Long - time for a change?

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 08 Mar 2011 23:07

Official League Top-Scorers

19 Graham Watford

18 Long Reading FC

16 Becchio Leeds
16 Sinclair Swansea

15 Bothroyd Cardiff
15 Holt Norwich
15 Sharp Doncaster
15 Taarabt QPR

14 Gradel Leeds

13 King Leicester

12 Morison Millwall

11 Iwelumo Burnley
11 McGugan Nott'm Forest
11 Somma Leeds

10 HARTE Reading FC
10 Helguson QPR

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Tails » 08 Mar 2011 23:10

Snowball!! You are just showing off now.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 08 Mar 2011 23:11

Tails Snowball!! You are just showing off now.


and it feeeels GREAT

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 08 Mar 2011 23:19

Update

Shane has now played 10,236 Minutes for RFC, for 49 RFC Goals, a goal every 208 Minutes or 2.29 Games

His 20 Goals (with 11+ games to go) is already 2 better than Kevin Doyle's best RFC Season

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by URZZ » 09 Mar 2011 00:57

Off the subject of stats and whatnot, but still, I hope this is to your interest, I was browsing through OS history and found this link an interesting read.

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 43,00.html

18 year-old Shane Long today joined from Cork City on a two-year contract, and the striker is delighted to be joining what he called a 'Premiership standard' club


3 months later we went on to have the season of our history, almost proving his claim right.

But yeah, I found it a good read.

Also, look how much he's grown up since signing for us!




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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Arch » 09 Mar 2011 01:18

URZZ

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by readingbedding » 09 Mar 2011 08:36

Long is rubbish, we should sell him and get Raziak back or buy Earnshaw.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 09 Mar 2011 10:08

readingbedding Long is rubbish, we should sell him and get Raziak back or buy Earnshaw.


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Re: Long - time for a change?

by KC Royal » 09 Mar 2011 18:26

Snowball Shane is now competing with the top RFC goal-scorers since 2002-03

2005-06 22 Dave Kitson
2010-11 20 Shane Long (still at least 11 more games to play)
2009-10 20 Gylfi Siggurdson
2005-06 19 Kevin Doyle
2004-05 19 Dave Kitson
2008-09 18 Kevin Doyle
2002-03 16 Nicky Forster
2005-06 15 Leroy Lita
2003-04 14 Shaun Goater
2006-07 14 Leroy Lita
2006-07 13 Kevin Doyle
2003-04 11 Nicky Forster
2007-08 10 Dave Kitson


I would be surprised if Long didn't surpass Kitson's tally of 22 now. Realistically though it would only be a better achievement if Long got over 25 as Kitson was out injured for a month or two of that season.


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Re: Long - time for a change?

by purleyroyal » 09 Mar 2011 20:45

URZZ


We have Zaphod Beeblebrox playing for us? :shock:

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 09 Mar 2011 21:32

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Snowball Shane is now competing with the top RFC goal-scorers since 2002-03

2005-06 22 Dave Kitson
2010-11 20 Shane Long (still at least 11 more games to play)
2009-10 20 Gylfi Siggurdson
2005-06 19 Kevin Doyle
2004-05 19 Dave Kitson
2008-09 18 Kevin Doyle
2002-03 16 Nicky Forster
2005-06 15 Leroy Lita
2003-04 14 Shaun Goater
2006-07 14 Leroy Lita
2006-07 13 Kevin Doyle
2003-04 11 Nicky Forster
2007-08 10 Dave Kitson


I would be surprised if Long didn't surpass Kitson's tally of 22 now. Realistically though it would only be a better achievement if Long got over 25 as Kitson was out injured for a month or two of that season.



BEING INJURED IS A WEAKNESS (I SHOULD KNOW)

A GREAT PLAYER PLAYS ON. SEE THE BLOOD AND BANDAGES ON LONG



Long next goals

1 away to Man City
1 in replay
2 away to Barnsley
1 home to Portsmouth
1 away to Forest
1 away to Scunny
1 Home to Leicester (subbed off for Manset who scores 3)
scores only goal at Leeds
Hat-Trick against Preston, and away at Coventry
Scores 4 home to Derby
Fails to score in semi-final of FA Cup but Hunt scores winner v Arsenal
Brace wins Wembley FA Cup Final
2 1-0 wins in PO semis (Hunt both times)
Goal each for Hunt and Long gets RFC promoted


22 Goals, 42 for season

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 13 Mar 2011 11:32

McDermott

Tell us how Shane Long has done this season.


Fantastically well. He's done that over a period of time, all he needed was games.
Under Steve [Coppell] he was off the bench as a youngster, he tried to bring him on,
then he didn't play so many games under Brendan and he just needed to play games.

(Now where have I heard that before?)

He can play every day, he's that type, he can play with injuries, the players and staff have such respect for him.

Are you afraid someone will come in for him?


He's got 20 goals, it's out of your hands. When you've got someone with 20 goals, doing that
well, it goes with the territory.

Personally I'd keep him forever but I'm sure that won't be the case.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 13 Mar 2011 21:50

When Sheffield United went down to 9 men I had visions of Graham scoring 4 goals.

Just the one, thank God.


Otherwise Shane got a game in hand over the rest most of who failed.

Official League Top-Scorers

20 Graham Watford EDIT

18 Long Reading FC

16 Becchio Leeds
16 Sinclair Swansea

15 Bothroyd Cardiff
15 Holt Norwich
15 Sharp Doncaster
15 Taarabt QPR

14 Gradel Leeds

13 King Leicester

12 Morison Millwall
12 Helguson QPR EDIT

11 Iwelumo Burnley
11 McGugan Nott'm Forest
11 Somma Leeds

10 HARTE Reading FC


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Re: Long - time for a change?

by seahawk10 » 16 Mar 2011 20:29

Dear Snowball,

While watching the 2nd half of Boro-Reading via Reading Player I was wondering if you had the data on the following query:

How many Shane Long goals are a direct result from an Ian Harte cross/corner/set piece? I wonder if Long's development as our star goal-scorer coincided with Ian Harte's arrival and his precision passing. So in particular I would love to know Shane Long's goals per game with Ian Harte and without Ian Harte. And if possible, how many of Long's goals are the direct result from a Harte assist.

Cheers!

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Ian Royal » 16 Mar 2011 20:35

seahawk10 Dear Snowball,

While watching the 2nd half of Boro-Reading via Reading Player I was wondering if you had the data on the following query:

How many Shane Long goals are a direct result from an Ian Harte cross/corner/set piece? I wonder if Long's development as our star goal-scorer coincided with Ian Harte's arrival and his precision passing. So in particular I would love to know Shane Long's goals per game with Ian Harte and without Ian Harte. And if possible, how many of Long's goals are the direct result from a Harte assist.

Cheers!


Direct result = 1 and that's because Harte has 1 assist.

Otherwise it depends on whether you consider a cross that was semi cleared as an indirect assist. I've been keeping an eye on it thanks to RP and I've not noted a contribution where the ball takes a significant touch that changes its trajectory from a defender. Can't imagine it's more than half a dozen at most I only have Harte down as being invovled in 4 goals.

Harte's corners and freekicks don't account for many goals at all - other than those he's actually put in from the freekick himself. Howard has provided much more when it comes to set pieces.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by seahawk10 » 16 Mar 2011 20:40

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seahawk10 Dear Snowball,

While watching the 2nd half of Boro-Reading via Reading Player I was wondering if you had the data on the following query:

How many Shane Long goals are a direct result from an Ian Harte cross/corner/set piece? I wonder if Long's development as our star goal-scorer coincided with Ian Harte's arrival and his precision passing. So in particular I would love to know Shane Long's goals per game with Ian Harte and without Ian Harte. And if possible, how many of Long's goals are the direct result from a Harte assist.

Cheers!


Direct result = 1 and that's because Harte has 1 assist.

Otherwise it depends on whether you consider a cross that was semi cleared as an indirect assist. I've been keeping an eye on it thanks to RP and I've not noted a contribution where the ball takes a significant touch that changes its trajectory from a defender.

Harte's corners and freekicks don't account for many goals at all - other than those he's actually put in from the freekick himself. Howard has provided much more when it comes to set pieces.



Thanks Ian, I just got my Reading Player and am going back and watching all of the available games in full. That one assist was the Boro game obviously, just a perfect pass right on Long's head. This is a very fun team to watch.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Ian Royal » 16 Mar 2011 22:41

Sorry didn't quite get that right. Think it's two, with Harte in general having played a role in about 7 goals. So I was a few out.

On another note I make it we've scored from 8 corners and 6 free kicks (not including the actual free kick going in). With 5 of those being taken by Howard.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 20 Mar 2011 17:08

I will openly admit I have slated Long in the past & am delighted to be proved wrong as he is a different class this year.

Do people not agree that this season has seen the best individual performance from a Reading player...specifically a striker for many a year?

Long right now gives Doyle at his peak a run for his money IMO.

I am struggling to rememeber a season where an individual's contribution has been so great.

Well done Shane.

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by Snowball » 21 Mar 2011 01:13

MmmMonsterMunch I will openly admit I have slated Long in the past & am delighted to be proved wrong as he is a different class this year.

Do people not agree that this season has seen the best individual performance from a Reading player...specifically a striker for many a year?

Long right now gives Doyle at his peak a run for his money IMO.

I am struggling to rememeber a season where an individual's contribution has been so great.

Well done Shane.



Nice one, MMM

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Re: Long - time for a change?

by RoyalJames101 » 21 Mar 2011 01:52

Bit random, but i only just realised that Long has started all but the Pompey game this season. Great commitment from him and it's certainly paying off.

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