better to do than be in here.

[Number 9]

What is the point of your daft posts Number 9? The management (all of them) screwed up and have to go. Its a fact that they made mistakes, signed players poorly and fecked up the Jan window. If this was my business then they would be fired not waiting for their options ...

Why would sacking the best and most successful manager we have ever had be a good thing to do?

[Big Ern]

I hope Sidwell is ashamed of himself

I wonder how he feels now....

You fooking tool

Steve Sidwell is probably too busy counting his money and looking forward to the Champions Leange Final with his club (although a place on the bench will be the best he will manage) to worry about us.

Blaming him is so pathetic and childish. I bet every single one of our current squad would happlily trade places with him now. The boys done well for himself, he owes us nothing.

Ad if RFC built a team thats success was dependant on one player tha more fool us.

[Gordons Cumming]

If we lose Coppell we can forget about bouncing back.

He is the best we've ever had and we must keep him at all costs.

Life is full of ups and downs.

If you get a down an up must surely follow.

[Dr Hfuhruhurr]

Has there ever been a premiership as weak as this one? The fact is we went down on GD and have had endless chances in the last half dozen games to correct that. Bolton, in particular, rankles. To go through the end of season run in without any goals when you are in a relegation situation is unforgiveable. Its the players fault, of course, but the person nearest to them in the list of 3 quoted is Coppell. PErsonally, when you see your left back position and whatever position Hunt is supposed to be populated by people who dont give a damn, then its up to the manager to either motivate them or drop them. We essentially played half a dozen games with 9 men, and given that these two men are international standard, we have every right to be angry at them. But when they play consistently badly they shouldnt be on the pitch at all. Coppell has made many mistakes, but you know what, I reckon he's big enough to learn from them so Id be happy for him to stay around.

[Number 9]

What is the point in fans apportioning blame? We've gone down. We may come back up, we may not. We may even go straight down again. If you can't accept that someone has to lose and someone has to be relegated each season then maybe you would be happier if you found something else to do on Saturdays?

You realize this is a discussion forum, right? And as fans we discuss these things in here. Maybe its you who needs to find something better to do than be in here.

Just trying to make the point that someone's got to go down each season, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be us. I think its a bit rich for fans to blame Coppell/Madejski when, all things considered, they have done an exceptionally good job for this club. If you look at this season in isolation then it has been disappointing, but SSC and JM do not deserve the slating they are getting on here.

[RoyalBlue]

What is the point in fans apportioning blame? We've gone down. We may come back up, we may not. We may even go straight down again. If you can't accept that someone has to lose and someone has to be relegated each season then maybe you would be happier if you found something else to do on Saturdays?

You realize this is a discussion forum, right? And as fans we discuss these things in here. Maybe its you who needs to find something better to do than be in here.

Just trying to make the point that someone's got to go down each season, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be us. I think its a bit rich for fans to blame Coppell/Madejski when, all things considered, they have done an exceptionally good job for this club. If you look at this season in isolation then it has been disappointing, but SSC and JM do not deserve the slating they are getting on here.

Sorry but Madejski does. He and his lap dog Howe have been giving it the real big up regarding their ambitions for this club in terms of Premier League football. They have spectacularly failed to walk the talk but have happily fleeced the fans (many of who spend a far greater percentage of their disposable income on supporting the club than either Madejski and Howe) in the meantime.

[Denver Royal]

If we lose Coppell we can forget about bouncing back.

He is the best we've ever had and we must keep him at all costs.

Well, he has another year left on his contract. So not sure the club needs to do anything really.

If he decides to walk, what can they do?

[Number 9]

Just trying to make the point that someone's got to go down each season, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be us. I think its a bit rich for fans to blame Coppell/Madejski when, all things considered, they have done an exceptionally good job for this club. If you look at this season in isolation then it has been disappointing, but SSC and JM do not deserve the slating they are getting on here.

Sorry but Madejski does. He and his lap dog Howe have been giving it the real big up regarding their ambitions for this club in terms of Premier League football. They have spectacularly failed to walk the talk but have happily fleeced the fans (many of who spend a far greater percentage of their disposable income on supporting the club than either Madejski and Howe) in the meantime.

Well I do agree with that. The big talk is annoying when its not followed by action. And the expense is excessive, but that is a football-wide problem. All things considered, we could not have a better chairman or manager in my opinion.

[Big Ern]

The reason for us going down is fairly staright forward IMO, it has ben our total failure in the transfer market

I doubt we will ever know if it was Madejski unwillingness to compete to pay the wages, or whether Coppell had funds but just wouldn't spend the money, but the fact remains, even when we have signed players, none of them have been a great success. Fae is a classic example of a player poorly scouted and contributing nothing, and the less sad about a certain full back signed from Colchester the better. Thank God Sunderland came alng and got u out of jail on that one.

With the exception of Bikey, the team has virtually stayed the same and it's past it's shelf-life. We failed to replace those that left and those who are not up to the job and we were always going to be a team in the decline in those circumstances.

It is harsh to blame the players, they gave thir all an were just not good enough. We have been let down by the clubs inability to compete in the transfer market, and those who bought a season ticket at the hugely increased price, should feel robbed by the club as the huge price increase was justified by the need to heavily invest in the team, which did not happen. Maybe the club should give those supporters a refund.....but theres more chance of ohn Madejski builidng something and not naming it after himself.

[RoyalBlue]

Maybe the club should give those supporters a refund.....but theres more chance of ohn Madejski builidng something and not naming it after himself.

But that wasn't his idea!

No, someone else suggested it and I'm sure he considered the idea carefully for at least a nanosecond before reluctantly agreeing!

[RoyalBlue]

Maybe the club should give those supporters a refund.....but theres more chance of ohn Madejski builidng something and not naming it after himself.

But that wasn't his idea!

No, someone else suggested it and I'm sure he considered the idea carefully for at least a nanosecond before reluctantly agreeing!

[Gus the teenage cow]

i can't sleep...i'm mulling over games where we dropped points, to go down by goal difference of 3 with fulham pfff, them winning 3 in a row away after none in 18 months

it is our fault though

i think of the sitters missed in the blackburn game...i think of failing to capitalise on last seasons 8th

but most of all i hope that this season wasn't the clubs one chance in history of making it big and we fcuked it up coz thats the one thought that means i can't breathe

that every club has 1 chance to get at the bigtime, like a wormhole in space-it only appears for a short while once in a blue moon and we failed to show the courage/ambition/daring to go through it and now we're marooned forever in a championship wasteland -i cant breathe

thanks for taking us there stevie but why oh why when we had a glimpse didn't we go though, having seen it, been so close, having touched it, to go back now to the nothingness and darkness and emptiness is too much to take, i am bereft, i can't breathe


how badly are you taking this?

in our lives will we ever come close to this greatness again and then walk away from it coz we don't believe we're good enough for it?

an absolute stunner is interested in us, we impress her greatly on the first date with our modesty and charm but on the second date we go along disshevelled and unshaven thinking we've already won her over and before you know it she's walking out on our date in burger king gone forever, i can't breathe


how badly have you taken this?


how can u sleep now knowing what has been lost? how can you?

[hiro]

Every breath you can't take
Every move you can't make
Every bond you can't break
Every sleep you can't take
I will be with your thought......