BFTG Forest

[paddy20]

Think It shows that when we abandon the game plan, i.e last 25 against Wigan and last 10 mins today we actually look dangerous. Why don't the players have the guts to tell Adkins where to put his idealistic ideas of how to play premiership football in the championship and just go out and attack. If we started like that most games we would be 2 up by half time then we can play Adkins boring, passing back game with no problem.

Comments like this are very annoying. When it goes wrong = Adkins, if it goes right = "abandoning Adkins' tactics"

Damned either way isn't he really because some can't face the reality that a lot of our players ain't that good. And some of the good ones are injured.

How do you account for the sudden changes then? Is Adkins changing it. Then if so why doesn't he tell them to play like the last 10 mins all the time?

[SCIAG]

Seriously, has nobody ever seen a Nigel Adkins team play before? The man made Ricky Lambert the Championship top scorer, with most assists being provided by the full backs. That doesn't happen if you just pass it around the back. He made Scunthorpe look credible even though they were built around two players, both strikers. Again, that doesn't happen if you are Brendan Rodgers circa 2009 and won't let your players pass it forwards.

I would attack Adkins' coaching, his ability to get the players doing something that works, rather than his "idealism".

[Sanguine]

Seriously, has nobody ever seen a Nigel Adkins team play before? The man made Ricky Lambert the Championship top scorer, with most assists being provided by the full backs. That doesn't happen if you just pass it around the back. He made Scunthorpe look credible even though they were built around two players, both strikers. Again, that doesn't happen if you are Brendan Rodgers circa 2009 and won't let your players pass it forwards.

I would attack Adkins' coaching, his ability to get the players doing something that works, rather than his "idealism".

Will be interesting then what our targets are in this transfer window. Oh for a Frazer Richardson or Danny Fox. Kelly and Cummings aren't going to find 10 assists each this season, no matter how much you train them.

[3points]

Will be interesting then what our targets are in this transfer window

Wonder what his plans are for Hector?

[Handsome Man]

95 minutes of the most spineless, technically inept and tactically naïve rubbish I have ever seen, followed by a wonderful surprise. I was quite exhilarated when I left the ground, despite seeing the worst performance in English football history by a creative midfielder.

I quite like all the players and am happy with Adkins as a manager with an eye on the long term, but it just isn't working. Drop Guthrie, sell or give away Pogrebnyak, move on LeFondre to one of our rivals and sack Drenthe, then play some youngsters and we will see some improvement.

[P!ssed Off]

Think It shows that when we abandon the game plan, i.e last 25 against Wigan and last 10 mins today we actually look dangerous. Why don't the players have the guts to tell Adkins where to put his idealistic ideas of how to play premiership football in the championship and just go out and attack. If we started like that most games we would be 2 up by half time then we can play Adkins boring, passing back game with no problem.

Comments like this are very annoying. When it goes wrong = Adkins, if it goes right = "abandoning Adkins' tactics"

Damned either way isn't he really because some can't face the reality that a lot of our players ain't that good. And some of the good ones are injured.

Having played 75 minutes of Adkins tactics and failed miserably of course he's in a lose-lose situation.
He can either:
a) Persist with his nonsense, lose without a shot on target, and get booed off by the crowd.
Or
b) Abandon tippy-tappy and throw the kitchen sink at it. If we get a result then he won't get booed off, but it will only make it plainly obvious how bad his tactics were in the first 75 minutes, and how we are able to play so much better.

Poor old Adkins eh? Well no, not really. A way to get out of such a conundrum is to not play like dogshit for the first 75 minutes of games.
If he wants people to respect his tactics then he might want to make them more effective than 0 shots on target in 75 minutes.

[bobby1413]

Drop Guthrie, sell or give away Pogrebnyak, move on LeFondre to one of our rivals and sack Drenthe, then play some youngsters and we will see some improvement.

Definitely agree - drop Guthrie. I think his performance today was terrible, and by removing him, it may open up the midfield to some more creativity and more dominant play.

Pog - I like him and think he has a lot to offer at the minute. I don't think it's the right time to get rid of him, as I don't think we'd get any reasonable replacement.

ALF - agree. It's clear he wants to go after his comments to BBCRB today.

Drenthe - undecided. He is exciting and I think he *could* offer a lot if given games and time.

Youngsters - Agree overall, I've always been a big advocate of bringing the youngsters through. I hope at the Brighton game there are a few of them either starting or at least coming on as a sub.

[marlowuk]

How do you account for the sudden changes then? Is Adkins changing it. Then if so why doesn't he tell them to play like the last 10 mins all the time?

As I have already said - Forest decided to protect their 1-0 lead with 10 minutes remaining and they concentrated on defence hence giving us the momentum and more time on the ball. By then we should have been 3-0 or 4-0 down had their forwards taken some really simple clear-cut chances. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half they played us off the park and we had hardly any possession at all. We were chasing shadows. And in the first half I don't think we had more than one shot and that wasn't on target.

I'm glad we got the draw as it may give us more confidence now. A third home defeat in a row would have been devastating! I know we have injury problems. I know we are missing Bridge, Karacan and Roberts; I think we are missing Morrison and Legs. But we should be doing better with the squad we have.

[PremAddict]

I'm just glad pot is legal in Colorado; it will help enhance the games!

[USA_Loyal_Royal]

I'm just glad pot is legal in Colorado; it will help enhance the games!

speaking of, my friends mate just drove from Colorado to deliver some awesome shit that he got at a dispensary. medical weed>every other weed

[bobby1413]

I'm just glad pot is legal in Colorado; it will help enhance the games!

speaking of, my friends mate just drove from Colorado to deliver some awesome shit that he got at a dispensary. medical weed>every other weed

What is it about every american smoking cannabis (aka "pot").

Loads of sitcoms based in america make reference to it, including characters playing the role of fully grown adults. In the UK it doesn't seem anywhere near as common or glamorised.

[Libertine]

I'm just glad pot is legal in Colorado; it will help enhance the games!

speaking of, my friends mate just drove from Colorado to deliver some awesome shit that he got at a dispensary. medical weed>every other weed

What is it about every american smoking cannabis (aka "pot").

Loads of sitcoms based in america make reference to it, including characters playing the role of fully grown adults. In the UK it doesn't seem anywhere near as common or glamorised.

Because we like it and it is basically harmless? And us 70's stoners made sure each of the following group of young adults had the opportunity to see how much they liked it too.

We smoke a lot of it, we also do a lot of coke (though I never understood why, the stuff never did it for me), and (often binge) drink, and swallow pills, and ect...we just like partying and getting wasted. Work hard, play hard...and often eventually end up in rehab if you take a liking to the "wrong" drug. But everyone here has "their drug" of choice.

[P!ssed Off]

I'm just glad pot is legal in Colorado; it will help enhance the games!

speaking of, my friends mate just drove from Colorado to deliver some awesome shit that he got at a dispensary. medical weed>every other weed

What is it about every american smoking cannabis (aka "pot").

Loads of sitcoms based in america make reference to it, including characters playing the role of fully grown adults. In the UK it doesn't seem anywhere near as common or glamorised.

Showing your age there chap.

[bobby1413]

Haha! I'm very streetwise, and know how popular it is amongst certain people. But it seems that so many american sitcoms, actors, movies, etc... make reference to it. Like you get big movie stars on talk shows talking about it.

In the UK, it just seems far less publicised, even if it maybe is as popular?

Dunno if that makes sense - it's 4:30am and I'm falling asleep

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Wake up Bobby.

[bobby1413]

Wake up Bobby.

I'm awake, I'm awakkskzzzzzzz

[Maguire]

tbh I thought Reading acquitted themselves the better of the two teams up until Halford's goal, without managing to create any real chances.

Second half it opened up for Forest as we chased the game and they could have added to their lead, but Reading came strong the last ten or so mins. Can't comment on the goal as I was on the bus back to town by the time that went in.

Blackman looked very sharp and Pogrebnyak continues to work hard and look like he belongs in a better side. Overall this does not look like a team though. Havent' seen Reading play cohesively all season long and I'm pretty sure we'll still be in this division next season.

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Same sh*t just played on a different day of the week.

Credit to the fans who stuck with the team throughout the game.

[Delboy]

Just watched MOTD teams that pass the ball do it quickly. We do it slowly and everything goes through clueless Guthrie, we need to change midfield as a priority.

[Schards#2]

Until NA is backed by the board in what he wants to do here there is little point in having a go at him. We need to wait until the mess that is masquerading as ownership gets sorted and hopefully then we'll see things start to develop as he is expecting.

disagree - this is all about Adkins. He sets the team up and tells them what to do. They looked like they didn't have a clue this afternoon.

Adkins isn't responsible for Pearce passing the ball straight into touch from ten yards away, or for Guthrie's inept free kicks, or for McCarthy kicking the ball straight out, or for Le Fondre not touching the ball after coming on.

He has to take some responsibility but, even with all the injuries, the eleven we are putting on the pitch should be capable of producing far better than the utter dross they have served up this season. On paper, our front six is a match for any in the division yet game after game they appear incapable of creating anything whatsoever. These players need to take a long look at themselves and accept they are underpermoning. Including Le Fondre who, for all his wingeing, has been pretty ineffective whenever he has been played, leading scorer or not. The odd tap in doesn't justify him contributing nothing for the rest of the game.

The players are good enough, the manager has an excellent track record so, we can presume, does know what he's doing, so what is wrong? The last time I recall us underperforming as badly as this was under Burns when, as now, we had an owner who wasn't in the country. I won't profess to know why the ownership issue has an impact on the pitch, but I'm pretty convinced it does (maybe a complacency through the club that the man paying the bills isn't watching) and no change of manager or tinkering with the personnel on the pitch in Januray is going to change that.