Bottom 3

[winchester_royal]

Demo's etc...... wouldn' work with this egomonster he would just hear his name being shouted out and think everyone is supporting him, he is such a vain arse !!

A vain arse who saved this club and kept the financially going through most of the '90s.

The worst thing about being in a relegation scrap is not the fear of going down, as it's quite possible we could do a Leicester/Soton and rebuild, but that idiotic comments like this become common amongst fans.

[Terminal Boardom]

If we'd appointed a new manager after the Plymouth game, and his first 3 results had been a draw and a win against Liverpool, followed by a narrow loss against the form side in the league, what would have been the reaction then??? But apparently McD can't take any credit because he's a scout masquerading as a manager.

Just wondering here, but who does those calling for a new manager have in mind, taking into account our position, and financial status?

Getting rid of BR, in my opinion, was the right thing to do. However, I think the club could have done better than appointing BM. The Chairman and his cronies are, to put it simply, deluded. We, the fans are left to suffer in silence.

The fire sale at the start of the season ripped the heart out of the club. Yes, it was unavoidable esp the selling of Doyle, Bikey and Shunt. But letting USA and Murts leave without renewing their contracts has proven to be a monumental cock up. The expulsion of Haprs and Rosenior is proving to be another disaster. 2 years ago, we narrowly lost to the biggest club in the country. In shortly over 6 months time we could be playing away to Rochdale and Lincoln. Relegation is bad enough. Sitting back and doing nothing about it is completely unacceptable. Enjoy!

[Tilehurst End]

We cannot do anything about other teams results and form but the bottom line is our destiny is still in our own hands. The key is to rediscover some form at home as we have massive games against Peterborough, Plymouth, Wednesday, Deby coming up as well as Barnsley, Preston and Coventry who could all be sucked into the battle. There's 20 odd points we're capable of getting and our away form is good enough to pick up results here and there whoever is in charge.

Now let's all switch off from divisional despair and look forward to being the first team in the 5th round.

[winchester_royal]

If we'd appointed a new manager after the Plymouth game, and his first 3 results had been a draw and a win against Liverpool, followed by a narrow loss against the form side in the league, what would have been the reaction then??? But apparently McD can't take any credit because he's a scout masquerading as a manager.

Just wondering here, but who does those calling for a new manager have in mind, taking into account our position, and financial status?

Getting rid of BR, in my opinion, was the right thing to do. However, I think the club could have done better than appointing BM. The Chairman and his cronies are, to put it simply, deluded. We, the fans are left to suffer in silence.

The fire sale at the start of the season ripped the heart out of the club. Yes, it was unavoidable esp the selling of Doyle, Bikey and Shunt. But letting USA and Murts leave without renewing their contracts has proven to be a monumental cock up. The expulsion of Haprs and Rosenior is proving to be another disaster. 2 years ago, we narrowly lost to the biggest club in the country. In shortly over 6 months time we could be playing away to Rochdale and Lincoln. Relegation is bad enough. Sitting back and doing nothing about it is completely unacceptable. Enjoy!

So what do we do then....spend money we don't have and then have to sell again in the summer?

No doubt the board believe, quite rightly IMO, that the current squad is easily good enough to stay up. If we go down then so be it, but I don't want the long term stability of this club threatened by panic spending.

[Blue Hooped Moose]

No doubt the board believe, quite rightly IMO, that the current squad is easily good enough to stay up. If we go down then so be it, but I don't want the long term stability of this club threatened by panic spending.

+ Infinity

[Wycombe Royal]

No doubt the board believe, quite rightly IMO, that the current squad is easily good enough to stay up. If we go down then so be it, but I don't want the long term stability of this club threatened by panic spending.

+ Infinity

I can't beat "infinity" so I'll just plump for a +1.

And this squad IS good enough to get us out of the problems we find ourselves in, but a golascorer would certainly be helpful.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

I Am of the opinion that SJM and his pals went too far with the revolution after SSC left. we knew that certain players would leave, I don't really think there is much complaint with that.

Where i think they went wrong was employing BR, he had barely started at Watford, and showed very little loyalty by walking away so soon, not a good thing in a person IMHO, the RFC job is no better than the Watford one.

JM then made the mistake of allowing BR bring in some journeymen players, when we had a good core of youngsters here, and really needed a slow progression, rather than a massive changearound.

[Terminal Boardom]

No doubt the board believe, quite rightly IMO, that the current squad is easily good enough to stay up. If we go down then so be it, but I don't want the long term stability of this club threatened by panic spending.

+ Infinity

I can't beat "infinity" so I'll just plump for a +1.

And this squad IS good enough to get us out of the problems we find ourselves in, but a golascorer would certainly be helpful.

What a blatant contradiction! The squad is good enough but a goalscorer would be helpful.

Don't you know anything? We have scored in the last 10 games or so. It is keeping them out at the other end which is the problem!

Face facts. We are not good enough. We ill get relegated. When we hit League 1, our high earners and best players will be sold on as we need to cut the cloth accordingly. What happens next? We have a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds playing for us??? Then relegation to League 2. It is a vicius cicle but everything is ok. The Club is solvent and well run. Never mind, there are at least a dozen clubs who will go into Administration and save us from relegation to the Conference. We are well run and well respected in the football world.

Enjoy!

[West Stand Flash]

Terminal Boredom, just give up. Majority of the tools on this board are as deluded as Madesjki, Howe and Hammond, so don't expect to get too much out if them.
Everyone seems to be happy to get relegated and plod along in the lowerr leagues when it could have been so different. Sad really, but I guess it sums up your average pathetic Reading fan.

[Blue Hooped Moose]

We are well run and well respected in the football world.

I'd rather have a well run SOLVENT club that I can take my grandchildren to see in 40 years time (albeit in the lower leagues) then have to tell them stories about our couple of seasons in the sun and how we collapsed in a financial mess. There is no money to spend - there is feck all we (the fans) can do about it, and very little Mr Mad can (or will) do about it. Not great but those are the cards we're dealt.

Terminal Boredom, just give up. Majority of the tools on this board are as deluded as Madesjki, Howe and Hammond, so don't expect to get too much out if them.
Everyone seems to be happy to get relegated and plod along in the lowerr leagues when it could have been so different. Sad really, but I guess it sums up your average pathetic Reading fan.

I'm not happy to get relegated - but I'd be a lot less happy with my club going bust.

As for average fans... that's what I was trying to say earlier. The average fan now seems to be some deluded twats who think that there is a bottomless supply of money sloshing around and we can afford to spunk it up the wall on players and managers that would not guarantee us league safety.

[dean horrix legend]

The only people who dont seem to give a toss about our present position and what has happened over the past couple of years is the prick of an egomonster and his sidekicks !! Do they have any idea just how pissed off people are with them and with the complete drivel the egomonster comes out with, strong squad, great manager in charge what a load of bollox!!

If he had any thought on getting us out of this position he would have brought a new man in by now...........................what the hell was the point of getting rid of BR if we are not going to make any effort to replace him ?? another stupid decision, which undoubtdly was money driven.

This git is going to take us back where he found us, and will wallow in the glory ,when he finally goes, about during his time he took us to the premiership in what ever year it was.

I've accepted relegation, just think it's so appalibg how Madejski is just allowing it to happan and doing fck all about it.
No ambition and cheapest option can only take you so far.

You should feel proud Mr Madejski for ruining our club!!

These two statements sum up my feelings. Sadly, what will be done about the situation? NOTHING. And what will the Reading fans do about it? EVEN LESS. FFS, we deserve to go down because our fans our noting but spineless shits. If we were any other club there would have been pitch invasions, riots, demos, the lot! You get what you deserve in life. Enjoy League 1 football next season suckers!

Can you give some examples of pitch invasions riots and demos at clubs that have been in a similar situation to us because i'm struggling to think of any.

Still waiting for a reply to this,have you found any yet?

[Wycombe Royal]

+ Infinity

I can't beat "infinity" so I'll just plump for a +1.

And this squad IS good enough to get us out of the problems we find ourselves in, but a golascorer would certainly be helpful.

What a blatant contradiction! The squad is good enough but a goalscorer would be helpful.

Don't you know anything? We have scored in the last 10 games or so. It is keeping them out at the other end which is the problem!

Face facts. We are not good enough. We ill get relegated. When we hit League 1, our high earners and best players will be sold on as we need to cut the cloth accordingly. What happens next? We have a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds playing for us??? Then relegation to League 2. It is a vicius cicle but everything is ok. The Club is solvent and well run. Never mind, there are at least a dozen clubs who will go into Administration and save us from relegation to the Conference. We are well run and well respected in the football world.

Enjoy!

With the exception of away to Coventry and home to Palace we have only scored one goal in those games. That is still not good enough. We have scored 9 goals at home in 12 matches. That is not good enough. If we start scoring more then the defensive issues will ease as there won't be so much pressure on us to keep clean sheets.

As for what you claim is a contradiction - how? Is said the squad IS good enough, but that a goalscorer would be HELPFUL. THerefore by saying it IS good enough I am saying exactly that. Where is the contradicition?

As for the rest of your rant - what a load of rubbish. Can you list the clubs in recent times that the scenario you paint has happened to and then list those that it hasn't happened to. I know which will be longer.

[Hoop Blah]

Still waiting for a reply to this,have you found any yet?

How about Birmingham at the end of the season they went down. They had Gold in tears!

As for the current position, I think it looks a lot worse now than it did a month or so ago. I happen to think we'd have been in a healthier position right now if they hadn't sacked Rodgers, but then not picking up more points in a few supposedly winnable games before his departure plays a big part in where we are now after a more tricky run of games.

I agree with the view that we're still in a bit of limbo under the current setup, and something needs to happen to turn this around. As much as I quite like the way McDermott has gone about things, I still think we need to see some clear and decisive action in the next few weeks to pull give us a decent chance of survival.

[Terminal Boardom]

Enjoy!

With the exception of away to Coventry and home to Palace we have only scored one goal in those games. That is still not good enough. We have scored 9 goals at home in 12 matches. That is not good enough. If we start scoring more then the defensive issues will ease as there won't be so much pressure on us to keep clean sheets.

As for what you claim is a contradiction - how? Is said the squad IS good enough, but that a goalscorer would be HELPFUL. THerefore by saying it IS good enough I am saying exactly that. Where is the contradicition?

As for the rest of your rant - what a load of rubbish. Can you list the clubs in recent times that the scenario you paint has happened to and then list those that it hasn't happened to. I know which will be longer.[/quote]

Clubs that have plummetted in the past? Simples!

Luton Town
Bradford City
Northampton Town
Swindon
Swansea
Huddersfield Town
Oxford United

Of these, two are now in the Conference!

HTH!

[Terminal Boardom]

Still waiting for a reply to this,have you found any yet?

Wooo! Bully Boy tactics from the ringpiece!

Plenty of demos and the like all over the place throughout the years. Instead of viewing life and experiencing it as if it finished at te end of your nose try getting more of a broader perspective on things.

Just how much "evidence" do you need? Sothampton? Leeds? Man Utd? Liverpool? Birmingham? Even Chester City! Even at Reading prior to TB1s departure, and before Branfoot was removed. Did you ever sit in the middle of Norfolk Rd? Thought not!

[Blue Hooped Moose]

Wooo! Bully Boy tactics from the ringpiece!

Plenty of demos and the like all over the place throughout the years. Instead of viewing life and experiencing it as if it finished at te end of your nose try getting more of a broader perspective on things.

Just how much "evidence" do you need? Sothampton? Leeds? Man Utd? Liverpool? Birmingham? Even Chester City! Even at Reading prior to TB1s departure, and before Branfoot was removed. Did you ever sit in the middle of Norfolk Rd? Thought not!

Ok, so lets just say this demo is a good idea... what exactly are you going to demo for?

[Wycombe Royal]

Clubs that have plummetted in the past? Simples!

Luton Town
Bradford City
Northampton Town
Swindon
Swansea
Huddersfield Town
Oxford United

Of these, two are now in the Conference!

HTH!

How many of those have been in recent times and how many of those were due to financial problems rather than controlled cost cutting to maintain financial stability. And where is the list of clubs who haven't plumetted? Of course that wouldn't support your rant.

But 7 clubs over the past few decades hardly supports your view does it?

Try looking at the bigger picture rather than just the blinkered view of what supports your rant.

[Ian Royal]

But the whole point of life is to iprove and continually improve. It is called evolution. We are more evostick at the moment and the stickyness is fast withering.

Tell that to crocodiles and sharks.

[CMRoyal]

Clubs that have plummetted in the past? Simples!

Luton Town
Bradford City
Northampton Town
Swindon
Swansea
Huddersfield Town
Oxford United

Of these, two are now in the Conference!

HTH!

Most of them are third tier level, which is our natural position. I know that will bring howls of derision from some, but the way our profile has plummeted along with Sir John's financial strength recently shows he's been keeping us in a false positon all these years.

Back to life. Back to reality.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Wooo! Bully Boy tactics from the ringpiece!

Plenty of demos and the like all over the place throughout the years. Instead of viewing life and experiencing it as if it finished at te end of your nose try getting more of a broader perspective on things.

Just how much "evidence" do you need? Sothampton? Leeds? Man Utd? Liverpool? Birmingham? Even Chester City! Even at Reading prior to TB1s departure, and before Branfoot was removed. Did you ever sit in the middle of Norfolk Rd? Thought not!

Ok, so lets just say this demo is a good idea... what exactly are you going to demo for?

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