WHO IS TO BLAME?

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Who must take **most** of the blame for the continuing slump in fortunes of RFC?

John Madejski and his fellow directors
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46%
Chief Exec Nigel Howe
10
9%
Director of football Nick(y) Hammond
11
10%
Steve Coppell
4
4%
Brendan Rodgers
17
16%
Nobody - we have just been incredibly unlucky
15
14%
 
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WHO IS TO BLAME?

by floyd__streete » 29 Dec 2009 18:15

There has been a load of stick for the board here over the last 24 hours or so as many more people are finally cottoning on to the likelihood of our second relegation in three seasons, but the board have backed managers with cash in the recent past, only to see money wasted on the likes of Halford, Fae, Mills etc. etc. Perhaps the DoF should hold his hands up too?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Ian Royal » 29 Dec 2009 18:16

I want to select more than one Floyd. Can you set it up so we can pick at least 4?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Big Foot » 29 Dec 2009 18:22

The "SAVE OUR STEVE" car park idiots

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Arch » 29 Dec 2009 18:26

The way money has been wasted - not just on transfer fees for the above named players, but massive salaries for players like Hunt who took the piss - is a huge factor for me. I don't know who's ultimately to blame for that, but it's hard to see how Nick Hammond - who I've frequently defended on here - could be completely out of that loop.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by royal goof » 29 Dec 2009 18:29

The blame lies with most of them.. Madejski (based on recent past), directors, Howe and Hammond.

All creaming off their bit and letting the club slide further - we need to get rid now before it's too late.


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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Big Foot » 29 Dec 2009 18:31

Something Hammond does need to be held accountable for is how we managed to release Charlie Austin from the academy whilst Hammond was "Academy Director". 46 goals in 46 games for Poole Town earnt him a move to Swindon where he's on 6 goals in 6 games there.

Yet he was on our books, why did we miss out on him?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by FiNeRaIn » 29 Dec 2009 18:37

Can you add " all of the above bar coppell" in there?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Royalee » 29 Dec 2009 18:39

Coppell for relegation and the loss of the likes of Doyle, Bikey etc as we failed to go up last season, Madejski for asset-stripping the club, being short-sighted with regards to the management and failing to see that our squad isn't good enough to survive.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by readingbedding » 29 Dec 2009 18:46

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!


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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Focher » 29 Dec 2009 18:58

Royalee Coppell for relegation and the loss of the likes of Doyle, Bikey etc as we failed to go up last season, Madejski for asset-stripping the club, being short-sighted with regards to the management and failing to see that our squad isn't good enough to survive.


Totally agree Royalee, although i would add to that Hammond for being a prick.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Focher » 29 Dec 2009 19:00

FiNeRaIn Can you add " all of the above bar coppell" in there?


If Coppell was not to blame for relegation and our total capitulation in the 2nd half of last season, who was?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by floyd__streete » 29 Dec 2009 19:00

Ian Royal I want to select more than one Floyd. Can you set it up so we can pick at least 4?


I thought about adding extra options, but I was just (mildly) interested to see who (this particular section of) the fanbase felt were particularly responsible for our troubles.

Arch The way money has been wasted - not just on transfer fees for the above named players, but massive salaries for players like Hunt who took the piss - is a huge factor for me. I don't know who's ultimately to blame for that, but it's hard to see how Nick Hammond - who I've frequently defended on here - could be completely out of that loop.


Tend to agree with you, Arch. I also realise that this poxy, irrelevant poll is worthless anyway.....because the real answer has to the question I pose has to be the way in which the modern day, agent-driven, greedy game of football has allowed it's wealth to be so inequally divided. There really is no sustainable top flight future for little clubs like Reading without fairly ludicrous expenditure from big businessmen who use the 'franchise' as part of a property-portfolio with precious little care for the communities which fostered these historic clubs in the first place.

I'll always follow RFC because the club were the first to develop my interest in the game. But more and more I tend to prefer watching non-league football for so many reasons.
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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Arch » 29 Dec 2009 19:01

Any chance of holding the players just a bit accountable? It is failing at football we're talking about, after all.


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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by readingbedding » 29 Dec 2009 19:02

Where's 'It's football, a game - get on with it.' option?

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by handbags_harris » 29 Dec 2009 19:18

There isn't one, because the business aspect is being debated. Without the business aspect football at the level being spoken about doesn't exist. If bad business decisions are taken then it inevitably leads to failure on the pitch. The problem with RFC is the recent decisions made by the Chairman and his Board of Directors, the Director of Football, and the previous two incumbents of the Manager's office. To answer the question in the thread title, they are all collectively to blame.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by winchester_royal » 29 Dec 2009 19:25

Arch Any chance of holding the players just a bit accountable? It is failing at football we're talking about, after all.


'Greed. The blame must lie at the feets of Kebe, Hunt et al for the failure to get promoted last season.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Maguire » 29 Dec 2009 19:30

floyd__streete There has been a load of stick for the board here over the last 24 hours or so as many more people are finally cottoning on to the likelihood of our second relegation in three seasons, but the board have backed managers with cash in the recent past, only to see money wasted on the likes of Halford, Fae, Mills etc. etc. Perhaps the DoF should hold his hands up too?


I blame you.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Baines » 29 Dec 2009 19:35

winchester_royal
Arch Any chance of holding the players just a bit accountable? It is failing at football we're talking about, after all.


'Greed. The blame must lie at the feets of Kebe, Hunt et al for the failure to get promoted last season.


At last, a plural for "feet".

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by handbags_harris » 29 Dec 2009 19:36

winchester_royal
Arch Any chance of holding the players just a bit accountable? It is failing at football we're talking about, after all.


'Greed. The blame must lie at the feets of Kebe, Hunt et al for the failure to get promoted last season.


Your thought processes really are ridiculously simplistic sometimes mate. Could it be that the players possibly played to their full potential but actually just weren't good enough? Or could it be that the manager played perfectly adequate players but utilised a formation or tactical system that didn't work? Or could it be the Director of Football's fault for not going out and buying players identified as being able to infuse better quality into the team? Or could it be the Chairman and Board's fault for saying no to the question of possibly buying a better quality player? As I said before, the blame lies collectively at the player's, previous two manager's, DoF, BoD, and Chairman's feet.

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Re: WHO IS TO BLAME?

by Ian Royal » 29 Dec 2009 19:43

I'm assuming you are asking who is to blame for our possible relegation this season then, in which case the answer is quite clearly Rodgers currently.

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