by maffff » 26 Jul 2018 23:56
by maffff » 27 Jul 2018 00:01
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Pickford broke into the team because he was that good though. Of course Southwood could be a real talent too, but realistically he's unlikely to be good enough for the Championship.
Could a manager really go into a season with Shortwood or Ward just one injury away from being number one for months? I'd say no myself.
So an OK keeper in League Two who is 6 years older deserves that responsibility over two younger players who were exceptional one league down?
Don't think it's about "deserved". Assuming Walker is backup, then he's going to be hanging about on the bench, not getting many matches. i.e., he's not going to get much opportunity to develop, beyond what the coaching staff can do with him. But he's mid 20's now, so that's not a massive problem, because where's he's at now is probably pretty much as good as it's going to get for him.
The other guys though, they need regular games so that they can get better, because they are still young.
Assuming Southwood and Ward have decent loans, they will end the season better than they are now. Doubt that would be the case for either of them, if they were kept at the club as backup.
by Stranded » 27 Jul 2018 07:56
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So an OK keeper in League Two who is 6 years older deserves that responsibility over two younger players who were exceptional one league down?
Don't think it's about "deserved". Assuming Walker is backup, then he's going to be hanging about on the bench, not getting many matches. i.e., he's not going to get much opportunity to develop, beyond what the coaching staff can do with him. But he's mid 20's now, so that's not a massive problem, because where's he's at now is probably pretty much as good as it's going to get for him.
The other guys though, they need regular games so that they can get better, because they are still young.
Assuming Southwood and Ward have decent loans, they will end the season better than they are now. Doubt that would be the case for either of them, if they were kept at the club as backup.
Fine in principle, but where's the pathway a year or two from the loans. 2 years left on contract, they won't hang around again if there's no chance they'll get their shot here.
by Hoop Blah » 27 Jul 2018 10:33
maffffmaffffHoop Blah Could a manager really go into a season with Shortwood or Ward just one injury away from being number one for months? I'd say no myself.
So an OK keeper in League Two who is 6 years older deserves that responsibility over two younger players who were exceptional one league down?
Walker is as much risk as Jaakkola was (and he's out of his depth at this level) and as much risk as both Ward and Southwood.
by Hound » 27 Jul 2018 12:11
by Sutekh » 27 Jul 2018 13:30
by maffff » 27 Jul 2018 14:02
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Don't think it's about "deserved". Assuming Walker is backup, then he's going to be hanging about on the bench, not getting many matches. i.e., he's not going to get much opportunity to develop, beyond what the coaching staff can do with him. But he's mid 20's now, so that's not a massive problem, because where's he's at now is probably pretty much as good as it's going to get for him.
The other guys though, they need regular games so that they can get better, because they are still young.
Assuming Southwood and Ward have decent loans, they will end the season better than they are now. Doubt that would be the case for either of them, if they were kept at the club as backup.
Fine in principle, but where's the pathway a year or two from the loans. 2 years left on contract, they won't hang around again if there's no chance they'll get their shot here.
With Mannone out of contract next season, there wil be an opportunity to make a case to be in or closer too the first team this season. I would be very surprised if this is not part of the plan for the younger lads. Given how many young keepers we have, at least one of Ward, Southwood and Legg will be gone in a year or two. Possibly 2, would hope that the 3rd is either in or close too the first team.
by Sutekh » 28 Jul 2018 04:32
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