Chairman Backing

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Madejski IN or OUT?

Yes- he's doing what I want for the team
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61%
No- I want him out as long as the replacement will put more money in
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27%
I can't make up my mind
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Chairman Backing

by PistolPete » 15 Feb 2011 23:11

:cry: Ok, so Doyle, Hunt, Bikey, Kitson, Shorey, Sigurdsson, Sonko etc etc have been sold and not properly replaced.

:) However, we are on a sound financial footing and young Reading born players are getting experience in a mid table championship team.

:| Bear in mind that Rodgers was sacked after only a short time in charge and the chief scout was appointed - a move also sanctioned by Madejski.

So, DO YOU BACK THE CHAIRMAN???

Progress Report:

15/02/2011
18/02/2011 61% Back JM, 30% want him out and 9% can't make their mind up
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Re: Chairman Backing

by roadrunner » 15 Feb 2011 23:21

We've been going backwards at a rate of knots ever since we finished 8th in the Premiership.

If we found a buyer who had the clubs best interest at heart and would invest, even only at the rate Madejski was pre promotion, then yes please.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by howser » 15 Feb 2011 23:43

Only but the few blinkered can see how we have faired under the present owner over the last four years, sell anyone who might be worth a bob or two and re-invest that in lower league or non-league replacements. We have created a very week squad in terms of quality, thats been clear over the recent run of matches, we have no one of any guile or quality to bring off the bench, just squad players, and as a club we are content to be where we are, mid table-top six area with no real threat of getting into the top league. We have a good manager, who if given the tools, would easily see us into the top division, but with the present top management that is not going to happen.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by Barry the bird boggler » 16 Feb 2011 07:44

Don't forget now's the time to renew your season ticket :roll:

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Re: Chairman Backing

by readingbedding » 16 Feb 2011 07:50

I'll be renewing.


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Re: Chairman Backing

by donface » 16 Feb 2011 08:40

This board is full of spoilt babies. We are currently playing way above our historical level. Any team of our size is almost inevitably going to go backwards after finishing eighth in the top tier of one of the largest and most monied leagues in the world. The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.

Promotion was a blip. Let's hope that our extended stay in the nosebleed section of the English leagues isn't.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by Wimb » 16 Feb 2011 08:55

donface This board is full of spoilt babies. We are currently playing way above our historical level. Any team of our size is almost inevitably going to go backwards after finishing eighth in the top tier of one of the largest and most monied leagues in the world. The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.

Promotion was a blip. Let's hope that our extended stay in the nosebleed section of the English leagues isn't.


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Re: Chairman Backing

by Terminal Boardom » 16 Feb 2011 09:00

Well, he sure as hell wasn't at the game last night. FACT!

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Re: Chairman Backing

by Wimb » 16 Feb 2011 09:02

Just want the mong brigade to suggest who's going to come in.

Unless there's someone who's waiting in the wings why even ask the question? :|


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Re: Chairman Backing

by FiNeRaIn » 16 Feb 2011 09:06

donface The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.



Posts like this make my blood boil. I put rubbish like this on a par with people still using " doing a bradford" as a reference point. Show me where anyone has suggested we spend more than a few million on one player, let alone 20, let ALONE robert fvcking earnshaw. Why is there no middle ground for you people? Its either spend next to nothing on players or going on a manchester city style spending spree and quadruple the wage bill and go bust.

Whats wrong with sensible spending and investment? Something we SHOULD be able to afford given we have received FAR more than the entire football league and half the premiership on player sales in the last few seasons and have invested an absolute fraction of it on the team.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by donface » 16 Feb 2011 09:09

It's very easy to spend other people's money, isn't it.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by Schards#2 » 16 Feb 2011 09:12

Wimb Just want the mong brigade to suggest who's going to come in.

Unless there's someone who's waiting in the wings why even ask the question? :|


This is the point.

There is no doubt in my mind that Reading will not progress further under Madejski and I suspect that even Madejski would acknowledge that. But in the absence of any credible alternative, you cannot sensibly start calling for him to go.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by Wimb » 16 Feb 2011 09:18

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donface The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.



Posts like this make my blood boil. I put rubbish like this on a par with people still using " doing a bradford" as a reference point. Show me where anyone has suggested we spend more than a few million on one player, let alone 20, let ALONE robert fvcking earnshaw. Why is there no middle ground for you people? Its either spend next to nothing on players or going on a manchester city style spending spree and quadruple the wage bill and go bust.

Whats wrong with sensible spending and investment? Something we SHOULD be able to afford given we have received FAR more than the entire football league and half the premiership on player sales in the last few seasons and have invested an absolute fraction of it on the team.


Who's spending more then us without A) Parachute Payments B) Significantly higher crowds/size of club C) A Rich sugar daddy chairman


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Re: Chairman Backing

by Handsome Man » 16 Feb 2011 09:19

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donface The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.



Posts like this make my blood boil. I put rubbish like this on a par with people still using " doing a bradford" as a reference point. Show me where anyone has suggested we spend more than a few million on one player, let alone 20, let ALONE robert fvcking earnshaw. Why is there no middle ground for you people? Its either spend next to nothing on players or going on a manchester city style spending spree and quadruple the wage bill and go bust.

Whats wrong with sensible spending and investment? Something we SHOULD be able to afford given we have received FAR more than the entire football league and half the premiership on player sales in the last few seasons and have invested an absolute fraction of it on the team.


You knew what he meant though when he mentioned spending 20 million on Robert Earnshaw.

Two seasons ago we invested and spent beyond our means in a gamble to get back into the premiership. In a season or two's time we will probably do the same, but you can't do that every season. This January was not just a matter of spending £2 million on a Swindon player or Leicester reserve to get certain promotion. It would have required giving him the wages that such a fee demands and then adjusting the wages of existing players within the club to match it. Our season ticket money does not support that kind of investment. It can only come from the pockets of our chairman. He will cough up soon - he always has done in the past.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by handbags_harris » 16 Feb 2011 09:32

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donface The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.



Posts like this make my blood boil. I put rubbish like this on a par with people still using " doing a bradford" as a reference point. Show me where anyone has suggested we spend more than a few million on one player, let alone 20, let ALONE robert fvcking earnshaw. Why is there no middle ground for you people? Its either spend next to nothing on players or going on a manchester city style spending spree and quadruple the wage bill and go bust.

Whats wrong with sensible spending and investment? Something we SHOULD be able to afford given we have received FAR more than the entire football league and half the premiership on player sales in the last few seasons and have invested an absolute fraction of it on the team.


Ok, let's go middle ground investment then:

Norwich City: higher ticket prices, more season ticket holders, higher average attendance by some distance - £23 million in debt.

Charlton Athletic: they got £16 million in one transfer hit, tried to spend in their first season back and are now plying their trade in League 1, and are saddled with debt in the millions also.

Crystal Palace: tried to spend their way back out of the Championship keeping their best players for a season, then eventually it came back to bite them on the arse a few years later after progressively diminishing seasons.

Bristol City: bankrolled by Steve Lansdown, they made losses of c£9 million over the last season.

The fact is that most clubs are in a similar boat to us, and many of those that appear to be spending more actually have an underlying issue financially. RFC doesn't want to end up in that trap, so the extra spending that you so vociferously pander for in order to push for promotion isn't going to happen. It's short-termist gambling and RFC simply won't do that now.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by RoyalBlue » 16 Feb 2011 10:53

Wimb Just want the mong brigade to suggest who's going to come in.

Unless there's someone who's waiting in the wings why even ask the question? :|


More intelligent debate 'mong' from the Madejski backers! :twisted:

How about you guys trying to explain why, when clubs are changing hands all over the place, Madejski is spectacularly failing to deliver on his stated intention to get out? It's not normally that difficult to sell a very well run business with bright prospects for the future.

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donface The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.



Posts like this make my blood boil. I put rubbish like this on a par with people still using " doing a bradford" as a reference point. Show me where anyone has suggested we spend more than a few million on one player, let alone 20, let ALONE robert fvcking earnshaw. Why is there no middle ground for you people? Its either spend next to nothing on players or going on a manchester city style spending spree and quadruple the wage bill and go bust.

Whats wrong with sensible spending and investment? Something we SHOULD be able to afford given we have received FAR more than the entire football league and half the premiership on player sales in the last few seasons and have invested an absolute fraction of it on the team.


Ok, let's go middle ground investment then:

Norwich City: higher ticket prices, more season ticket holders, higher average attendance by some distance - £23 million in debt.

Charlton Athletic: they got £16 million in one transfer hit, tried to spend in their first season back and are now plying their trade in League 1, and are saddled with debt in the millions also.

Crystal Palace: tried to spend their way back out of the Championship keeping their best players for a season, then eventually it came back to bite them on the arse a few years later after progressively diminishing seasons.

Bristol City: bankrolled by Steve Lansdown, they made losses of c£9 million over the last season.

The fact is that most clubs are in a similar boat to us, and many of those that appear to be spending more actually have an underlying issue financially. RFC doesn't want to end up in that trap, so the extra spending that you so vociferously pander for in order to push for promotion isn't going to happen. It's short-termist gambling and RFC simply won't do that now.


No mention of how it's all going so terribly wrong for Cardiff then!

We may not be going financially bankrupt but how long until we are bankrupt of player talent capable of performing well at Championship level?

During the last transfer window whilst other clubs invested sensibly in players that would allow them to kick on in their promotion/playoff campaign, we appear to have ‘invested’ in cut price replacements for the next lot of proven talent to be sold off come the summer.

‘Madejski’s Way’ is starting to look as though it could take us back down the structure quicker than it got us up it. The downward spiral is working well, limited investment in the playing squad, selling off of stars = lower attendances = limited investment in the playing squad, selling off of stars. To make matters worse not only are the results very disappointing but the quality of football on display is crap – Hoof!
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Re: Chairman Backing

by Wimb » 16 Feb 2011 10:57

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Wimb Just want the mong brigade to suggest who's going to come in.

Unless there's someone who's waiting in the wings why even ask the question? :|


More intelligent debate 'mong' from the Madejski backers! :twisted:

How about you guys trying to explain why, when clubs are changing hands all over the place, Madejski is spectacularly failing to deliver on his stated intention to get out? It's not normally that difficult to sell a very well run business with bright prospects for the future.


Has anyone made a bid?

Maybe people don't want to buy Reading? If Madejski was turning down good offers left right and centre you know full well it'd get leaked by someone who didn't care for him, as far as I can recall there's been 1 whispering of an 'Arab consortium' in the past five years and even that's just been pure speculation with no possible names attatched.

Like I said, if you can prove that there's someone who'll run the club better then Madejski waiting in the wings then go ahead otherwise whats open for debate?

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Re: Chairman Backing

by brendywendy » 16 Feb 2011 11:09

i neither back him, nor not back him.
as far as im concerened he's an irrelevance, since he isnt going to give us millions of pounds of his own money to pour down drains.

in those circumstances im glad weve balanced the books, and am very happy we are now using our academy products more.
of course id like us to spend more money on some great players. but we havent got it, so moaning about its a bit daft imo.

would i prefer a new owner, who is willing to invest, on new players,which will mean getting rid of our home grown lads? and who is only likely to want to leave at some point having made a profit on his investment?
not sure thats as good a thing as some people make out.

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Re: Chairman Backing

by brendywendy » 16 Feb 2011 11:10

donface This board is full of spoilt babies. We are currently playing way above our historical level. Any team of our size is almost inevitably going to go backwards after finishing eighth in the top tier of one of the largest and most monied leagues in the world. The fact that we have to sell players to stay afloat suggests to me that spanking 20 million quid on Robert Earnshaw is not going to be a successful long term strategy.
Promotion was a blip. Let's hope that our extended stay in the nosebleed section of the English leagues isn't.


:lol:

^^ this

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Re: Chairman Backing

by RoyalBlue » 16 Feb 2011 11:10

donface It's very easy to spend other people's money, isn't it.


He doesn't have to spend his own money. He could seek others with money to join him on the board. But in the past he has always made it clear that it is his ball and he's not keen to share it. After all they might have an idea not to have the stadium named after themselves. He could also seek to borrow more. Don't forget we are a very well run business with the potential to be the next Arsenal.

And if the heat really is too much for him,m he can always Ramsay off out of the kitchen!

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