Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

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Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Barry the bird boggler » 07 Feb 2010 09:11

Referee

OLIVER LANGFORD

Linesmen

A Davies
DK Rock

4th Official

SP Rubery



Say hello Ollie, big smile for the camera....

Mr Langford is on his 2nd season coping with FL games. Tuesday will seem him take charge of his 4th game at Championship level and his 46th game since refereeing his first FL game last season. In 45 games so far he's booked 121 and sent off 6 (2.7 yellows and 0.13 reds a game). His 3 previous Championship games have seen him book 10 home players and no away players.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Skyline » 07 Feb 2010 14:09

Barry the bird boggler


Is it another sign you're getting older when it's not just policemen who start looking younger?

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by SLAMMED » 07 Feb 2010 16:23

SP ''Bring me a Sh''Rubery

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by ankeny » 07 Feb 2010 16:34

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Barry the bird boggler


Is it another sign you're getting older when it's not just policemen who start looking younger?

He looks like Stan Laurels lovechild

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Dirk Gently » 07 Feb 2010 16:44

A gay Chinaman things the 4th official is Rubery.


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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 10 Feb 2010 08:31

Oliver Langford you are not fit to referee games of football. You are pedantic little twat who does not know the rules. You don’t give decisions and look at your assistants for help and they get it wrong.

Gunnarsson jumps and wins the ball fairly you award a free kick to Plymouth laughable.

Plymouth constantly foul players all night ands should be going in the book and the first decision you make to book a player is when Doobie kicks the ball away. The player who committed the over the top foul gets away scot free.

By the reaction of the Plymouth keeper at the end I question your decision to award RFC a penalty in injury time but need to see a video of this.

All three of you were a joke please don’t come back to Reading.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by fester_royal » 10 Feb 2010 08:47

while my blue stripe tinted glasses are still on from last night i wont dare to question the pen, especially as ive yet to see it on replay.
but totally agreed about the game as a whole, this guy was absolutely awful! and that takes some doing in this league. these guys have to do several exams and assesments and this is the best that comes out the system?? are they just fast tracking younger refs to make up for the aged ones? :roll:

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Sun Tzu » 10 Feb 2010 09:42

Hard to criticise the lino on the West touchline bu tth eone on the East was poor and the ref was generally hopeless.

The foul on Long which led to Church's goal being 'disallowed' was simply an inexcusable error. How Church could have been given off side following Long flicking the ball through as he was chopped down I simply cannot understand. Two shocking corner awards (one each way) when attackers clearly were the last player to touch the ball. The list goes on....

From high in the North Stand the pen looked spot on though. HRK got a yard on the defenders and the only thing that was going to happen was they would bring him down.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Elmer Park » 10 Feb 2010 10:04

Agree completely with Sun Tzu about all three Officials.

The referee and the east side assistant had no confidence in their decision making which to be fair is a pretty well thought out summary of their situation, given that right from the first few minutes they were unable even to see who kicked the ball out of play let alone make judgments on whether or not a foul had been committed.

The referee looked to me like a vicar who had been expecting to referee the church choir against the sea scouts only to find he was refereeing an adults game.

I am biased of course but at least I think he got the penalty decision correct which did I suppose take a little courage to give so late in the game.


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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Sun Tzu » 10 Feb 2010 10:23

Elmer Park I am biased of course but at least I think he got the penalty decision correct which did I suppose take a little courage to give so late in the game.


I was certain we would get a pen at some stage and it was coincidence that the first chance the ref had to give one was so late.

He'd made some howlers and so many times the ref ends up 'rewarding' a team with a penalty. In this case it helped that from where I was it was clearly a foul, but I thought he was just waiting for the chance to point to the spot...

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Row Z Royal » 10 Feb 2010 10:28

Sun Tzu Hard to criticise the lino on the West touchline bu tth eone on the East was poor and the ref was generally hopeless.

The foul on Long which led to Church's goal being 'disallowed' was simply an inexcusable error. How Church could have been given off side following Long flicking the ball through as he was chopped down I simply cannot understand. Two shocking corner awards (one each way) when attackers clearly were the last player to touch the ball. The list goes on....

From high in the North Stand the pen looked spot on though. HRK got a yard on the defenders and the only thing that was going to happen was they would bring him down.


This is pretty much it.

He was poor throughout but consistent for both teams (imho). The penalty was spot on, so to speak.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Barry the bird boggler » 10 Feb 2010 10:31

At least he got the one decision that really mattered all night spot on!

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by greenbloodedgirl » 10 Feb 2010 11:20

The only difference between us was our players stayed on their feet..yours didn't. We didn't get half as much as we should have, and I just wish our players had gone down in the box when they were so much as clipped..though we probably still wouldn't have given it..

Pathetic refereeing in a crucial match.
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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by total_biscuit » 10 Feb 2010 11:30

greenbloodedgirl The only difference between us was our players stayed on there feet..yours didn't. We didn't get half as much as we should have, and I just wish our players had gone down in the box when they were so much as clipped..though we probably still wouldn't have given it..

Pathetic refereeing in a crucial match.


It's difficult to stay on your feet when your running flat out and a bloke in a green shirt sticks his foot out to trip you up. Lost count of the number of times this happened ...

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by greenbloodedgirl » 10 Feb 2010 11:58

total_biscuit
greenbloodedgirl The only difference between us was our players stayed on there feet..yours didn't. We didn't get half as much as we should have, and I just wish our players had gone down in the box when they were so much as clipped..though we probably still wouldn't have given it..

Pathetic refereeing in a crucial match.


It's difficult to stay on your feet when your running flat out and a bloke in a green shirt sticks his foot out to trip you up. Lost count of the number of times this happened ...

TB



Funny, our players had that but they didnt go down..even in your box. We got shoulder barged, and grabbed round the neck but still got nowt.

Either way I saw some shocking decisions go both ways, so whatever your viewpoint, they were rubbish!!

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by ZacNaloen » 10 Feb 2010 12:00

Everyone of Arnesens throws was a foul throw, the linesmen weren't even looking.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Terminal Boardom » 10 Feb 2010 13:41

fester_royal while my blue stripe tinted glasses are still on from last night i wont dare to question the pen, especially as ive yet to see it on replay.
but totally agreed about the game as a whole, this guy was absolutely awful! and that takes some doing in this league. these guys have to do several exams and assesments and this is the best that comes out the system?? are they just fast tracking younger refs to make up for the aged ones? :roll:


And how many people whinged like buggery about the pen Donny got :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I think we would have seen a better performance had Bonnie Langford been the ref.

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by ZacNaloen » 10 Feb 2010 13:44

Are you my dad?

He said that last night!


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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by Terminal Boardom » 10 Feb 2010 13:49

Sun Tzu Hard to criticise the lino on the West touchline bu tth eone on the East was poor and the ref was generally hopeless.

The foul on Long which led to Church's goal being 'disallowed' was simply an inexcusable error. How Church could have been given off side following Long flicking the ball through as he was chopped down I simply cannot understand. Two shocking corner awards (one each way) when attackers clearly were the last player to touch the ball. The list goes on....

From high in the North Stand the pen looked spot on though. HRK got a yard on the defenders and the only thing that was going to happen was they would bring him down.


Church was in an offside position when the ball was played forward. However, the referee has to decide what came first. Was it the foul or was it the pass? If it was the pass then the correct call is offside. If it was the foul, and in the process of the foul the ball was played forward, then the referee should have pulled play back and given us the free kick. I suspect that the referee chose the former. Further justification for tv replays if ever they were needed.

Greenblooded monster-girl does have a point about a number of the challenges. Had Zurab been playing against us we would have been screaming all sorts of abuse for the nudges, holding etc. Poor night for the match officials all round. Sadly, they will think that they all had a good game :|

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Re: Refwatch: Reading v Plymouth Argyle

by handbags_harris » 10 Feb 2010 15:18

Terminal Boardom
Sun Tzu Hard to criticise the lino on the West touchline bu tth eone on the East was poor and the ref was generally hopeless.

The foul on Long which led to Church's goal being 'disallowed' was simply an inexcusable error. How Church could have been given off side following Long flicking the ball through as he was chopped down I simply cannot understand. Two shocking corner awards (one each way) when attackers clearly were the last player to touch the ball. The list goes on....

From high in the North Stand the pen looked spot on though. HRK got a yard on the defenders and the only thing that was going to happen was they would bring him down.


Church was in an offside position when the ball was played forward. However, the referee has to decide what came first. Was it the foul or was it the pass? If it was the pass then the correct call is offside. If it was the foul, and in the process of the foul the ball was played forward, then the referee should have pulled play back and given us the free kick. I suspect that the referee chose the former. Further justification for tv replays if ever they were needed.


Long was prostrate on the floor when he played the ball, having been cleanly wiped out by an Argyle defender. The decision was one that smacked of a referee out of his depth and panicked into making a decision, so he chose the easy option and gave the free kick in favour of argyle for offside, despite Long being wiped out well before he played the ball.

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