Hammond telling porkies?

[The Goat was fed]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal. The Cambridge chairman seems to think differently:

http://www.cambridge-united.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

It would be nice to know who is telling the truth.....

[floyd__streete]

Bearing in mind earlier this week RFC were telling su that Dave Kitson's non-appearance in friendlies was down to a common cold, does anyone really believe a word that the management of RFC say any more?

[friday fan]

Everyone knows that Hammond has been punching above his weight in his position for years - he was not the best keeper in football and a worse football director or whatever his position is called. I would say he is one of the main reasons why the club does not go forward - get him out

[strap]

Bearing in mind earlier this week RFC were telling su that Dave Kitson's non-appearance in friendlies was down to a common cold, does anyone really believe a word that the management of RFC say any more?

No. When are the fans going to realise that the triumverate of Mr Ego, Sir Steve and Wally Hammond are past their collective sell by date? Only Sir Steve has an established reputation in football, and he has clearly been influenced by the Egomaniac for too long.

All this chatter about who we're going to buy with the £5.5M is laughable!!! Apart from 17.5% of it going to Cambridge (after deduction of original fees and increments), the rest will disappear into Mr Ego's back pocket, no doubt appearing in the accounts as backdated interest on his £40M LOAN to the club.

We MIGHT just see a £400k signing from some French second division side, a player who can ran fast but has no idea what a football is, nor what its for. Well we need to balance the wings don't we!?

Totally sick of all this oxf*rd cr@p. Haven't been so angry about the way the club is run since the dark days of Burns.

[Alan Partridge]

While we are on the subject of Nick (don't call me Nicky Hammond) just what is the point of him? Seriously.

What is it that Nick(y) Hammond does that is absolutely essential to the running of RFC and what exactly does he do that Steve Coppell a man with 20+ years managerial experience and huge respect in the game can't do?

'Once Steve had told me that is was in the best interests of the club, it was up to me to negotiate the best deal' Ooh look at you, is Steve Coppell completely incapable of doing that for himself? Afterall he as pointed out earlier has 20 years expereince of buying and selling players.

'I provide the link between the football side and the boardroom' Ok, but as previously stated Coppell has a great relationaship with the board. In the past he has worked for SImon Jordan among others so knows how difficult some boards can be. Ours isn't apprantly. Whatever Coppell has asked for he has gotten, so again how is Hammond's role essential to RFC?

'Myself and Brian MCdermott have put forward names to Steve but he doesn't want to follow them up' Unsurprising really after he trusted the two of you regarding Halford and Fae among others. So scouting certainly isn't your forté, I don't think it's any coincidence that we have struggled to attract quality players when our main link and point of contact is a man with absolutely no standing in British football, nevemrind world football. A DOF is usally an old experienced manager with many years experience throughout the game instantly the likes of Lennie Lawrence, Harry Redknapp for a time, Dave Bassett etc have all been director of football's at clubs. All with minimal success. As for Hammond, an ex Plymouth Argyle and Swindon reserves keeper is the voice of RFC.

If Madejski is looking to 'cut the cloth' and make a few cutbacks, have a serious look at your board John. Have a lookat what Nigel Howe does apart from embarass the club in the press and especially what Nick(y) is contributing.

[Southbank Old Boy]

While we are on the subject of Nick (don't call me Nicky Hammond) just what is the point of him? Seriously.

What is it that Nick(y) Hammond does that is absolutely essential to the running of RFC and what exactly does he do that Steve Coppell a man with 20+ years managerial experience and huge respect in the game can't do?

'Once Steve had told me that is was in the best interests of the club, it was up to me to negotiate the best deal' Ooh look at you, is Steve Coppell completely incapable of doing that for himself? Afterall he as pointed out earlier has 20 years expereince of buying and selling players.

I'm quite happy for someone else to do the nitty gritty bits like this so that Coppell can get on with building and motivating his squad.

Hammond also oversee's Dolan and the Academy and someone else said Hammond doesn't have a good reputation in the game. I think thats miles away from the truth. He was a decent keeper, a seemingly excellent goalkeeper coach and had now built himself a good enough reputation in the game as an administrator that Wenger was considering him for the same role at Arsenal.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal. The Cambridge chairman seems to think differently:

http://www.cambridge-united.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

It would be nice to know who is telling the truth.....

Clever wording from the Cambridge end. At no point do they say we're getting a chunk of the fee that Reading have just received.

All they say is that they've alreadt received a large sum of money deposited in the Cambridge bank account.

I have a feeling they may have done some deal a while ago to effectively buy out the clause and this is Cambridge's spin on the whole affair.

[howser]

Telling porkies ?? I several months ago lost faith in anything that is spouted out from the club, there have been so many qoutes from the club which can be taken with a pinch of salt, i.e. "we will do our business in the summer", did they ......no, "we will stay with what we have got till the January window", did they buy ..........No, and so it goes on. How easy it has been to lose all faith in the owner and management.

[RoyalBlue]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal. The Cambridge chairman seems to think differently:

http://www.cambridge-united.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

It would be nice to know who is telling the truth.....

Clever wording from the Cambridge end. At no point do they say we're getting a chunk of the fee that Reading have just received.

All they say is that they've alreadt received a large sum of money deposited in the Cambridge bank account.

I have a feeling they may have done some deal a while ago to effectively buy out the clause and this is Cambridge's spin on the whole affair.

But for the fact that the Cambridge site says that 'a deal was struck with Reading earlier this week.'

Their Chairman also makes the point that he believes the actual fee paid up front at this point is considerably less than the headline fee.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal. The Cambridge chairman seems to think differently:

http://www.cambridge-united.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

It would be nice to know who is telling the truth.....

Clever wording from the Cambridge end. At no point do they say we're getting a chunk of the fee that Reading have just received.

All they say is that they've alreadt received a large sum of money deposited in the Cambridge bank account.

I have a feeling they may have done some deal a while ago to effectively buy out the clause and this is Cambridge's spin on the whole affair.

But for the fact that the Cambridge site says that 'a deal was struck with Reading earlier this week.'

Their Chairman also makes the point that he believes the actual fee paid up front at this point is considerably less than the headline fee.

Sorry, I meant they might've done a deal already, so earlier this week, but my "a while ago" didn't really give that impression.

Hammond saying that no sell fee is due, is probably his truth, partly because we've paid it up, and partly because we've done a deal to pay, for example 15% of the upfront fee now, instead of 10% of the total fee as and when the other payments are received when Stoke owe us more.

One in the hand worth more than two in the bush type thing.

So potentially Hammond isn't telling porkies, he's just spinning whats happened too.

[Arch]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal.

Where does Hammond say this? It is stated in the OS report followed by a quote on another matter from Hammond, but at no point is that statement attributed to Hammond. Still, a great excuse for the usual suspects to vent their spleens on a subject about which they know precisely nothing. Couldn't allow Nick Hammond to get credit for getting a great deal for Kitson; let's invent that he's lying about it.

By the way, worst thread ever.

[Dirk Gently]

Nicky Hammond says there was no sell-on clause for Cambridge Utd in the Kitson deal. The Cambridge chairman seems to think differently:

http://www.cambridge-united.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

It would be nice to know who is telling the truth.....

Clever wording from the Cambridge end. At no point do they say we're getting a chunk of the fee that Reading have just received.

All they say is that they've alreadt received a large sum of money deposited in the Cambridge bank account.

I have a feeling they may have done some deal a while ago to effectively buy out the clause and this is Cambridge's spin on the whole affair.

But for the fact that the Cambridge site says that 'a deal was struck with Reading earlier this week.'

Their Chairman also makes the point that he believes the actual fee paid up front at this point is considerably less than the headline fee.

That's standard practice for all teams - hardly any transfers except very small ones are pain in full, up front. Just about all of them have various clauses and are frequently paid in instalments over several years.

[Seaside Royal]

I used to use the players bar after every game at Elm park and spoke with Hammond on a couple of occasions (in his playing days).
He struck as a decent guy who was quiet, respectful and considered his response to random questions carefully. He certainly had the respect of the players around him such as Shaka, Phil Parkinson, Primus and co. Having been in his company I would say he makes for a decent and trusted administrator although not the best in terms of being "high Profile". His job description does not include scouting, his job is to administer between the parties involved a secure the best deal for the club.

Personally I think selling Kitson for 5.5m is a cracking deal. It takes nerves, experience and a trusted pair of hands to pull off a deal as big as this.

Hammond will go on to greater things.... Well done Hammond and thank you Stoke for 5.5m of your well earned money!

[RoyalBlue]

Clever wording from the Cambridge end. At no point do they say we're getting a chunk of the fee that Reading have just received.

All they say is that they've alreadt received a large sum of money deposited in the Cambridge bank account.

I have a feeling they may have done some deal a while ago to effectively buy out the clause and this is Cambridge's spin on the whole affair.

But for the fact that the Cambridge site says that 'a deal was struck with Reading earlier this week.'

Their Chairman also makes the point that he believes the actual fee paid up front at this point is considerably less than the headline fee.

That's standard practice for all teams - hardly any transfers except very small ones are pain in full, up front. Just about all of them have various clauses and are frequently paid in instalments over several years.

I know that and maybe it's also why RFC didn't bother to mention it when telling us how they'd maximised the deal?

[Royal Yank]

Couldn't allow Nick Hammond to get credit for getting a great deal for Kitson; let's invent that he's lying about it.

Indeed, even the U's chairman is being complimentary in the way we have done our business.


Cambridge United are pleased to announce that a deal was struck earlier this week with Reading FC regarding the 'sell-on' fee for David Kitson.

"There are a lot of unscrupulous people and clubs in football and I am delighted with the manner by which Reading have conducted the whole matter," said U's Chairman, Philip Law.

"Where sell-on fees are calculated as a percentage of the subsequent transfer fee, as was the case in the Kitson agreement, it is frequently the case that figures are manipulated so as to reduce the selling club's liability.

"Reading have been honest and open about the entire process and we have been open about the entire process, and we have been able to reach an agreement which has already seen a very large sum of money deposited in the bank account of Cambridge United."

[Ian Royal]

Interesting that we've got to the premiership under Hammond, Coppell and Madejski and yet none of them know what they are doing and are holding the club back.

Did you all really think that once we were there that we'd stay there for decades? Or that it would just be a bit of a hard slog but mid table or better would keep happening? The first set of problems and it's whining about how crap the people in charge are.

Half of you were about ready to annoint Madejski and Coppell as Gods a year ago. The fickle over reactions and vitriolic propaganda spouted on here by some sickens me.

[Drew_3]

Bearing in mind earlier this week RFC were telling su that Dave Kitson's non-appearance in friendlies was down to a common cold, does anyone really believe a word that the management of RFC say any more?

No. When are the fans going to realise that the triumverate of Mr Ego, Sir Steve and Wally Hammond are past their collective sell by date? Only Sir Steve has an established reputation in football, and he has clearly been influenced by the Egomaniac for too long.

All this chatter about who we're going to buy with the £5.5M is laughable!!! Apart from 17.5% of it going to Cambridge (after deduction of original fees and increments), the rest will disappear into Mr Ego's back pocket, no doubt appearing in the accounts as backdated interest on his £40M LOAN to the club.

We MIGHT just see a £400k signing from some French second division side, a player who can ran fast but has no idea what a football is, nor what its for. Well we need to balance the wings don't we!?

Totally sick of all this oxf*rd cr@p. Haven't been so angry about the way the club is run since the dark days of Burns.

your comments are becoming tedious and predictable!!

[Friday's Child]

No flak for Hammond from me. Given that we see very little of "what goes on behind closed doors" and Arsenal wanted him at some stage, I am confident that he is pretty good at his job. There is a lot to be said about keep the club lower-profile, despite the efforts of other clubs to blurt out their constant wonton desire to be a "big club" - Portsmouth, Forest, etc who constantly go on about it.

We will get there, just be patient.

[Ian Royal]

Indeed, it isn't the result that is fun it is the journey. If you stop enjoying the journey what on earth is the point?

Getting somewhere only gives you a momentary sense of elation, and look what it's brought! Depression as dark as the days when Burns routinley spunked a couple of million on a load of shit scots and we sunk towards the bottom of tier 3.

May I remind people that we've barely spent 10 years in the second tier unless I'm very mistaken, suddenly being back here is the worst thing to happen ever! I plan on thoroughly enjoying this season. Hopefully there'll be plenty of wins and good games. I know there'll be a fair few losses and dissapointments, but then that makes the wins all the more enjoyable.

[friday fan]

If Wenger still wants Hammond then i say to Hammond get the O*ford out of RFC and Mr Mad lets get a bit more high profile in this club, if you talk the talk then walk the walk