Who do you want to leave/think will leave, and who do you want as their replacements?
Based on us being in the Championship next season.
Have Left
Coppell
Downes
Dillon
Lita
Little - back to Pompey
Kitson - back to Stoke
Duberry
Murty
Hahnemann
Sodje
Harding - released by Ipswich = free agent.
+ Academy lads.
The MVP
May Leave
S. Hunt (more likely than others)
Harper
Bikey
Doyle?
Staying
Gunner - has been offered a new deal, unsure of whether he has signed yet.
Scott Davies - confirmed
Ben Hamer - confirmed
Likewise with Oli Bozanic
Replacements
Brendan Rodgers - Manager - Confirmed + His backroom staff to come in.
Adam Federici - promoted to 1st choice GK
Jamal Campbell-Ryce - LM
David Mooney - promoted to 4th striker
James Henry - 1st choice RM
Jem Karacan - 1st choice CM
Pearce - 1st choice CB
Possible other ins
Andrew Surman/Andrew Lallana - LM/CM
Andrew Driver - LM
Beckford - if his discipline improves, another Lita possibly?
Rickie Lambert, Simon Cox, quick, Lambert is quite tall.
A tall striker, who can head the ball please!
Edited as of 16/05/09
The Inevitable Summer Shake Up - Manager, Staff and Players
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May as well add Murty to that. His contract his up in the summer and I can't see him being offered another, unless in some other kind of capacity.*
Can't see Beckford coming here, not much chance of that.
I do hope Bikey stays though.
*but that would only happen if Coppell stays on, which I doubt.
Can't see Beckford coming here, not much chance of that.
I do hope Bikey stays though.
*but that would only happen if Coppell stays on, which I doubt.
Doyle will leave.
I actually cannot wait for a clear out. Far too much dead wood here now. We need a new manager with fresh ideas, a fresh approach, someone that doesn't know the players and doesn't have loyalties to any of them.
The S.Hunt's, Doyle's, Harper's can all go. We wont have Little or Kitson here either (I doubt we'll sign Little anyway, not the same player now).
In come the kids, energy, drive, desire and work ethic.
I actually cannot wait for a clear out. Far too much dead wood here now. We need a new manager with fresh ideas, a fresh approach, someone that doesn't know the players and doesn't have loyalties to any of them.
The S.Hunt's, Doyle's, Harper's can all go. We wont have Little or Kitson here either (I doubt we'll sign Little anyway, not the same player now).
In come the kids, energy, drive, desire and work ethic.
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Deathy Doyle will leave.
I actually cannot wait for a clear out. Far too much dead wood here now. We need a new manager with fresh ideas, a fresh approach, someone that doesn't know the players and doesn't have loyalties to any of them.
The S.Hunt's, Doyle's, Harper's can all go. We wont have Little or Kitson here either (I doubt we'll sign Little anyway, not the same player now).
In come the kids, energy, drive, desire and work ethic.
I think you're being a little optimistic. For all we know a new manager could come in and just do the same crap that coppell has done this year. No-one will take SHunt or Harper. They will probably bring in a couple of washed up pro's, i.e. Savage, and next season will be even worse than this one.
Of course clubs will take Harper and S.Hunt. Even just on reputation. That is all of course Stephen Hunt is, a reputation. He isn't a good winger as such, never really has been. Just very commited and made some headlines for the wrong reasons, but it got people talking about him.
Both can go, and I hope both do go. Same for Doyle.
Not being over optimistic at all. Im will take mid-table security for a few seasons if we see more of the kids over the crap Coppell stands by week in week out.
Time for change, and we have to hope we get lucky again with a new manager.
Both can go, and I hope both do go. Same for Doyle.
Not being over optimistic at all. Im will take mid-table security for a few seasons if we see more of the kids over the crap Coppell stands by week in week out.
Time for change, and we have to hope we get lucky again with a new manager.
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I think the best thing to happen for the club and all involved (and being realistic) would be:
OUT
Coppell, Lita, Long, Doyle, Kitson, Little, Ingimarsson, Gunnarsson, SHunt, Golbourne, & Murty
IN
Manager, Striker x 2 & Winger, less urgent are a Defensive Midfielder & Centre Back
We could also afford to lose one of Harper & Matejovsky Maybe both.
That Leaves:
Goalkeepers (2):- Federici & Hahnemann
Right Backs (2):- Rosenior & Kelly
Left Backs (2):- Armstrong & ....(Kelly can cover both)
Centre Backs (4):- Pearce, Bikey, Duberry & Cisse
Right Midfield (2):- Henry & Kebe
Left Midfield (2):- ..... & Kebe
Central Midfield (4):- Karacan, Tabb, Harper, Matejovsky, Cisse
Strikers (4):- NHunt, Mooney, ..... & ......
Duberry could play a part next season, but I'd be just as happy with him being replaced.
OUT
Coppell, Lita, Long, Doyle, Kitson, Little, Ingimarsson, Gunnarsson, SHunt, Golbourne, & Murty
IN
Manager, Striker x 2 & Winger, less urgent are a Defensive Midfielder & Centre Back
We could also afford to lose one of Harper & Matejovsky Maybe both.
That Leaves:
Goalkeepers (2):- Federici & Hahnemann
Right Backs (2):- Rosenior & Kelly
Left Backs (2):- Armstrong & ....(Kelly can cover both)
Centre Backs (4):- Pearce, Bikey, Duberry & Cisse
Right Midfield (2):- Henry & Kebe
Left Midfield (2):- ..... & Kebe
Central Midfield (4):- Karacan, Tabb, Harper, Matejovsky, Cisse
Strikers (4):- NHunt, Mooney, ..... & ......
Duberry could play a part next season, but I'd be just as happy with him being replaced.
Spot on, my spec eyed sister.
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Ingi > Doobs IMHO
Better captain too!
Better captain too!
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Better captain too!
As I've said on another thread I just don't get Ivar's popularity as a supposed captain. I'd have rated Ivar better than Duberry two years ago, but his powers are seriously on the decline. If we can remodel the team in such a way as to prevent Duberry trying to pass then IMO he's the better defender. As a back up I'd rather have him.
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Better captain too!
As I've said on another thread I just don't get Ivar's popularity as a supposed captain. I'd have rated Ivar better than Duberry two years ago, but his powers are seriously on the decline. If we can remodel the team in such a way as to prevent Duberry trying to pass then IMO he's the better defender. As a back up I'd rather have him.
Ok, I do see where you're coming from. However, I feel our second-half of the season slump is down to the lack of a leader, in this case Ingi amongst our ranks. Now, whether he will recover sufficiently from his injury to ever play for us again is another matter, and if not then is dispensible, as is Duberry IMHO. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, and I'm not going to argue who is right and wrong, mine is that a fit Ingi is better than a fit Duberry.
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As I understand it Duberry is out of contract in June and at 35 is very unlikely to be offerred an extension. (Thank God IMHO!)
I can see S Hunt going to a 'better/bigger' Championship club - maybe replacing Duff at Newcastle if they go down?
Apart from that, I do wonder who in the Premier League will want our players. Boro wanted Harps but they're coming down as well. Doyle to Villa? With Sidwell and Shorey such disappointments? Wolves at best for him I think; if not, bench-warming at Bolton or somesuch. Lita will get a free, but again probably within this division. Apart from that, it's up to the (assumed) new manager to offload the oldies, further develop the youngsters, and maybe bring in some old heads for experience. Wonder if Kevin Phillips fancies another promotion campaign?
Apart from that, I do wonder who in the Premier League will want our players. Boro wanted Harps but they're coming down as well. Doyle to Villa? With Sidwell and Shorey such disappointments? Wolves at best for him I think; if not, bench-warming at Bolton or somesuch. Lita will get a free, but again probably within this division. Apart from that, it's up to the (assumed) new manager to offload the oldies, further develop the youngsters, and maybe bring in some old heads for experience. Wonder if Kevin Phillips fancies another promotion campaign?
A club like Wolves might be interested in both him and Doyle to be honest. Perfect signings for a club like Wolves. What, £5m for Doyle and £2m for Hunt? I'd wet my pants for that!
Managers will see our 'star' players for the potential they've shown over the last 3 or 4 years not just the poor form the whole club has been inflicted with recently. Managers will believe they can get the best out of our players and so they'll still be in demand.
The wages might be a little high for some, but we're forever being told that we don't pay our players the going rate (otherwise we'd be able to attract new players blah blah blah) so I can't see too many potential suitors being put off by the £££'s.
As for the summer clear out, I think Ian Royal has got it pretty close to how I see it. I think Matejovsky and Bikey may well follow the others out the door as both have international reputations and will be looking to get back to top flight football here or abroad. I wouldn't be too surprised if Harper was the one to stay though.
I'd also like to see Cisse and Kebe added to the list of players leaving as I just don't think they cut it for me (Cisse less so than Kebe) and if they can attract half decent fee's I'd ship them out.
There are plenty of players out there that have shown they have the talent to play in this division and should still see Reading as a step up and we should still have the clout to offer them an increased wage to seal the deal.
The wages might be a little high for some, but we're forever being told that we don't pay our players the going rate (otherwise we'd be able to attract new players blah blah blah) so I can't see too many potential suitors being put off by the £££'s.
As for the summer clear out, I think Ian Royal has got it pretty close to how I see it. I think Matejovsky and Bikey may well follow the others out the door as both have international reputations and will be looking to get back to top flight football here or abroad. I wouldn't be too surprised if Harper was the one to stay though.
I'd also like to see Cisse and Kebe added to the list of players leaving as I just don't think they cut it for me (Cisse less so than Kebe) and if they can attract half decent fee's I'd ship them out.
There are plenty of players out there that have shown they have the talent to play in this division and should still see Reading as a step up and we should still have the clout to offer them an increased wage to seal the deal.
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current squad taken from soccerbase.
i believe Coppell will go, as might Downes and Dolan, and dillon migh think is time to move on as well.
1 Marcus Hahnemann (G) go
2 Graeme Murty (D) go
3 Chris Armstrong (D) stay
4 Kalifa Cisse (M) go
6 Brynjar Gunnarsson (M) go
7 Marek Matejovsky (M) go
8 Leroy Lita (F) go
9 Kevin Doyle (F) go
10 Stephen Hunt (M) go
11 Noel Hunt (F) stay
14 Jimmy Kebe (M) go
15 James Harper (M) go
16 Ivar Ingimarsson (D) stay
21 Jem Karacan (M) stay
22 Liam Rosenior (M) stay
23 Andre Bikey (D) go
24 Shane Long (F) go
26 Alex Pearce (D) stay
29 Michael Duberry (D) go
32 Adam Federici (G) stay
37 Jay Tabb (M) stay
42 Julian Kelly (D) stay
Radoslav Vasilev (F) who??
of the loan players i would like to see Church, mooney Henry back and part of the squad.
It is going to be a big job in the summer regardless of which league we are in.
i believe Coppell will go, as might Downes and Dolan, and dillon migh think is time to move on as well.
1 Marcus Hahnemann (G) go
2 Graeme Murty (D) go
3 Chris Armstrong (D) stay
4 Kalifa Cisse (M) go
6 Brynjar Gunnarsson (M) go
7 Marek Matejovsky (M) go
8 Leroy Lita (F) go
9 Kevin Doyle (F) go
10 Stephen Hunt (M) go
11 Noel Hunt (F) stay
14 Jimmy Kebe (M) go
15 James Harper (M) go
16 Ivar Ingimarsson (D) stay
21 Jem Karacan (M) stay
22 Liam Rosenior (M) stay
23 Andre Bikey (D) go
24 Shane Long (F) go
26 Alex Pearce (D) stay
29 Michael Duberry (D) go
32 Adam Federici (G) stay
37 Jay Tabb (M) stay
42 Julian Kelly (D) stay
Radoslav Vasilev (F) who??
of the loan players i would like to see Church, mooney Henry back and part of the squad.
It is going to be a big job in the summer regardless of which league we are in.
Hoop Blah I'd also like to see Cisse and Kebe added to the list of players leaving as I just don't think they cut it for me (Cisse less so than Kebe) and if they can attract half decent fee's I'd ship them out.
Agree with all that you say except the Cisse bit above. If a manager can see the unfulfilled potential of yer SHunts and Doyles, what about Kalifa, who was developing really nicely earlier in the season? His performance at Bristol City was the best individual contribution of the season in my view, and he wasn't too shabby in the other games in and around that time. Then tactics constrained his influence and he's being moved into the "not up to it" pen. I still think he's got a lot to give this club.
I didn't go to City so didn't see his performance there but I've just never seen enough from him to think he's ever going to be better than average in English football.
He makes the occassional good tackle but isn't physically dominant and seems a yard behind the game and so I don't think he can provide that defensive shield we need. He isn't a very good or creative passer of the ball and although he scores the odd goal he isn't ever going to be a consistent goal threat like a Sidwell and I just think he's too one paced and drifts around a bit too much for a British central midfielder. His injury against Sheff United being a prime example of where a quicker witted player would've had the ball under and started another attacked before Henderson was anywhere near him.
If Harper goes then I could see a place for Cisse but he just doesn't do it for me and I'd rather we saw another player come in that might grow into a Premiership players (a bit like Sidwell did I suppose) instead of one I don't think will ever be good enough for that level.
He makes the occassional good tackle but isn't physically dominant and seems a yard behind the game and so I don't think he can provide that defensive shield we need. He isn't a very good or creative passer of the ball and although he scores the odd goal he isn't ever going to be a consistent goal threat like a Sidwell and I just think he's too one paced and drifts around a bit too much for a British central midfielder. His injury against Sheff United being a prime example of where a quicker witted player would've had the ball under and started another attacked before Henderson was anywhere near him.
If Harper goes then I could see a place for Cisse but he just doesn't do it for me and I'd rather we saw another player come in that might grow into a Premiership players (a bit like Sidwell did I suppose) instead of one I don't think will ever be good enough for that level.
Cisse after another year in English football could become a solid championship midfielder.
Keeping him wouldn't be the worst thing we could do this summer.
Keeping him wouldn't be the worst thing we could do this summer.
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AlexY25 Cisse after another year in English football could become a solid championship midfielder.
Keeping him wouldn't be the worst thing we could do this summer.
TBF though we really should be looking for better than just a 'solid championship midfielder'.
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Ian RoyalKitson12 Ingi > Doobs IMHO
Better captain too!
As I've said on another thread I just don't get Ivar's popularity as a supposed captain. I'd have rated Ivar better than Duberry two years ago, but his powers are seriously on the decline. If we can remodel the team in such a way as to prevent Duberry trying to pass then IMO he's the better defender. As a back up I'd rather have him.
Remind me, how have Reading done without a calm assured Icelandic presence at the back?
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