PieEater You have to wonder what preseason games are all about if we're not going to play our first team. They need to get match fitness, work out how to play together, and try out the new manager tactics.
People say the results don't matter and it's all about fitness. Well it seems it's not even about that if they don't play.
blythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
under the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
Sutekhunder the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
Forest too, still trading on 3/4 seasons at the arse end of the 1970s and the start of 1980s!
under the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
Clyde1998under the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
There are, obviously, different ways of determining what's a big club. In terms of number of supporters, there was a survey done by YouGov last month about whether football fans would support the England women's team; the survey was across Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales).
On the question: "Thinking about the football team you support MOST, is it a team that will be in the English Premier League for the 2023-24 season? If so, which team is it? If you do not support a team, or it is not a team in the Premier League, please choose the N/A option. [Asked to those who are interested in football]"
33% N/A; 14% Man Utd; 12% Liverpool; 6% Arsenal & Man City; 5% Chelsea & Tottenham; 4% Newcastle; 3% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa & Everton. [All other Premier League clubs had 0-1% - which is too small to be statistically relevant; Wolves had 2% in England though. Celtic and Rangers would be over 2% had they been options, due to their high levels of support in Scotland.]
The Government's White Paper on football reform included a survey which asked about club supported (England-only): link. Of those who stated a club they support: 11% supported Liverpool; 10% Man Utd; 8% Arsenal; 7% Chelsea; 5% Tottenham; 4% Man City; 4% Leeds; 4% Newcastle; 2% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa; 2% Sunderland; 2% Leicester; 2% West Brom (all others were between 0-1%, which again isn't statistically relevant).
Basically, most clubs aren't very big in the grand scheme of things: a club like West Ham is closer to us in levels of raw support than Man Utd or Liverpool, despite being in the top ten of supported clubs in England. Aside from a handful of clubs, most will draw support from their local area (with the number of supporters largely determined by the size of the area in question); of those who do draw supporters from outside their local area, there's a decent chance there's migratory reasons for it (or those people are just glory hunters).
In terms of Southampton, they're going to have more supporters than us simply because they've been a top flight club for most of the time since the late-60s compared to us being a third tier side for a majority of that time. Southampton may be bigger than most clubs, but they're far from a 'big club' based on how I view the term 'big club'.
Clyde1998under the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
There are, obviously, different ways of determining what's a big club. In terms of number of supporters, there was a survey done by YouGov last month about whether football fans would support the England women's team; the survey was across Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales).
On the question: "Thinking about the football team you support MOST, is it a team that will be in the English Premier League for the 2023-24 season? If so, which team is it? If you do not support a team, or it is not a team in the Premier League, please choose the N/A option. [Asked to those who are interested in football]"
33% N/A; 14% Man Utd; 12% Liverpool; 6% Arsenal & Man City; 5% Chelsea & Tottenham; 4% Newcastle; 3% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa & Everton. [All other Premier League clubs had 0-1% - which is too small to be statistically relevant; Wolves had 2% in England though. Celtic and Rangers would be over 2% had they been options, due to their high levels of support in Scotland.]
The Government's White Paper on football reform included a survey which asked about club supported (England-only): link. Of those who stated a club they support: 11% supported Liverpool; 10% Man Utd; 8% Arsenal; 7% Chelsea; 5% Tottenham; 4% Man City; 4% Leeds; 4% Newcastle; 2% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa; 2% Sunderland; 2% Leicester; 2% West Brom (all others were between 0-1%, which again isn't statistically relevant).
Basically, most clubs aren't very big in the grand scheme of things: a club like West Ham is closer to us in levels of raw support than Man Utd or Liverpool, despite being in the top ten of supported clubs in England. Aside from a handful of clubs, most will draw support from their local area (with the number of supporters largely determined by the size of the area in question); of those who do draw supporters from outside their local area, there's a decent chance there's migratory reasons for it (or those people are just glory hunters).
In terms of Southampton, they're going to have more supporters than us simply because they've been a top flight club for most of the time since the late-60s compared to us being a third tier side for a majority of that time. Southampton may be bigger than most clubs, but they're far from a 'big club' based on how I view the term 'big club'.
Clyde1998under the tinblythspartan I really have to laugh about how some of the Saints fans are eulogising over Russell Martin and about how well they played against us. Tbf out of all of the South coast clubs I like the Saints fans the best, and they were far superior than us yesterday. However, we’re at the infancy stage of a rebuild so if I were them I wouldn’t be getting too excited yet. Also, they’ll be losing crucial players before September.
Have to respectfully disagree.
Largely delusional fans who think they support a "big" club,
Not quite as delusional as BHA fans, mind, who think they're Sussex's answer to Real Madrid.
The truly "big" clubs actually WIN stuff. OK, Bobby stokes etc in 1970 something, but otherwise......... *tumbleweed* F.A.
They're also not quite as delusional as bloody Leeds fans, who have legions of them (God only knows why, telly was in black and white when they were last any good, and most of them weren't born then).
Rant over
There are, obviously, different ways of determining what's a big club. In terms of number of supporters, there was a survey done by YouGov last month about whether football fans would support the England women's team; the survey was across Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales).
On the question: "Thinking about the football team you support MOST, is it a team that will be in the English Premier League for the 2023-24 season? If so, which team is it? If you do not support a team, or it is not a team in the Premier League, please choose the N/A option. [Asked to those who are interested in football]"
33% N/A; 14% Man Utd; 12% Liverpool; 6% Arsenal & Man City; 5% Chelsea & Tottenham; 4% Newcastle; 3% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa & Everton. [All other Premier League clubs had 0-1% - which is too small to be statistically relevant; Wolves had 2% in England though. Celtic and Rangers would be over 2% had they been options, due to their high levels of support in Scotland.]
The Government's White Paper on football reform included a survey which asked about club supported (England-only): link. Of those who stated a club they support: 11% supported Liverpool; 10% Man Utd; 8% Arsenal; 7% Chelsea; 5% Tottenham; 4% Man City; 4% Leeds; 4% Newcastle; 2% West Ham; 2% Aston Villa; 2% Sunderland; 2% Leicester; 2% West Brom (all others were between 0-1%, which again isn't statistically relevant).
Basically, most clubs aren't very big in the grand scheme of things: a club like West Ham is closer to us in levels of raw support than Man Utd or Liverpool, despite being in the top ten of supported clubs in England. Aside from a handful of clubs, most will draw support from their local area (with the number of supporters largely determined by the size of the area in question); of those who do draw supporters from outside their local area, there's a decent chance there's migratory reasons for it (or those people are just glory hunters).
In terms of Southampton, they're going to have more supporters than us simply because they've been a top flight club for most of the time since the late-60s compared to us being a third tier side for a majority of that time. Southampton may be bigger than most clubs, but they're far from a 'big club' based on how I view the term 'big club'.
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