BFTG - Brighton

[Sutekh]

IMO, 1-1 at Rotherham is not bad

Really?

Derby 3-0 Rotherham
Rotherham 1-2 Sheff Wed
Rotherham 1-1 Reading
Brentford 2-1 Rotherham
Rotherham 1-2 Burnley

Not forgetting:

24 Rotherham 14 -12 9

Certainly feels like a poor result for a team which wants to finish above Derby, Sheff Weds and Burnley.

We did take the lead though...

[Westwood52]

Started poorly but after 10 minutes came into the game & pretty much in charge apart from 10 minutes after they scored.

Despite the number of "clever" players we have; we struggle to take advantage when we are well on top & not sure what the overall strategy against packed defences is supposed to be ?

Al Habsi : Unclassified hardly troubled no chance on the goal.

Gunter : 7 misplaced pass , pulled out of challenges a few times but provided a constant progressive outlet on the right
Taylor : 6 First time I have seen him play-not as good as Obita going forward-but hardly troubled defensively.
Hector : 6 From superb to bizarre almost in a heartbeat needs to improve his concentration levels
Mc Shane : 7 A couple of good defensive blocks.
Norwood : 8 MOM one poor pass in 90 minutes.
Williams : 6 Runs around a lot to little effect woeful shooting.
G Mac : 6 Got better as the game went on.
Vidra : 6 Sharp for the goal-but should have done better with the one on one.
Sa : 5 Very poor first touch lets him down.
Blackman: 8 Great again a real threat on the ball.

Piazon : Looked threatening.
Hurtado: Did'nt do much-doesn't seem to be a game changer.

Brighton: Well organized ; good defensively-but next to nothing up front.

Ref: Seen worse ; but pretty poor. Was it a handball by Brighton ? Looked that way to me. Should have booked a Brighton player for stopping the throw on, but instead disappeared up his own backside.

[3points]

Chris Gunter is really annoying me this season. I understand he may have been told to be a bit less attacking (positionally) but why does he pass the ball backwards or sideways every time he gets it? yesterday he never took on a player - it's so easy to defend against. Bruno was a much better example of what he should be doing - solid defensively and always a threat going forward. Problem is we have no real alternative with Hector the most likely to get the nod if Gunter gets suspended. Plus he was nowhere near Crofts for the goal.

[Maguire]

Would have been very disappointed to lose that game. Brighton had two good five minute spells but otherwise were firmly on the back foot.

Blackman was a class apart from every other player on the pitch. So good at receiving the ball under pressure and turning away from people. did it time and time again and it was no surprise he was involved the equaliser.

Brighton defended well (Lewis Dunk looked solid player) and are probably top six material but I can't see them winning it. Middlesbrough are definitely stronger even though we beat them.

Overall, decent game and a better point for Brighton than for us.

[Snowball136]

IMO, 1-1 at Rotherham is not bad

Really?

Derby 3-0 Rotherham
Rotherham 1-2 Sheff Wed
Rotherham 1-1 Reading
Brentford 2-1 Rotherham
Rotherham 1-2 Burnley

Not forgetting:

24 Rotherham 14 -12 9

Certainly feels like a poor result for a team which wants to finish above Derby, Sheff Weds and Burnley.

Plat' you know better than to compare individual results as if in a single form they indicate much.

Wednesday won at Rotherham, "so they are better than us"? But we drew at their place and we're above them.

Burnley won at Rotherham (but we won at Burnley)

The Brentford game was AT HOME (no comparison), and anyway we beat them at their place


Single games rarely mean much, and Rotherham may be dodgy, but they weren't too bad in the six games leading up to our game there.


1-1 A Charlton
1-2 H Brighton TOP
2-1 H Cardiff
2-0 A Birmingham TOP SIX
1-2 H Burnley TOP SIX
1-2 A Brentford

W2 D1 L3 8-8 7 points from 6 games, the three defeats each by a single goal

[Snowball136]

Brighton defended well (Lewis Dunk looked solid player) and are probably top six material but I can't see them winning it. Middlesbrough are definitely stronger even though we beat them.

Agreed, Boro better, Derby better, and probably Hull, maybe Burnley (oh, and us)

[Ian Royal]

I thought boro could have played for a week without scoring whilst Brighton looked plenty threatening albeit with relatively few chances and content to try to hold on once they scored.

Obviously it's a different game scoring in the first minute.

I thought they looked much better than Derby as well who only won because Sa got himself sent off.

I think they'll be top 3.

[urzmikep]

Not sure if anyone has posted this already, but Brighton have only played 1 out of the top 6 side in the division so far this season, whereas we've played 5 out of the top 6. So I think that Brighton's position is misleading and they won't be their much longer.

Personally I wasn't that impressed with Brighton yesterday, they looked solid but their defence panicked on several occasions with several mis-kicks. On another day I think we could have easily have beaten them though we seemed to always be looking to play an extra touch too many times in front of goal.

[Snowball136]

I thought boro could have played for a week without scoring whilst Brighton looked plenty threatening albeit with relatively few chances and content to try to hold on once they scored.

13 Shots 2 O/T RFC-Boro 6 Shots 1 O/T
21 Shots 5 O/T RFC-Brig 10 Shots 2 O/T

Clearly the game v Boro was generally tighter and we won because our on target shots went in. Brighton conceded almost twice as many shots, 2.5 times as many on target, and only had two shots on target compared to Boro's 1


Very happy to have a bet that Boro will finish above Brighton

[Pepe the Horseman]

Wednesday will beat them on Tuesday.

[Snowball136]

Wednesday will beat them on Tuesday.

Game is postponed

Tuesday, Wednesday are playing Abergavenny Thursdays.

(If a draw replay Friday)

[Jagermesiter1871]

Not sure if anyone has posted this already, but Brighton have only played 1 out of the top 6 side in the division so far this season, whereas we've played 5 out of the top 6. So I think that Brighton's position is misleading and they won't be their much longer.

Personally I wasn't that impressed with Brighton yesterday, they looked solid but their defence panicked on several occasions with several mis-kicks. On another day I think we could have easily have beaten them though we seemed to always be looking to play an extra touch too many times in front of goal.

Yeah it's been mentioned several hundred times.

[wingnut]

Not sure if anyone has posted this already, but Brighton have only played 1 out of the top 6 side in the division so far this season, whereas we've played 5 out of the top 6. So I think that Brighton's position is misleading and they won't be their much longer.

Folk keep saying that here, but it's probably more in hope than expectation. No team gets this far into the season unbeaten without being half decent. They will be there or thereabouts come the end.

[Lower West]

Not sure if anyone has posted this already, but Brighton have only played 1 out of the top 6 side in the division so far this season, whereas we've played 5 out of the top 6. So I think that Brighton's position is misleading and they won't be their much longer.

Folk keep saying that here, but it's probably more in hope than expectation. No team gets this far into the season unbeaten without being half decent. They will be there or thereabouts come the end.

Nothing yesterday to suggest that Brighton are an exceptional team. For the first time in many years. Championship looks like going to the wire. With not much between the teams on the day.

[Ian Royal]

I thought boro could have played for a week without scoring whilst Brighton looked plenty threatening albeit with relatively few chances and content to try to hold on once they scored.

13 Shots 2 O/T RFC-Boro 6 Shots 1 O/T
21 Shots 5 O/T RFC-Brig 10 Shots 2 O/T

Clearly the game v Boro was generally tighter and we won because our on target shots went in. Brighton conceded almost twice as many shots, 2.5 times as many on target, and only had two shots on target compared to Boro's 1


Very happy to have a bet that Boro will finish above Brighton

This is why simple numbers are often misleading.

We have higher numbers of shots against Brighton because we spent most of the game needing to press for a goal to take the lead or equalise. Against Middlesbrough we scored in the first minute and then proceeded to sit back, invite them on and hit them on the break. While Brighton did almost the same to us from about 5 - 10 minutes after they scored.

Yet Brighton still threatened our goal much more than Middlesbrough, who had way more possession. And threatening the goal is much more than just having a shot, or it being on target.

[Ian Royal]

Perhaps if Brighton had played more of the top six, those teams wouldn't be in the top six, having dropped points against Brighton.

[Snowball]

Perhaps if Brighton had played more of the top six, those teams wouldn't be in the top six, having dropped points against Brighton.

They scraped a 1-0 versus Hull (at Brighton) and managed a draw away at 7th-place Reading,
so exactly why should we think they wild well against other top six sides?

[Ian Royal]

Perhaps if Brighton had played more of the top six, those teams wouldn't be in the top six, having dropped points against Brighton.

They scraped a 1-0 versus Hull (at Brighton) and managed a draw away at 7th-place Reading,
so exactly why should we think they wild well against other top six sides?

Why should we think they would lose?

They're top for a reason and we shouldn't dismiss them lightly.

[genome]

Not sure we should reading too much into "top six" when the it's only November and the league is this tight.

[Ian Royal]

Not sure we should reading too much into "top six" when the it's only November and the league is this tight.

Indeed. Had Brighton lost instead of drawn with Cardiff, they'd be top six. If they'd lost instead of won, Fulham (who beat our apparently superior side) would be one point off it (and above us).

The fact is, if you're top after 14 games, your position is justified and it's foolish to spend week after week saying the bubble is bound to burst.