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Is this the end for Oliver Norwood? page 2 Panty Sniff g8

by quickwingerswife » 19 Dec 2015 10:16

When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot and the team was crying out for a ball playing midfielder. I can't see Norwood being much use to this high tempo up an under approach. McDermott deserved the sack before as he tried to play like this in the Premiership where he got found up.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Winston Smith » 19 Dec 2015 10:17

quickwingerswife When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot


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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by West Stand Man » 19 Dec 2015 10:19

quickwingerswife When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot and the team was crying out for a ball playing midfielder. I can't see Norwood being much use to this high tempo up an under approach. McDermott deserved the sack before as he tried to play like this in the Premiership where he got found up.


Here's a thought for you to ponder. Maybe he was looking for a ball playing CM to channel through but AZ wasn't spreading the money?

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by quickwingerswife » 19 Dec 2015 10:29

Yeah, good point, but he had some good players in the youth set up who were farmed out. If you remember, the ball never got carried or passed much in the middle third. The tactics became so raw I just got fed up and bored I stopped going. Oliver Norwood has been the only star this season, I'm sure his time will be up.

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by genome » 19 Dec 2015 10:31

If were to play a long ball game, surely Norwood's ability to pick a pass would be ideal?


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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by quickwingerswife » 19 Dec 2015 10:44

No, he would just get urged from the bench to get rid and that little bit of time a good midfield general needs would get painted out. Mick Gooding, Johnny Giles, Simon Osborne et al thrived on this 2 second thought space, Norwood's got it but it's going to get knocked out of him with McDermott.

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by 3points » 19 Dec 2015 10:45

I think you could be right, but for the wrong reason. It wouldn't surprise me if BM went for a Tish / Quinn midfield two. Pretty similar to a Ledge / Karacan or Tabb combination.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by quickwingerswife » 19 Dec 2015 11:14

Yep, partly my point. Norwood will be on the sub's bench a lot. McDermott will see him as a luxury player. It's a sad day for me when he got reinstalled as Manager. I hope he's seen a few good ball players on his scouting missions for Arsenal and changed his outlook.

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by Royalwaster » 19 Dec 2015 11:28

On the other hand Norwood has played every game this season and even though he's played pretty well, like the rest of the team he's not been amazing .... so if a different combination works better, maybe this is the end of him.


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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by West Stand Man » 19 Dec 2015 11:49

quickwingerswife No, he would just get urged from the bench to get rid and that little bit of time a good midfield general needs would get painted out. Mick Gooding, Johnny Giles, Simon Osborne et al thrived on this 2 second thought space, Norwood's got it but it's going to get knocked out of him with McDermott.

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You clearly don't watch much of Norwood's play then. He is not a ball carrier and is always looking to get the ball moving quickly. If any shouts were to come from the bench it might be for him to hold the ball a bit (but that is unlikely as his value in in distribution accurately and at pace).

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by Mr.Swainey » 19 Dec 2015 11:56

quickwingerswife It's a sad day for me when he got reinstalled as Manager.


It was a sad day for me when I had to read this oxf*rd garbage.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Ian Royal » 19 Dec 2015 12:01

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quickwingerswife When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot and the team was crying out for a ball playing midfielder. I can't see Norwood being much use to this high tempo up an under approach. McDermott deserved the sack before as he tried to play like this in the Premiership where he got found up.


Here's a thought for you to ponder. Maybe he was looking for a ball playing CM to channel through but AZ wasn't spreading the money?

He got one under Anton in Guthrie, it just didn't work out. He had one originally in Howard too.

If McDermott reverts to a direct style targeting balls into the channels from deep with two midfield spoilers it will be a waste of the talent within the squad as we've been built away from that for three years.

I think, and hope he'll recognise the strengths in his squad and work to get the best from them.

That includes a front line with plenty of pace and flair who can interchange fluidly and a central midfield capable of playing a passing game. I think the difference we'll see is that passing game turned higher tempo with more emphasis on going for the kill, particularly late on.

McDermott sides never give up and always believe there's a goal in them. Integrate that into an ability to move the ball around with short passes and hopefully we'll get the (successful) style of football we've been after since he left.
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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Mid Sussex Royal » 19 Dec 2015 12:03

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quickwingerswife When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot and the team was crying out for a ball playing midfielder. I can't see Norwood being much use to this high tempo up an under approach. McDermott deserved the sack before as he tried to play like this in the Premiership where he got found up.


Here's a thought for you to ponder. Maybe he was looking for a ball playing CM to channel through but AZ wasn't spreading the money?


What about Guthrie?

Remember the quote when he was first dropped "what do you want from me boss?"


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by RoyalBlue » 19 Dec 2015 12:46

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quickwingerswife When McDermott was here before he used the long ball a lot and the team was crying out for a ball playing midfielder. I can't see Norwood being much use to this high tempo up an under approach. McDermott deserved the sack before as he tried to play like this in the Premiership where he got found up.


Here's a thought for you to ponder. Maybe he was looking for a ball playing CM to channel through but AZ wasn't spreading the money?


So I've been pondering - you mean he was looking for someone like Marek Matějovský?

Or maybe someone like Danny Guthrie?

He had them but he didn't use them properly and then discarded them.

And wasn't Matt Mills just following the manager's instructions when he kept pinging those long balls that led to 'MillsGate' ?

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Snowball136 » 19 Dec 2015 12:51

We had wingers then

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Woodcote Royal » 19 Dec 2015 13:03

quickwingerswife The tactics became so raw I just got fed up and bored I stopped going. Oliver Norwood has been the only star this season, I'm sure his time will be up.


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Meanwhile, many more stopped going when Bogdkins the tactical pygmy had his back four playing pass the parcel with what we had previously known as a football, in order to the beat the opposition by possession and to hell with sticking the ball in the net.....................................I believe the twat plys his trade up north these days should you wish to join him.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Froomes » 19 Dec 2015 13:06

McDermotts 'long ball' tactics >>>>>> Anything those two clowns served up since his departure.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Hendo » 19 Dec 2015 13:28

Apart from the first 2 months of this season when we couldn't put a foot wrong and we were 2nd in the league and we couldn't stop scoring? Or a tactically perfect game against Arsenal, which apart from one mistake from one player would have given us a shot at reaching the clubs first FA Cup final? Or NA first season when we missed out on the play-offs on the last day?

Just trying to add a bit of balance to what seem to be very shot memories.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by Armadillo Roadkill » 19 Dec 2015 13:34

And wasn't Matt Mills just following the manager's instructions when he kept pinging those long balls that led to 'MillsGate' ?


Yes he was. And that manager was Brendan Rodgers.

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Re: Is this the end for Oliver Norwood?

by West Stand Man » 19 Dec 2015 13:36

Armadillo Roadkill
And wasn't Matt Mills just following the manager's instructions when he kept pinging those long balls that led to 'MillsGate' ?


Yes he was. And that manager was Brendan Rodgers.


Dont let the facts get in the way of a decent argument though!! :D

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