The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

[Extended-Phenotype]

Could have done better than laying down like a towel for the first goal. Second and third goals you’d expect a goal keeper to at least get near headers scored standing in the middle of the six yard area. Fourth he basically scored himself by turning into a mannequin. Fifth should have been comfortable. May as well have been sitting on the bench for the sixth and seventh for all the good he did.

Shite. At least he's well and truly put this debate to bed. Guess the thread can be closed now.

[mr_number]

It's obviously a fairly meaningless debate, but he made a number of really top drawer saves last night as well. And if he's being criticised for some of those goals last night, then you have to ask how McCarthy didn't even get a hand to Ruiz's on Saturday, despite it being about a yard from him.

[Binfield Royal]

Whilst i am no goalie coach, it looked to me like the reason the first and last goals were scored were because he was too far off his line, enabling both Arsenal players to chip him.

Its McCarthy all the way for me I'm afraid. Feds looked chubby and slow.

However, the whole of the defence were rinsed with ease by the Arsenal so its not only Feds fault.

[PistolPete]

Pack your f/cking ute Federici and p|ss off back to Alcatrazia. Only needed one more nail for the coffin and you managed seven in one f/cking game.

+1,000,000

Wouldn't say any were "his fault", but he certainly "could have done better" for a fair few of them!!!

- 1,000,000

Federici is still the best keeper at this club.

[mr_number]

Whilst i am no goalie coach, it looked to me like the reason the first and last goals were scored were because he was too far off his line, enabling both Arsenal players to chip him.

Hmmmm....

[cmonurz]

Federici is still the best keeper at this club.

How much evidence do you require to the contrary?

[Alan Partridge]

Not Federici's greatest fan but I seriously think if McCarthy or Cech had been in goal it wouldn't have made a massive difference and the criticism in this case isn't fair, you guys have obviously made your mind up on him so that's why you are giving him this amount of stick. 1 goal of the 7 he had some culpability, the others he didn't have a prayer with.

[USA_Loyal_Royal]

Pack your f/cking ute Federici and p|ss off back to Alcatrazia. Only needed one more nail for the coffin and you managed seven in one f/cking game.

+1,000,000

Wouldn't say any were "his fault", but he certainly "could have done better" for a fair few of them!!!

- 1,000,000

Federici is still the best keeper at this club.

I lold, mccarthy >feds

[Big Foot]

Not Federici's greatest fan but I seriously think if McCarthy or Cech had been in goal it wouldn't have made a massive difference and the criticism in this case isn't fair, you guys have obviously made your mind up on him so that's why you are giving him this amount of stick. 1 goal of the 7 he had some culpability, the others he didn't have a prayer with.

Yup, my mind is made up - I hate his guts, he is a big stiff idiot and he is getting it. For sure.

[Snowball]

We were outplayed for long periods at Swansea and McCarthy made a string of good saves, a few "worldies"

I have always sided with Feds, but he looked ordinary last night.

He also looked distinctly overweight and not particularly arsed

1. Theo would probably have scored but Feds did go down too early. Diving made it easier for Theo.

2. Need to see the Giroud header again but it was from what, 10 yards and kinda looped? Didn't look "unstoppable".

3. Luckily, no longer remember

4. The fourth wasn't a great shot and I think a lot of keepers might have got that one.

5. Luckily, no longer remember

6. Slightly unsighted but I think he could've/should've saved that one fro Chamak.

7. Will be seen as Guthrie's error, (which it was) but I think he expected Feds to be way further up the pitch, last-chance etc

[Alan Partridge]

Not Federici's greatest fan but I seriously think if McCarthy or Cech had been in goal it wouldn't have made a massive difference and the criticism in this case isn't fair, you guys have obviously made your mind up on him so that's why you are giving him this amount of stick. 1 goal of the 7 he had some culpability, the others he didn't have a prayer with.

Yup, my mind is made up - I hate his guts, he is a big stiff idiot and he is getting it. For sure.

Ok one more...

[RoyalBlue]

We were outplayed for long periods at Swansea and McCarthy made a string of good saves, a few "worldies"

I have always sided with Feds, but he looked ordinary last night.

He also looked distinctly overweight and not particularly arsed

1. Theo would probably have scored but Feds did go down too early. Diving made it easier for Theo.

2. Need to see the Giroud header again but it was from what, 10 yards and kinda looped? Didn't look "unstoppable".

3. Luckily, no longer remember

4. The fourth wasn't a great shot and I think a lot of keepers might have got that one.

5. Luckily, no longer remember

6. Slightly unsighted but I think he could've/should've saved that one fro Chamak.

7. Will be seen as Guthrie's error, (which it was) but I think he expected Feds to be way further up the pitch, last-chance etc

And with that last comment you have deservedly lost all f*cking credibility in commenting on Feds' performance last night!

2) kinda looped? - reckon you must have been smoking what Melonhead says he's given up!

How convenient you don't remember two of them plus the several very good saves he made- more evidence of illicit substance abuse?!

Any qualified GK coaches or semi-pro keepers on here? I'd be more interested in their verdicts on Feds' performance.

[Ian Royal]

Whether he was bad or not, you can't really see him ousting McCarthy after that surely? Even if he didn't get much wrong, you can't conceed 7 (seven) and deserve a comeback.

[melonhead]

none apart from the first STOOD OUT as a fed error contributing to the goal, from where i was sat, miles away in thenorth stand, would have to look at replays, which i aint gonna do


thats doesnt mean id keep him in at the weekend though

mcarthy has been great, pulled off good saves, made few real errors, AND can command his 6 yard box

[RoyalBlue]

For those giving Feds so much stick last night, take a look at the Arsenal keeper's performance. Now that really was a 'mare!

Surprised Melon Head thinks Feds was at fault for the first. Maybe committed slightly too early but in a one on one situation the forward is always the favourite, and red hot favourite when it's the likes of TW!

The one goal I think he might have done better for was the 5th? (lost track) when he was beaten low down with a shot that crept inside his right hand post although I think he was slightly unsighted and the shot may even have taken a slight deflection. Even then question why our outfield players let their man run and run before shooting.

And no, IR, I'm not saying he should come back into the team but that's more on the fact that McCarthy has done nothing wrong as opposed to Feds being to blame for the score last night,

[melonhead]

For those giving Feds so much stick last night, take a look at the Arsenal keeper's performance. Now that really was a 'mare!

Surprised Melon Head thinks Feds was at fault for the first. Maybe committed slightly too early but in a one on one situation the forward is always the favourite, and red hot favourite when it's the likes of TW!

The one goal I think he might have done better for was the 5th? (lost track) when he was beaten low down with a shot that crept inside his right hand post although I think he was slightly unsighted and the shot may even have taken a slight deflection. Even then question why our outfield players let their man run and run before shooting.

And no, IR, I'm not saying he should come back into the team but that's more on the fact that McCarthy has done nothing wrong as opposed to Feds being to blame for the score last night,

i said it was the only one where he noticeably contributed to the goal(AND i qualified it with -from where i was sat, oxf*rd miles away)

for going down too early

so we agree

feds was not to blame for last night

although any keeper that doesnt look to themselves when conceding 7 shouldnt be one

[Ian Royal]

For those giving Feds so much stick last night, take a look at the Arsenal keeper's performance. Now that really was a 'mare!

Surprised Melon Head thinks Feds was at fault for the first. Maybe committed slightly too early but in a one on one situation the forward is always the favourite, and red hot favourite when it's the likes of TW!

The one goal I think he might have done better for was the 5th? (lost track) when he was beaten low down with a shot that crept inside his right hand post although I think he was slightly unsighted and the shot may even have taken a slight deflection. Even then question why our outfield players let their man run and run before shooting.

And no, IR, I'm not saying he should come back into the team but that's more on the fact that McCarthy has done nothing wrong as opposed to Feds being to blame for the score last night,

That's all the keeper debate really comes down to right now. Federici hasn't earnt a recall, he did just about earn a dropping, although could maybe have had an extra couple of games, but for his niggle of an injury. McCarthy's taken the shirt and done enough to keep it. Case closed until McCarthy starts performing badly.

[Cypry]

Case closed until McCarthy starts performing badly.

But do you know, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Feds between the sticks on Sunday....

[andrew1957]

Case closed until McCarthy starts performing badly.

But do you know, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Feds between the sticks on Sunday....

No chance - imagine the stick Brain would get if he picked Fed and he made another howler. Brain "would" most likely be sacked in the morning.

McCarthy has done nothing to deserve being dropped and Fed did nothing last night to suggest that he would do better.

[Cypry]

Case closed until McCarthy starts performing badly.

But do you know, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Feds between the sticks on Sunday....

No chance - imagine the stick Brain would get if he picked Fed and he made another howler. Brain "would" most likely be sacked in the morning.

McCarthy has done nothing to deserve being dropped and Fed did nothing last night to suggest that he would do better.

Aside from, in my opinion, offering significantly better distribution accuracy - if Hunt plays, then so, I think, will Feds...