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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Alan Partridge » 07 Aug 2008 23:27

LOLZ to be fair. '3 substantial signings' hmmmm

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Lower West » 07 Aug 2008 23:39

Can't wait for the season to start......... all this whinging is getting motanous!

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Pseud O'Nym » 07 Aug 2008 23:51

Uke The easiest way for Kits, Shorey, et al to get a big signing on fee cheque in their pocket was to be relegated and then to leave


That's a bit cynical, innit? I don't think Shorey has the intelligence to be that scheming, it was just that his England Caps went straight to his head*. As for Kitson, I believe that he did keep on trying .

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Uke » 08 Aug 2008 08:28

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Uke The easiest way for Kits, Shorey, et al to get a big signing on fee cheque in their pocket was to be relegated and then to leave


That's a bit cynical, innit? I don't think Shorey has the intelligence to be that scheming, it was just that his England Caps went straight to his head*. As for Kitson, I believe that he did keep on trying .


They were probably advised of the importance of quick cash by their Agents

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Huntley & Palmer » 08 Aug 2008 10:05

Alan Partridge LOLZ to be fair. '3 substantial signings' hmmmm

He forgot to add in, "3 substantial signings, only if our players leave first"


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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Royalee » 08 Aug 2008 10:09

Platypuss In case you've forgotten:

Steve Coppell "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent 40million, 50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."


When did he come out with this? If he actually said this then it's the first intelligent thing I've seen him come out with in two and a half years, shame he didn't have the balls to follow it through.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Alan Partridge » 08 Aug 2008 10:11

Royalee
Platypuss In case you've forgotten:

Steve Coppell "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent 40million, 50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."


When did he come out with this? If he actually said this then it's the first intelligent thing I've seen him come out with in two and a half years, shame he didn't have the balls to follow it through.


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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Royalee » 08 Aug 2008 10:13

LOL, Coppell in contradiction and backtracking shocker. :o

Ah well, with every day that passes we get closer to the day the spineless twat leaves I guess.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Vision » 08 Aug 2008 10:35

Except its not a statement of intent but a statement of fact isn't it.

All the quote does is highlight about what it would take to compete and move forward in the Premier League and basically we had neither the money nor the will to do it.


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by Royalee » 08 Aug 2008 10:40

Vision Except its not a statement of intent but a statement of fact isn't it.

All the quote does is highlight about what it would take to compete and move forward in the Premier League and basically we had neither the money nor the will to do it.


Usually if you're a decent manager, you act according to facts and base your intent on these.

Been asking Coppell why he has come out in the press thanking Madejski for his sound financial backing when in your wise old opinion he's not had a bean have you? Where do you get your information from, you must be a club insider for you to know we couldn't have afforded to buy anyone.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Vision » 08 Aug 2008 10:56

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Vision Except its not a statement of intent but a statement of fact isn't it.

All the quote does is highlight about what it would take to compete and move forward in the Premier League and basically we had neither the money nor the will to do it.


Usually if you're a decent manager, you act according to facts and base your intent on these.

Been asking Coppell why he has come out in the press thanking Madejski for his sound financial backing when in your wise old opinion he's not had a bean have you? Where do you get your information from, you must be a club insider for you to know we couldn't have afforded to buy anyone.


Its really not worth bothering with you.

Show me any post where i've said " we couldn't have afforded (sic) to buy anyone"

Show me any post where i've said Coppell hasn't "had a bean".

Its my opinion that to take the strides talked about in that quote we have neither the finances nor the will to make it happen. It requires a gamble and a leap of faith that neither the current chairman nor current manager are prepared to make.

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by Royal Lady » 08 Aug 2008 10:58

Royalee is of the opinion that his opinions are always right and everyone else is wrong. There's no "debating" sensibly with him. I've given up on the other thread. :roll:

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by SpaceCruiser » 08 Aug 2008 11:01

Royal Lady Royalee is of the opinion that his opinions are always right and everyone else is wrong. There's no "debating" sensibly with him. I've given up on the other thread. :roll:


I urge you and everybody else to put Royalee on ignore.


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by Uke » 08 Aug 2008 11:05

Royal Lady Royalee is of the opinion that his opinions are always right and everyone else is wrong. There's no "debating" sensibly with him. I've given up on the other thread. :roll:


Royalee is probably too young to know what a scratched record sounds like or how quickly it gets annoying

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Royalee » 08 Aug 2008 11:23

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Vision Except its not a statement of intent but a statement of fact isn't it.

All the quote does is highlight about what it would take to compete and move forward in the Premier League and basically we had neither the money nor the will to do it.


Usually if you're a decent manager, you act according to facts and base your intent on these.

Been asking Coppell why he has come out in the press thanking Madejski for his sound financial backing when in your wise old opinion he's not had a bean have you? Where do you get your information from, you must be a club insider for you to know we couldn't have afforded to buy anyone.


Its really not worth bothering with you.

Show me any post where i've said " we couldn't have afforded (sic) to buy anyone"

Show me any post where i've said Coppell hasn't "had a bean".

Its my opinion that to take the strides talked about in that quote we have neither the finances nor the will to make it happen. It requires a gamble and a leap of faith that neither the current chairman nor current manager are prepared to make.



Were we somehow exempt from receiving Premiership TV money then? I guess Bristol City must have rubbed a magic lamp to get the money for Maynard.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Royal Lady » 08 Aug 2008 11:24

Bristol City won't have received the PL money yet. You get it at the end of the season. HTH.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Vision » 08 Aug 2008 11:41

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Usually if you're a decent manager, you act according to facts and base your intent on these.

Been asking Coppell why he has come out in the press thanking Madejski for his sound financial backing when in your wise old opinion he's not had a bean have you? Where do you get your information from, you must be a club insider for you to know we couldn't have afforded to buy anyone.


Its really not worth bothering with you.

Show me any post where i've said " we couldn't have afforded (sic) to buy anyone"

Show me any post where i've said Coppell hasn't "had a bean".

Its my opinion that to take the strides talked about in that quote we have neither the finances nor the will to make it happen. It requires a gamble and a leap of faith that neither the current chairman nor current manager are prepared to make.



Were we somehow exempt from receiving Premiership TV money then? I guess Bristol City must have rubbed a magic lamp to get the money for Maynard.


Were'nt we quoted as making a 6m profit in our first Premiership season?
Now lets say that all that was invested in players does that come anywhere near to the sort of investment it would take for the scenario described in Coppell's quote to move forward and progress at Premier league level.

The chairman wants us to run at a profit, nothing wrong with that , but the days of him keeping us afloat are over and he's actively looking to sell up. It could be argued he would be in a better position to attract buyers if we were in the Premier League with an expanded stadium but once again that would require precisely the sort of consistent substantial investment both on the playing side and in the expanding of the stadium that Coppell is talking about. Its the sort of huge investment and gamble which the Chairman is not prepared to do all over again.

I'm not sure what Nicky Maynard has to do with the discussion about finances in the premier league?
But if you want to talk about something completely different.

Bristol City have sold arguably their best player from last season (Nick Carle) and needed to replace him.
We already have 4 forwards at least 2 of whom are established at this level, something which Nicky Maynard isn't as yet. I think he will be a good player at championship level but he's certainly not ahead of Doyle and Lita at this stage and for the price I'm not sure we'd ever have considered him.

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Re: Has anyone else noticed...

by Wycombe Royal » 08 Aug 2008 11:44

Vision Bristol City have sold arguably their best player from last season (Nick Carle) and needed to replace him.
We already have 4 forwards at least 2 of whom are established at this level, something which Nicky Maynard isn't as yet. I think he will be a good player at championship level but he's certainly not ahead of Doyle and Lita at this stage and for the price I'm not sure we'd ever have considered him.

Nick Carle was only at Bristol CIty for the last half of last season and he was a midfielder, so Maynard did not replace him.

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by Vision » 08 Aug 2008 11:48

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Vision Bristol City have sold arguably their best player from last season (Nick Carle) and needed to replace him.
We already have 4 forwards at least 2 of whom are established at this level, something which Nicky Maynard isn't as yet. I think he will be a good player at championship level but he's certainly not ahead of Doyle and Lita at this stage and for the price I'm not sure we'd ever have considered him.

Nick Carle was only at Bristol CIty for the last half of last season and he was a midfielder, so Maynard did not replace him.


I'm talking more in terms of creativity rather than a straight positional swap in much the same way that i see Marek as a replacement for Little despite his preferred position. BTW i certainly saw him at least once play just off a main striker last season.

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by Wycombe Royal » 08 Aug 2008 11:52

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Vision Bristol City have sold arguably their best player from last season (Nick Carle) and needed to replace him.
We already have 4 forwards at least 2 of whom are established at this level, something which Nicky Maynard isn't as yet. I think he will be a good player at championship level but he's certainly not ahead of Doyle and Lita at this stage and for the price I'm not sure we'd ever have considered him.

Nick Carle was only at Bristol CIty for the last half of last season and he was a midfielder, so Maynard did not replace him.


I'm talking more in terms of creativity rather than a straight positional swap in much the same way that i see Marek as a replacement for Little despite his preferred position. BTW i certainly saw him at least once play just off a main striker last season.


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