Slight concern ---> Significant concern

[Millsy]

Recent results and Pauno out were encouraging BUT I'm beginning to get anxious and I don't want the Owners to think that everything is ok now just because protests have stopped.

Ince may end up ok, too early to tell, but the crushing defeat to Blackpool and the late substitutions worry me, along with reports by Blackpool fans that he and Rae are clueless. As an interim, fine I don't care, but I'm really concerned that Owners aren't looking desperately for a replacement. They clearly didn't look AT ALL for a replacement when things were awful with Pauno, only recently giving Ince a call it seems out the blue. So given they've not looked when it was crystal clear we needed a change, I can't see them trying now. If it took 8 defeats in a row and horrible protests for them to realise Pauno is not wanted, how long will it take them to realise it if Ince isn't the answer? 4 games? 6 games? We only have 12 games left. Let alone then actually start looking and get a man in. It'll be too late unless the process is underway now.

Best case scenario, they started looking after the Fulham defeat and are closing in on a decent man, with Ince just making up a couple of games before he comes in. But the worst-case scenario of them just doing bugger all as they see how 'interim' Ince pans out really worries me. Any indication from anywhere (sauces, STAR meetings etc) that they are actually actively looking?

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I think given their club statement, they will be exploring both options. Both being, option 1, hire a permanent manager before the season ends incase our league situation gets worse and option 2 being waiting until the end of the season.

I don't doubt there will be many discussions with managers now and their representatives about all cases. The appointment will be made before the season ends I'm sure but the time of the announcement may be before the season finishes in case they need to come in or during the summer (more likely).

There are plenty of discussions to be had as there are many scenarios that could happen, the division we are playing in and the timing of a new appointment being likely two of the biggest factors at this time.

[Millsy]

So basically you just "don't doubt it". On what basis? That's my point.

"The division we are playing in" should absolutely not be a factor at all. Pauno Out wasn't some sort of punishment it was a pragmatic decision (hopefully!) to secure Championship status.

If Ince is interim while we get a saviour in asap that's fine. Or if he unexpectedly turns out to be a superstar and we don't need someone that's also fine. But when will that decision be taken? It's not an option for me to stick with Ince, see how it goes and then decide who we get in at the end of the season or just before "depending on the division we are playing in" as you seem to be content with.

The new man is to secure Championship status. End of. So it's urgent and I want to know they're looking now so he can come in in time if Ince is shit. He lead us to a 4-1 defeat. Our situation is dire. We don't have time for RTGs and positivity just because it feels nice.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

For arguments sake, I do not have anything to back up that we are doing that, but as a professional organisation in football, I'd imagine that would be the process of appointing a manager.

The division we playing in would 100% be a factor based on what you've said their yourself, that "hopefully" we will be playing Championship football. Considering the entire outlook of the club looks drastically different in League One that it does to the Championship, certain assurances that would be agreed between an incoming manager and board might shift depending on the division we are in. For example, the wages we can offer players, not just signings, but retaining players as well.

The decision will be being taken now, in fairness to the club, we do not have to announce anything yet either. Ince has a win and a defeat, that's not a bad start, even if the result on Saturday was disappointing. The club are in a bit of a no-lose situation with the manager, if Ince is poor, we can potentially fast-forward the appointment of a new manager in hope that the decision means we survive, if Ince is good, we stay up. It's all a bit desperate, I understand, but such is the nature of the situation we find ourselves in and that we've largely been responsible for putting ourselves in. I don't really care if survive by being desperate, or by being calm, providing we survive, that's the priority.

Of course Ince's job or a new manager's job is to survive, that's the aim. But there is little point in announcing Ince will be here until the end of the season and then u-turning that decision with 6 games left if we are in the drop zone as us, as fans, will moan again that the club don't know what they are doing. Likewise, there is no point saying we will appoint a new manager pronto if Ince is doing ok or better either, as that wouldn't exactly fill him with much confidence either. These discussions will be ongoing though. Again, I don't doubt that the club will be taking this decision regarding Ince or a new manager on a result-by-result basis and so far 1-0-1 from 2 is better than what we've had in a lot of 2 game periods for most of this season, barring Pauno's last 2 games. Yes, ideally, we'd want a better measure than just 2 games, but that's all Ince has had. We've had a good result and a poor one. We've failed in some areas, but improved in others.

[Millsy]

Omg I've found someone wordier than I am/was.

You think they're looking but you have no idea, I get that. You also think they may have a manager lined up but won't change even if he drags us into the drop zone with 6 games left?? I think that would literally insane.

Speculation aside I hope they're looking and have someone poised to replace him asap if we have a couple more crushing defeats. Interim means interim.

[Stevie G]

What about a protest, it seems to work.

[CountryRoyal]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we lose the next 6 and he gets offered a 4 year contract.

[NathStPaul]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we lose the next 6 and he gets offered a 4 year contract.

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

[Elm Park Kid]

Well, past experience of manager recruitment doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. No one is going to come in and turn things around immediately - we're more of an oil tanker than a toy train that just needs to be put back on the track. Ince is well respected and understands the league, I have faith that he can keep us above Barnsley at least.

Is it too much to ask though that we just get a manager who actually had relevant, recent experience of managing a championship club, with some degree of success? We can spend £32m a year on wages but for some reason can't find the budget to recruit a known manager.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Omg I've found someone wordier than I am/was.

You think they're looking but you have no idea, I get that. You also think they may have a manager lined up but won't change even if he drags us into the drop zone with 6 games left?? I think that would literally insane.

Speculation aside I hope they're looking and have someone poised to replace him asap if we have a couple more crushing defeats. Interim means interim.

No I said they could change with 6 games left and with us in the drop zone, that's likely a scenario they would be discussing with any incoming manager. I'd imagine the initial conversation would be to takeover once the season has concluded, but there could be an agreement to pull that forward if necessary. Again, nothing to say that's what is happening, but that to me sounds like the most sensible play at this stage.

Again, I don't think the club really need to announce anything yet, we are in a position with the manager where we can win. If Ince doesn't work out, we can potentially appoint a permanent manager, if Ince does work out, happy days, shake hands in the summer and appoint a permanent manager.

[Millsy]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we lose the next 6 and he gets offered a 4 year contract.

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

My guess is it's more that he doesn't have faith in the Owners.

We'd all - barring the usual suspeKKKts - love the Guv to succeed but wishful thinking aside we need a plan.

[NathStPaul]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we lose the next 6 and he gets offered a 4 year contract.

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

My guess is it's more that he doesn't have faith in the Owners.

We'd all - barring the usual suspeKKKts - love the Guv to succeed but wishful thinking aside we need a plan.

We need a football man in charge of football affairs at the club. The current CEO is a patsy and a complete nonentitiy, we need someone with expeience of English football to oversee all football operations next season. Unless that happens I can only see doom.

[Millsy]

Agreed.

[CountryRoyal]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we lose the next 6 and he gets offered a 4 year contract.

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

My guess is it's more that he doesn't have faith in the Owners.

We'd all - barring the usual suspeKKKts - love the Guv to succeed but wishful thinking aside we need a plan.

Yeah my dig was aimed at the plethora of confusingly illogical decisions the owners have reportedly made and continue to make.

Although Ince hardly fills with me unbridled optimism, especially after some pretty suspect subs at Blackpool, but so long as we stay up and he's only short term I won't lose too much sleep.

[Millsy]

Just like the action thread started early and I upgraded quickly, I'm upgrading the concern to significant now.

I bloody well hope we have a man ready to sign. Is ince the right man to save us? Quite early, yes, but I've seen nothing to give me confidence.

[Loafer]

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

My guess is it's more that he doesn't have faith in the Owners.

We'd all - barring the usual suspeKKKts - love the Guv to succeed but wishful thinking aside we need a plan.

We need a football man in charge of football affairs at the club. The current CEO is a patsy and a complete nonentitiy, we need someone with expeience of English football to oversee all football operations next season. Unless that happens I can only see doom.

GUO Patsy

[NathStPaul]

Just like the action thread started early and I upgraded quickly, I'm upgrading the concern to significant now.

I bloody well hope we have a man ready to sign. Is ince the right man to save us? Quite early, yes, but I've seen nothing to give me confidence.

Can you please provide a full concern chart that shows all the various levels of concern?

[Zip]

You're not a big fan of the guv'nor CR?

My guess is it's more that he doesn't have faith in the Owners.

We'd all - barring the usual suspeKKKts - love the Guv to succeed but wishful thinking aside we need a plan.

We need a football man in charge of football affairs at the club. The current CEO is a patsy and a complete nonentitiy, we need someone with expeience of English football to oversee all football operations next season. Unless that happens I can only see doom.

Yep

[Millsy]

Just like the action thread started early and I upgraded quickly, I'm upgrading the concern to significant now.

I bloody well hope we have a man ready to sign. Is ince the right man to save us? Quite early, yes, but I've seen nothing to give me confidence.

Can you please provide a full concern chart that shows all the various levels of concern?

Shh… I’m making it up as I go along.

[Snowflake Royal]

Supremely confident
Super confident
Very confident
Confident
Mild concern
Slight concern
not confident
Concerned
Significant concern
Very concerned
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