REFWATCH: Reading v Southampton

[Barry the bird boggler]

As the games on the telly we get the privilege of watching West Yorkshire's



Mr Jonathan Moss

Flag waving in special way to get noticed on the telly will be David Richardson and Ronald Ganfield
And for the special occasion the 4th official will be the one and only Mr Andy D'Urso

Previously with Mr Moss

08 Jan 11 > Reading 1-0 West Bromich Albion (FA Cup)
31 Jan 09 > Queens Park Rangers 0-0 Reading
01 Nov 08 > Bristol City 1-4 Reading

[Silver Fox]

Jonathan "Not exactly Kate" Moss

[KEBEISTHEGREATEST]

He will be slower then Harte....Look at his size

[Ian Royal]

Attrocious referee.

Fonte should have been sent off.
Then he continually gave wrong decisions. One sticks out, in the first half we don't get a free kick down the right hand side, 2nd half identical situation but teams reversed - is a free kick.

Fair enough he sent off their captain, but that was about the only decision he got right all match.

Why exactly should Fonte have been sent off? That was very definitely not a clear goalscoring opportunity.

[Royal Rother]

Agreed.

[Basingstoke Royal]

Was that not a stone wall penalty at the end?

[PEARCEY]

Was that not a stone wall penalty at the end?

Nope..no pen but I disagree with the Fonte handball not being a red. Fonte was the last man and if he hadn't handled Church would have been through on goal. Definite red.

[SpaceCruiser]

Was that not a stone wall penalty at the end?

Nope..no pen but I disagree with the Fonte handball not being a red. Fonte was the last man and if he hadn't handled Church would have been through on goal. Definite red.

'greed. But rother seems to think no.

[Basingstoke Royal]

It was either a pen or a dive - and the ref gave neither.

[SpaceCruiser]

Er, it was outside the box, so it obviously would not be a penalty. Saying that, Fonte DID prevent a goalscoring opportunity with his handball, so he should have received a red card. Doesn't matter what big brain Mekon thinks, it's an unarguable fact.

[Ian Royal]

Was that not a stone wall penalty at the end?

Nope..no pen but I disagree with the Fonte handball not being a red. Fonte was the last man and if he hadn't handled Church would have been through on goal. Definite red.

Last man meaningless. He was close to Church, so could still have got back to make a challenge, Church needed to bring it under control, move in on goal, create an angle and shoot. Not in anyway a clear goalscoring opportunity.

Unless you've got the intellect of a dead spaniel, like Spacey.

[howser]

It wasn't a pen or a sending off, Davies in goal got the ball first and his momentum took him through Manset, defo no pen, in reality thought the ref had a pretty good game, Fonte handball could have gone either way, probably too far out to do the last man thing. Thats an objective view of the incidents IMHO.

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Howser wrote: It wasn't a pen or a sending off, Davies in goal got the ball first and his momentum took him through Manset, defo no pen, in reality thought the ref had a pretty good game, Fonte handball could have gone either way, probably too far out to do the last man thing. Thats an objective view of the incidents IMHO.

Whether you are too far out or not does not matter...if you are the last man and you commit the offence it's a RED.

[howser]

You're right but there was no way that it could have been seen as a clear goalscoring opportunity, defenders either side could have easilly got back,
right decisison.

[Elmer Park]

I thought the ref didn't get much wrong. On the handball there wasn't enough on the ball to say that it was an obvious goalscoring opportunity and he got the penalty call correct.

His assistants did make several errors, not least the one where we should have had a corner in stoppage time but the referee shouldn't be blamed for that. He has to support his assistant if the assistant is better placed.

[RoyalBlue]

Howser wrote: It wasn't a pen or a sending off, Davies in goal got the ball first and his momentum took him through Manset, defo no pen, in reality thought the ref had a pretty good game, Fonte handball could have gone either way, probably too far out to do the last man thing. Thats an objective view of the incidents IMHO.

Whether you are too far out or not does not matter...if you are the last man and you commit the offence it's a RED.

Don't think that is a correct interpretation of the laws. To take to the extreme, everyone bar the keeper pushes up for a corner. Ball cleared to an attacking player just outside his own box, in theory only the keeper to beat. A defender just behind him pulls him back before he can move away. Red card?!!

[Platypuss]

Howser wrote: It wasn't a pen or a sending off, Davies in goal got the ball first and his momentum took him through Manset, defo no pen, in reality thought the ref had a pretty good game, Fonte handball could have gone either way, probably too far out to do the last man thing. Thats an objective view of the incidents IMHO.

Whether you are too far out or not does not matter...if you are the last man and you commit the offence it's a RED.

Rubbish.

[Simon's Church]

Whereabouts in the rules does it mention last man?

[Platypuss]

You're right but there was no way that it could have been seen as a clear goalscoring opportunity

You're deluded if you think that would have mattered, he's the last man - he has to go.

Clear goal-scoring opportunity? Yeah, right.

[sandman]

You disagree that it would have been a goalscoring opportunity, where Church would have been through on goal with nobody having any chance of stopping him?
The guy not only blocked the ball with his hand, he also manhandled Church.

Had Fonte not been performing a professional foul, Church would have been through on goal alone, destined to score.

I wouldn't go quite that far with Churchy's record.