CONFIMRED - This might be it!!

[Snowflake Royal]

It's nothing to do with face. It's about power, control, gambling and winning.

He has to get a deal on his terms, or he loses. And he won't tolerate that. Everything else is sunk cost, so he'd rather we fold than he 'loses' in a deal.

[East Grinstead Royal]

Well, yes, he does have form.

[stealthpapes]

It's nothing to do with face. It's about power, control, gambling and winning.

He has to get a deal on his terms, or he loses. And he won't tolerate that. Everything else is sunk cost, so he'd rather we fold than he 'loses' in a deal.

Quite.

This is what people mean when they say its about him 'losing face'.

[Snowflake Royal]

It's nothing to do with face. It's about power, control, gambling and winning.

He has to get a deal on his terms, or he loses. And he won't tolerate that. Everything else is sunk cost, so he'd rather we fold than he 'loses' in a deal.

Quite.

This is what people mean when they say its about him 'losing face'.

Maybe, but a lot of people seem to think it means looking bad publicly or getting bad publicity, which he clearly couldn't give two shits about, or he'd have slunk off quietly years ago.

[Hound]

Honestly do we have any real idea what’s going on with him?

Just makes no sense to me, can certainly speculate but none of it makes sense really

[Snowflake Royal]

Well I certainly think i have a potentially good read on him or I wouldn't have said it.

[tmesis]

It's nothing to do with face. It's about power, control, gambling and winning.

He has to get a deal on his terms, or he loses. And he won't tolerate that. Everything else is sunk cost, so he'd rather we fold than he 'loses' in a deal.

Quite.

This is what people mean when they say its about him 'losing face'.

Maybe, but a lot of people seem to think it means looking bad publicly or getting bad publicity, which he clearly couldn't give two shits about, or he'd have slunk off quietly years ago.

His other two clubs folded fairly sharpish, yet this one he's lingering on with.

I can only assume he feels he can get a better offer.

The only other people I can see buying the stadium would be the Thais, to knock it down and expand the hotel, but I can't see that being a financially viable option.

Letting the club fold because he wants £30 million (or whever price isn't being met) would be crazy, but there's not much of his ownership that doesn't seem crazy.

I guess as long as he can keep getting sponsors to pay the bills, or potential owners to pay the bills, or sell players to cover the costs, he'll carry on. Meeting the next four wage bills could be a challenge.

[traff]

I can't say I have a read on this individual, any more than anyone else who has been aware of his behaviour.
However, I have come into contact with a few billionaire through work and one trait seems to run through them all.
If they are not motivated to do something very little will get them to do anything they have lost interest in. Money becomes an irrelevance and the normal rules and morals, most of us follow, just don't apply.

[RoyalBlue]

Daniel Loitz is now saying that holding onto 25% of the club has always been 'Dai's wet dream'. That might explain why all those interested parties are falling by the wayside.

[RG30]

Daniel Loitz is now saying that holding onto 25% of the club has always been 'Dai's wet dream'. That might explain why all those interested parties are falling by the wayside.

As if that chancer has ever said anything remotely true.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

As expected, this month's update from the club will confirm no one in exclusivity but "several interested parties".

Leaked out by Howe....that's from Caroline Parker on SBWD

[Hiram K Hackenbacker]

Well Smiths impending departure pays the wages for the next few months

Wrexham probably won't pay that cash up front. Imagine it'll be in installments with add ons which we'll receive over a 3 year period. The initial fee will probably cover a months pay max

Honestly this is the lowest I've ever felt as a fan of this club. It really does take it's toll on your mental health. Part of me wants protests to escalate to show how angry we are but it probably won't do any good if not make things even worse.

Me too. I'd love to see really angry and potentially disruptive protests but that probably would ensure our relegation. However, if the time should come when that outcome looks very likely anyway.......

I agree

[Sutekh]

As expected, this month's update from the club will confirm no one in exclusivity but "several interested parties".

Leaked out by Howe....that's from Caroline Parker on SBWD

As expected the usual load of nothing. Wish we could somehow trick him to putting the club into admin as it’s the only way to get rid of him until he causes the club to fold.

[RoyalBlue]

As expected, this month's update from the club will confirm no one in exclusivity but "several interested parties".

Leaked out by Howe....that's from Caroline Parker on SBWD

Seemingly leaked out when he rather carelessly, IMO, responded to an email that a supporter sent to him purporting to be an interested party and asking whether the club was still for sale? That's assuming the emails that appeared on Twitter were genuine and not fabricated.

[Lower West]

Honestly do we have any real idea what’s going on with him?

Just makes no sense to me, can certainly speculate but none of it makes sense really

He has been found guilty of committing fraud. Won't be leaving China anytime soon. Outside the affairs of Reading FC. There's most likely a complex investigation underway. To unravel where the money actually went and how much can be recouped for the various creditors.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Honestly do we have any real idea what’s going on with him?

Just makes no sense to me, can certainly speculate but none of it makes sense really

He has been found guilty of committing fraud. Won't be leaving China anytime soon. Outside the affairs of Reading FC. There's most likely a complex investigation underway. To unravel where the money actually went and how much can be recouped for the various creditors.

Someone in the press (Dellor?) said he was in the country last month.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

Honestly do we have any real idea what’s going on with him?

Just makes no sense to me, can certainly speculate but none of it makes sense really

He has been found guilty of committing fraud. Won't be leaving China anytime soon. Outside the affairs of Reading FC. There's most likely a complex investigation underway. To unravel where the money actually went and how much can be recouped for the various creditors.

Someone in the press (Dellor?) said he was in the country last month.

It was Dellor, based on updates he'd had from the club. Can't be 100% sure of anything, but presumably he does have good contacts who would be unlikely to lie. Also said he was actively involved in the sale.

[Stranded]

He has been found guilty of committing fraud. Won't be leaving China anytime soon. Outside the affairs of Reading FC. There's most likely a complex investigation underway. To unravel where the money actually went and how much can be recouped for the various creditors.

Someone in the press (Dellor?) said he was in the country last month.

It was Dellor, based on updates he'd had from the club. Can't be 100% sure of anything, but presumably he does have good contacts who would be unlikely to lie. Also said he was actively involved in blocking any sale.

Amended for you.

[Sutekh]

Someone in the press (Dellor?) said he was in the country last month.

It was Dellor, based on updates he'd had from the club. Can't be 100% sure of anything, but presumably he does have good contacts who would be unlikely to lie. Also said he was actively involved in blocking any sale.

Amended for you.

Tim is the one blocking the sale

[Snowflake Royal]

It was Dellor, based on updates he'd had from the club. Can't be 100% sure of anything, but presumably he does have good contacts who would be unlikely to lie. Also said he was actively involved in blocking any sale.

Amended for you.

Tim is the one blocking the sale

Would you want to be interviewed by that Bellend, I wouldn’t