Selles not out

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Should Selles be shown the door now before the inevitable mid season sacking

Yes (and appoint Ian)
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46%
No (it's a wonderful appointment and he'll get the club to scale heights never before seen at Reading)
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44%
He won't be appointed in the first place
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10%
 
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Re: Selles out

by Sutekh » 11 Dec 2023 09:05

Stranded Well I woke up to a very random dream this morning. Random as I usually neither remember my dreams or dream about football but if this dream were to come true - we will hear something positive about the takeover this week following a 2-1 win over Oxford. The new owners will then go on to give the job to Steve Bruce.


It has come to this that Steve Bruce would be a step forward for the club.

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Dec 2023 09:09

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Yeah guess that’s part of the issue


Parky would jump at the opportunity, he would even take a pay cut!


:lol: :lol:

Seriously, which drug is carboot on?

He's playing for attention.

To be fair, if the right ownership came in I could see him returning "one day" after his time at Wrexham has come to a natural end - help rebuild a club close to his heart. But the hierarchy would be key.

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Re: Selles out

by genome » 11 Dec 2023 10:28

stop quoting the guy

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Re: Selles out

by NathStPaul » 11 Dec 2023 10:39

"He's playing for attention"

So they quote him relentlessly..... So much :|

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Dec 2023 12:01

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Parky would jump at the opportunity, he would even take a pay cut!


:lol: :lol:

Seriously, which drug is carboot on?

He's playing for attention.

To be fair, if the right ownership came in I could see him returning "one day" after his time at Wrexham has come to a natural end - help rebuild a club close to his heart. But the hierarchy would be key.

I can't. Either we have the right set up and we're too big a job for him, or we have the wrong set up and he should avoid us like the plague.


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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Dec 2023 12:04

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:lol: :lol:

Seriously, which drug is carboot on?

He's playing for attention.

To be fair, if the right ownership came in I could see him returning "one day" after his time at Wrexham has come to a natural end - help rebuild a club close to his heart. But the hierarchy would be key.

I can't. Either we have the right set up and we're too big a job for him, or we have the wrong set up and he should avoid us like the plague.

If we get the right set up, we don't become a big job overnight. There would be a L2/L1 rebuild job.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Dec 2023 12:07

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WestYorksRoyal He's playing for attention.

To be fair, if the right ownership came in I could see him returning "one day" after his time at Wrexham has come to a natural end - help rebuild a club close to his heart. But the hierarchy would be key.

I can't. Either we have the right set up and we're too big a job for him, or we have the wrong set up and he should avoid us like the plague.

If we get the right set up, we don't become a big job overnight. There would be a L2/L1 rebuild job.

He's done big expectations and failed before. Our expectations with the right ownership would be essentially instant promotion from L2 or at least pushing for L1 play offs first full season.

His recent success is NL and L2 with bags of money to buy success, whilst we can't pay for a signing for at least another year.

If we were where we are now 10 years ago, yeah.

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Dec 2023 12:11

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Snowflake Royal I can't. Either we have the right set up and we're too big a job for him, or we have the wrong set up and he should avoid us like the plague.

If we get the right set up, we don't become a big job overnight. There would be a L2/L1 rebuild job.

He's done big expectations and failed before. Our expectations with the right ownership would be essentially instant promotion from L2 or at least pushing for L1 play offs first full season.

His recent success is NL and L2 with bags of money to buy success, whilst we can't pay for a signing for at least another year.

If we were where we are now 10 years ago, yeah.

He took Colchester to the Championship and Bradford to the L1 play-offs, not to mention their cup run.

His Championship record is not good, but the only blemish at this level was Sunderland who were a massive club for whom success had to be instant. We're a patient bunch here. Even in L2 we'd know that the best success needs firm foundations.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Dec 2023 13:03

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WestYorksRoyal If we get the right set up, we don't become a big job overnight. There would be a L2/L1 rebuild job.

He's done big expectations and failed before. Our expectations with the right ownership would be essentially instant promotion from L2 or at least pushing for L1 play offs first full season.

His recent success is NL and L2 with bags of money to buy success, whilst we can't pay for a signing for at least another year.

If we were where we are now 10 years ago, yeah.

He took Colchester to the Championship and Bradford to the L1 play-offs, not to mention their cup run.

His Championship record is not good, but the only blemish at this level was Sunderland who were a massive club for whom success had to be instant. We're a patient bunch here. Even in L2 we'd know that the best success needs firm foundations.

He left Colchester in 2006 and Bradford in 2016. Hence why I said '10 years ago, yeah'


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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 11 Dec 2023 13:10

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Snowflake Royal He's done big expectations and failed before. Our expectations with the right ownership would be essentially instant promotion from L2 or at least pushing for L1 play offs first full season.

His recent success is NL and L2 with bags of money to buy success, whilst we can't pay for a signing for at least another year.

If we were where we are now 10 years ago, yeah.

He took Colchester to the Championship and Bradford to the L1 play-offs, not to mention their cup run.

His Championship record is not good, but the only blemish at this level was Sunderland who were a massive club for whom success had to be instant. We're a patient bunch here. Even in L2 we'd know that the best success needs firm foundations.

He left Colchester in 2006 and Bradford in 2016. Hence why I said '10 years ago, yeah'

I didn't mention his more recent achievements at Bolton and Wrexham. Big budget at the latter but we of all fans know that doesn't guarantee success.

The debate is whether it would ever be possible. In the event it was, I would expect 90% of fans to snap your hand off.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Dec 2023 13:13

It's not up to fans

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Re: Selles out

by Lower West » 11 Dec 2023 23:09

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WestYorksRoyal If we get the right set up, we don't become a big job overnight. There would be a L2/L1 rebuild job.

He's done big expectations and failed before. Our expectations with the right ownership would be essentially instant promotion from L2 or at least pushing for L1 play offs first full season.

His recent success is NL and L2 with bags of money to buy success, whilst we can't pay for a signing for at least another year.

If we were where we are now 10 years ago, yeah.


So who are these players that Wrexham has signed for bags of money?


A familiar name for one, George Evans from Millwall . Reckoned to be on around £7k a week.

Total player wage bill is over £ 5 million a year.

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Re: Selles out

by Elm Park Kid » 11 Dec 2023 23:13

Fans seem to have delusions of mediocrity on here. Even with new owners, our options will be limited when replacing Selles.


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Re: Selles out

by Orion1871 » 12 Dec 2023 10:25

Don't rise to that one guys. No one is that willfully thick to not know the difference.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 12 Dec 2023 22:11

16.7% career win rate for Selles in the league.

This guy is guilty of fraud.

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Re: Selles out

by scumbag » 12 Dec 2023 22:31

Get rid.

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 12 Dec 2023 22:42

Snowflake Royal 16.7% career win rate for Selles in the league.

This guy is guilty of fraud.

Stop bringing his Soton record into it. His record here doesn't need dragging down to make your point.

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Re: Selles out

by Sutekh » 12 Dec 2023 22:45

Kits had a real go at things. A team that tries to play academy nonsense safeball rather than taking risks. Not understanding why you would leave wifi on the bench in such a "go nowhere" nonperformance. Players don't seem to be all that fit, would be surprised if any player beat a 12k on the night.

Separately don't believe Selles handles confrontation well. Yet another "yes man" manager, eg Hutchinson practically disappears after his Shrewsbury comments - might well explain why other players go awol for periods of time.

Wish you could pin all these dreadful managerial appointments onto one person at the club, but over 6 years now you can't do that so really don't know why and how they keep finding and employing them.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 12 Dec 2023 22:46

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Snowflake Royal 16.7% career win rate for Selles in the league.

This guy is guilty of fraud.

Stop bringing his Soton record into it. His record here doesn't need dragging down to make your point.

His career performance is relevant to his quality as a manager and whether this is just down to our circumstances. And appointing him in the first place.

You're welcome to add the RFC exclusive stat yourself if you want.

It's not much different at 20%.

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Re: Selles out

by Hound » 12 Dec 2023 22:57

Getting to the point of not wanting to watch us with Selles in charge now

Think that was about the worst we’ve played this season. No excuse with having our first choice 11 on the pitch

Subs just like for like when we are playing crap. No plan b. Plan a just to run Azeez, Knibbs and Smith into the ground and hope they conjure something

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