Wingers for 13/14

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Wingers for 13/14

by ImReadingTillIDie » 23 Jun 2013 12:52

With Drenthe having signed we now have Kebe, HRK, McCleary, Macanuff, Drenthe and possibly Blackman all competing for the two wing positions. Who do we want starting next year then? Who out these should go?

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Snowball » 23 Jun 2013 13:02

Given that Drenthe MIGHT have disciplinary issues I think we will need 5, not 4 wingers, just in car

I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.

McAnuff has been captain, and can play centrally so is a useful squad player, but
much as I like him I don't see him improving, and I think Adkins is looking for players
who can develop through the season. HRK, McLeary are that, Drenthe if he's matured
and then there's Obita...

So if they stay I could see Jimmy/Drenthe totalling 46 games between them

Obita may be cover, but if none of the above leave, he will probably go out on loan?

Blackman is not really a winger

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by ImReadingTillIDie » 23 Jun 2013 13:10

Who do u think will go? And if HRK and Macanuff go will we need to replace them?

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Judge Drenthe » 23 Jun 2013 14:16

Drenthe can also play behind the striker, so don't be surprised if he's in the Gylfi role. He also likes a shot from 25 years with that beaut of a left foot, something else we've been missing.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by kwik-silva » 23 Jun 2013 15:11

Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'


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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by St. Brynjar » 23 Jun 2013 15:21

Ideally Jimmy and Drenthe, with McCleary and Jobi covering them respectively.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by P!ssed Off » 23 Jun 2013 17:01

My sister just encountered HRK, and girlfriend, walking his dog in Virginia Water.
Apparently HRK's rat of a dog was sniffing my sister's leg, the pervert.

Should HRK really be strolling about in the park a mere 5 weeks before season commencement?
HRK out!
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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Jun 2013 18:01

kwik-silva
Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'


18 games in 40 last season, is.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Ian Royal » 23 Jun 2013 19:49

ImReadingTillIDie With Drenthe having signed we now have Kebe, HRK, McCleary, Macanuff, Drenthe and possibly Blackman all competing for the two wing positions. Who do we want starting next year then? Who out these should go?

And Obita.

Kebe........Drenthe........McAnuff

is the best combination IMO. Although with Kebe's fitness Robson-Kanu would be perfectly good enough to take over, either cutting in from the right or switching McAnuff there and playing on the left. And McCleary's not exactly a poor option.

Blackman's the only odd man out in that list really. And I can't see him starting many games without no new strikers and an injury crisis.

TBH I expect to see an extremely fluid attacking three behind a lone striker with them all inter-changing and the middle man drifting wide to overload the flanks. I'd be just as happy seeing 4-4-2, but we only really have two top Champ strikers on the books, so we'll need signings there to be able to.


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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Snowball » 23 Jun 2013 20:52

kwik-silva
Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'



Fairy Nuff. I love stats and those amaze me. I "feel like" Kebe is "always injured"

That's why stats are good

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Avon Royal » 23 Jun 2013 20:55

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Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'



Fairy Nuff. I love stats and those amaze me. I "feel like" Kebe is "always injured"

That's why stats are good


To be fair he was probably carrying an injury in a number of those games.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Lovely hot donuts! » 23 Jun 2013 21:12

Snowball Given that Drenthe MIGHT have disciplinary issues I think we will need 5, not 4 wingers, just in car


Even though he might be a cock, his disciplinary record on the field (particularly in recent years) has actually been quite average.


However, I do see Nigel wanting to use Jobi in a predominantly central role which means that I don't think anyone is surplus to requirements.
Would think the left wing is Royston's to lose and any of Jimmy, Garath or Hal could claim that right wing with them all more than capable of dominating in the championship.
Would think that Nick Blackman would be more used up front.
As for Jordan Obita, don't expect he'll be loaned but kept as a fifth winger who may make the odd appearance when required and possibly get his chance in both cup competitions.
It's worth remembering we do still have seven subs so all should be able to get regular involvement.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by maffff » 24 Jun 2013 12:26

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Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'



Fairy Nuff. I love stats and those amaze me. I "feel like" Kebe is "always injured"

That's why stats are good


How many of those games was he recovering from an injury and badly badly out of form? It takes him half a season to get up to speed after a knock normally.


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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by melonhead » 24 Jun 2013 12:26

id like to play three wingers, with them all interchanging, and playing through the middle too

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by melonhead » 24 Jun 2013 12:28

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Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'


18 games in 40 last season, is.


not sure you can base your liability assessment on the 1 season out of five where he didnt play a significant part

yeah he takes a while to get back up to full speed after an injury(not half a season though)
but even while not fully fit hes better than most

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Royal91 » 24 Jun 2013 12:40

I can see our set up being based on Chelsea.

Karacan/Guthrie in front of the back four.

Then the three attacking players wouldn't really have set positions.

I reckon Jimmy will be back next season as he's had longer to recover now. Adkins with about 3 games left in the season said Jimmy was gliding in and out of the cones.

For me I would start

======Karacan======Guthrie=======


Kebe=========HRK============Drenthe

Let them interchange throughout.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by TommyF » 24 Jun 2013 12:54

Drenthe is likely the most outstanding talent we have ever had at this club with the ability to control a game.

Given we have just signed him I think we should try not to play him unless we really have to, ideally not even putting him in the matchday squad most weeks.

[edit]. Sorry, I forgot Brian had left, therefore Kebe and Drenthe ideally

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Ian Royal » 24 Jun 2013 17:52

Royal91 I can see our set up being based on Chelsea.

Karacan/Guthrie in front of the back four.

Then the three attacking players wouldn't really have set positions.

I reckon Jimmy will be back next season as he's had longer to recover now. Adkins with about 3 games left in the season said Jimmy was gliding in and out of the cones.

For me I would start

======Karacan======Guthrie=======


Kebe=========HRK============Drenthe

Let them interchange throughout.

There's goals in them thar players!

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Hoop Blah » 24 Jun 2013 21:01

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Snowball I adore Jimmy, but he's an injury liability. Another reason for needing extra cover.


33, 36, 41, 42 games in our previous championship seasons isn't exactly a 'liability'



Fairy Nuff. I love stats and those amaze me. I "feel like" Kebe is "always injured"

That's why stats are good


I think part of the problem is that he's often taken a lot longer to come back than they've originally suggested. I'd also argue that those stats are a bit misleading because, like players such as Doyle and Kitson, Kebe was rushed back and played a fair bit when he was clearly still struggling with injuries and so he potentially played more than his injuries should've permitted.

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Re: Wingers for 13/14

by Albert Spangler » 24 Jun 2013 22:33

ImReadingTillIDie With Drenthe having signed we now have Kebe, HRK, McCleary, Macanuff, Drenthe and possibly Blackman all competing for the two wing positions. Who do we want starting next year then? Who out these should go?


So you didn't watch any of the games with Adkins in charge then?

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