Corners and free kicks

[murof]

Why are we so rubbish at corners and even more so, free kicks?
We have been the same for the past few seasons, for the number of free kicks we get in dangerous positions, the conversion rate to goals (or even good goal attempts) is tiny compared to other teams

[super darren caskey]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

[RoyalinBracknell]

Some of our delivery has been poor but in the last few weeks I can recall a goal form a corner against QPR, and goals arising from crossed free-kicks against Fulham, Everton and Wigan.

In our current state, we do need to utilise these opportunities as effectively as possible. But I think there are deeper concerns right now.

[Ian Royal]

Conversion rates for corners are usually terrible. We seem to get quite a lot of goals from them IMO. And we scored from a free kick on Saturday.

In fact I'd say the exact opposite of the OP is true. Although we may not score many fks direct compared to teams in the PL. But that's because the teams have such high quality players.

I look forward to seeing the stats.

[Silver Fox]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

I believe any team managed by Harry redknapp scores from 125% of its corners

[RoyallyFcuked]

If anything id say that, despite the delivery of our corners and free kicks often being crap, it often looks like the only way we will actually score a goal.

[RoyalBlue]

We have wasted a lot of good opportunities to score with headers from corners. We have one player who has a very good conversion rate but McDermott and/or Hammond don't want him to play because he won't agree to their terms.

[murof]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

For the season upto 29/10/2012, goals scored from corners against total goals scored

Reading 0%
Aston villa 28.6%
Man Utd 25%
Spurs 17.7%
Wigan 20%
West Brom 24%
Southampton 21%
Arsenal 7% (no surprise there)

Just a sample, there are a few other on 0% QPR, Newcastle and Sunderland

[super darren caskey]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

For the season upto 29/10/2012, goals scored from corners against total goals scored

Reading 0%
Aston villa 28.6%
Man Utd 25%
Spurs 17.7%
Wigan 20%
West Brom 24%
Southampton 21%
Arsenal 7% (no surprise there)

Just a sample, there are a few other on 0% QPR, Newcastle and Sunderland

Thanks

[RFCSPACE]

Goals:
Wigan - 1 set piece and 1 total fluke
Everton - 2 set pieces
Norwich - None
QPR - 1 set piece

Without such set piece quality we'll be down and out by now.

[RobRoyal]

Why are we so rubbish at corners and even more so, free kicks?
We have been the same for the past few seasons, for the number of free kicks we get in dangerous positions, the conversion rate to goals (or even good goal attempts) is tiny compared to other teams

Strange time to complain about this after 2 goals in 2 games from free-kicks.

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

This thread is bollocks. The last couple of seasons?

The last couple of seasons we've scored loads from free kicks (Harte) and corners (Harte & Pearce/Gorkss).

We also scored from a direct free kick (Shorey) and a corner (Shorey and Gorks) away at QPR in the league cup, and look a threat at corners now with Morrison.

Also - didn't ALF head in from a free kick against Everton?

/end thread

[Optimist]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

For the season upto 29/10/2012, goals scored from corners against total goals scored

Reading 0%
Aston villa 28.6%
Man Utd 25%
Spurs 17.7%
Wigan 20%
West Brom 24%
Southampton 21%
Arsenal 7% (no surprise there)

Just a sample, there are a few other on 0% QPR, Newcastle and Sunderland

And then in the first game after 29/10/12, Gorkss scored from a corner vs QPR.

[murof]

Goals:
Wigan - 1 set piece and 1 total fluke
Everton - 2 set pieces
Norwich - None
QPR - 1 set piece

Without such set piece quality we'll be down and out by now.

I'm not saying we can't do without them, what I'm suggesting is that we need to do much better with the corners and even more so with the free kicks we get in very very good positions. When I'm watching live matches on TV and I see teams getting dangerous free kicks I get excited with anticipation and expect something good to happen. When its Reading playing I tend to think "lets get it over with and hope we're not exposed on the counter"

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

When I'm watching live matches on TV and I see teams getting dangerous free kicks I get excited with anticipation

You need to get out more.

[murof]

This thread is bollocks. The last couple of seasons?

The last couple of seasons we've scored loads from free kicks (Harte) and corners (Harte & Pearce/Gorkss).

We also scored from a direct free kick (Shorey) and a corner (Shorey and Gorks) away at QPR in the league cup, and look a threat at corners now with Morrison.

Also - didn't ALF head in from a free kick against Everton?

/end thread

Who said we haven't scored from free kicks and corners?
The thread is about not scoring enough from free kicks and corners

[murof]

When I'm watching live matches on TV and I see teams getting dangerous free kicks I get excited with anticipation

You need to get out more.

If I did that I would never get the remote control back from the wife

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

BraisingsteakRoyal wrote:
This thread is bollocks. The last couple of seasons?

The last couple of seasons we've scored loads from free kicks (Harte) and corners (Harte & Pearce/Gorkss).

We also scored from a direct free kick (Shorey) and a corner (Shorey and Gorks) away at QPR in the league cup, and look a threat at corners now with Morrison.

Also - didn't ALF head in from a free kick against Everton?

/end thread

Who said we haven't scored from free kicks and corners?
The thread is about not scoring enough from free kicks and corners

Yeah, but you're completely wrong.

http://www.byfarthegreatestteam.com/pos ... open-play/

We scored the same number of goals last season from set pieces as Man City (and 1 more than Man Utd), with a much higher % conversion rate (39%) than most other teams.

Next.

[murof]

Why are we so rubbish at corners and even more so, free kicks?
We have been the same for the past few seasons, for the number of free kicks we get in dangerous positions, the conversion rate to goals (or even good goal attempts) is tiny compared to other teams

Strange time to complain about this after 2 goals in 2 games from free-kicks.

And if we had scored with all our other free kicks how many goals would we have and at what position would we be in the league.
it still doesn't change the fact that we score from a very few free kicks from exceptionally good positions

[Ian Royal]

What are the other teams conversion rates compared to ours?

Can you remind me

For the season upto 29/10/2012, goals scored from corners against total goals scored

Reading 0%
Aston villa 28.6%
Man Utd 25%
Spurs 17.7%
Wigan 20%
West Brom 24%
Southampton 21%
Arsenal 7% (no surprise there)

Just a sample, there are a few other on 0% QPR, Newcastle and Sunderland

ooo an 8 game sample. that's truely reflective of the last few years.

It also has absolutely zero information about conversion rate of set pieces, it's simply a percentage of goals scored coming from set pieces. This is not the same thing.

D- must try harder.